if PWCN nerfed APS... does PWI have to follow???
Lingzi - Lost City
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ok heres the problem, im sure PWI is scared of losing alot of players if they nerf 5aps. in my occassion, if im nerfed again, i will quit this game too...
and yea, PWCN is gonna nerf aps somehow....
so if PWI think that nerfing aps will decrease the fun in playing this game, then why dont they just DONT follow what PW CN does?
if PW CN nerfed demaon/sage spark in stealth... do u have to follow wat they do?
if PW CN nerfed APS, do u really have to follow what they do?
edited after reading the first 3 pages of comments
ok n yea i have read the 3 pages of comments and now here r my replies. i will always reply here so tat u can can find my replies easier.
the thing tat i was trying to point out is not really about 5 aps. its about 'why does when PW CN changed something in its game... PWI will have to follow?'
PW CN decided to take away sage/demon spark in stealth, n PWI followed tat.
now PW CN is gonna nerf aps, PWI seems like its gonna follow tat too.
just look at FW, its now on beta testing phase.... whats the reason for beta testing? to explore all the glitches n other negative aspects of the game.....
n yea, testers r doing their job n are reporting. but PWE dont seem to make any changes, why? becos FW CN hasnt changed anything yet. PWE will only make changes when its CN company make changes. tat totally takes away the reason of carrying out beta testing phases.
PWI n PW CN r played by different people, shouldnt changes n nerfs in game be different as well?
look at tat TW payment situation, PW CN gives everyone mirages kuz theres inflation there. and PWE knew that its gonna cause alot of arguments... but they mindlessly follow wat the PW CN does anyway. my question is.... if something from PW CN dont seem to work on PWI, why dont they just DONT FOLLOW it? its not necessary.
and yea, PWCN is gonna nerf aps somehow....
so if PWI think that nerfing aps will decrease the fun in playing this game, then why dont they just DONT follow what PW CN does?
if PW CN nerfed demaon/sage spark in stealth... do u have to follow wat they do?
if PW CN nerfed APS, do u really have to follow what they do?
edited after reading the first 3 pages of comments
ok n yea i have read the 3 pages of comments and now here r my replies. i will always reply here so tat u can can find my replies easier.
the thing tat i was trying to point out is not really about 5 aps. its about 'why does when PW CN changed something in its game... PWI will have to follow?'
PW CN decided to take away sage/demon spark in stealth, n PWI followed tat.
now PW CN is gonna nerf aps, PWI seems like its gonna follow tat too.
just look at FW, its now on beta testing phase.... whats the reason for beta testing? to explore all the glitches n other negative aspects of the game.....
n yea, testers r doing their job n are reporting. but PWE dont seem to make any changes, why? becos FW CN hasnt changed anything yet. PWE will only make changes when its CN company make changes. tat totally takes away the reason of carrying out beta testing phases.
PWI n PW CN r played by different people, shouldnt changes n nerfs in game be different as well?
look at tat TW payment situation, PW CN gives everyone mirages kuz theres inflation there. and PWE knew that its gonna cause alot of arguments... but they mindlessly follow wat the PW CN does anyway. my question is.... if something from PW CN dont seem to work on PWI, why dont they just DONT FOLLOW it? its not necessary.
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The patches for PWI are made by the programmers of PW-CH, as you probably know.
The games are also owned by the same company, as you probably know.
So, if they believe that a certain change is for the good in one version of their game, it should be true of the other version, as the two versions are just about identical.
And besides, why are you so concerned about nerfing aps anyway? 5 APS affecting the game negatively is a fact. Claiming that it's not hurting the game would be ridiculous.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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Lingzi - Lost City wrote: »if PW CN nerfed demaon/sage spark in stealth... do u have to follow wat they do?
Kids these days have no concept of what a contract is and means.b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
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Lingzi - Lost City wrote: »ok heres the problem, im sure PWI is scared of losing alot of players if they nerf 5aps. in my occassion, if im nerfed again, i will quit this game too...
and yea, PWCN is gonna nerf aps somehow....
so if PWI think that nerfing aps will decrease the fun in playing this game, then why dont they just DONT follow what PW CN does?
if PW CN nerfed demaon/sage spark in stealth... do u have to follow wat they do?
if PW CN nerfed APS, do u really have to follow what they do?
Of course they never disappoint when disappointing us b:sin b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Lingzi - Lost City wrote: »so if PWI think that nerfing aps will decrease the fun in playing this game, then why dont they just DONT follow what PW CN does?
That would decrease the fun for aps classes but... as if they cared.
If aps gets nerfed there it will get nerfed here too. Although at best the nerf is just changing chi gain of normal hits or something.100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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Lingzi - Lost City wrote: »ok heres the problem, im sure PWI is scared of losing alot of players if they nerf 5aps. in my occassion, if im nerfed again, i will quit this game too...
and yea, PWCN is gonna nerf aps somehow....
so if PWI think that nerfing aps will decrease the fun in playing this game, then why dont they just DONT follow what PW CN does?
if PW CN nerfed demaon/sage spark in stealth... do u have to follow wat they do?
if PW CN nerfed APS, do u really have to follow what they do?
When a sin jump on you you dont have 1 sec to react or when a sin/BM can kill a barb in 2 sec?.... Remove 5 APS plz b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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How many times should this kind of thread be shown on pwi-forum? im getting tired of these QQ threads. aps is a part of the game =.=0
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Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary wrote: »How many times should this kind of thread be shown on pwi-forum? im getting tired of these QQ threads. aps is a part of the game =.=
Well, this topic is kinda lobbying for the opposite. Most of the APS related topics are about how it needs to be nerfed, whereas this is for the opposite.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary wrote: »How many times should this kind of thread be shown on pwi-forum? im getting tired of these QQ threads. aps is a part of the game =.=
fist barb? just askingb:laugh(\__/)
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arent u the sin that QQ'ed in the sin forums that he cant kill anyone when tripple sparked in stealth was nerfed? XD0
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Zoroaster - Harshlands wrote: »fist barb? just askingb:laugh
He is.
As it said in another thread, there was an interview with a person from PW-CN about the Genesis expansion, them stating that 5aps will be nerfed so they are a bit less effective, but wont lose their overall aps.0 -
Likely because you'll find a reason to QQ anyways, therefore, who cares about pleasing you?MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »Of course they never disappoint when disappointing us b:sin b:chuckle0 -
Lingzi - Lost City wrote: »ok heres the problem, im sure PWI is scared of losing alot of players if they nerf 5aps. in my occassion, if im nerfed again, i will quit this game too...
and yea, PWCN is gonna nerf aps somehow....
so if PWI think that nerfing aps will decrease the fun in playing this game, then why dont they just DONT follow what PW CN does?
if PW CN nerfed demaon/sage spark in stealth... do u have to follow wat they do?
if PW CN nerfed APS, do u really have to follow what they do?
You will leave and another players come back. Me for example.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Likely because you'll find a reason to QQ anyways, therefore, who cares about pleasing you?
Oh sorry my post seem accidentally summoning you, but i am not joining the wars anymore. b:chuckle
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Has anyone provided any proof that CN is nerfing APS or is it still just rumormill sputtering about with random vague speculation?Take the time to look for your answer before you post like an idiot.
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Allisandre - Sanctuary wrote: »Has anyone provided any proof that CN is nerfing APS or is it still just rumormill sputtering about with random vague speculation?
I'm too lazy to go try and find it, but I do remember reading, like he said, about them saying in an interview that aps won't be nerfed, just that they will be "less effective" in some of the new content.[SIGPIC]http://i53.tinypic.com/k9ymnq.gif[/SIGPIC]
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the hell with nerfin the aps, i dont even have the aps and im looking forward to get 5.0 or atleast 4 and if they nerf apps then **** this game.
Everyone who is still working on achieving 4 or 5 aps has something to look forward to, they want to have fun as much as the other full interval geared people are having, and if they nerf the aps, whats the point with even getting interval gears that the people who doesnt have full interval gear is trying to achieve?, it would be a waste of money as well.
pssht, dont nerf the apps, just fix that magic classes can hit mobs and bosses alot harder but not players, so it doesnt **** up the pvp lol.
Alot of people will probably QQ and say, "like 5 aps people doesnt kill everyone in 2 sec" bah, they still have to run all the way to you, by then a wizzie can 1 or 2 shot a bm lmao come on get over it.0 -
The big problem I can imagine, with 4aps is that the game becomes very lag sensitive, for a lot of motivated people
But assassins will still have permaspark, even with lag -- they just will not be able to macro it using in-game macros -- they will instead have to use something like a keyboard with a builtin timer on its own macros. (And, no, I do not know where to find them, but they are certainly possible to make, for anyone with access to the right kind of college or industrial lab.)0 -
Well, to sum it up, PWCN dictates what happens to PWI, just like how they'll make fist/claws BM class only. Psshh!! as if that'll hurt anyone, oh wait...●Barb - The "natural" leader. Cool and collected, slow to anger, and typically jovial. Swift to act when friends' lives are in danger, and prepared to lay down his life if the situation calls for it.
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ZoanoAce - Lost City wrote: »Well, to sum it up, PWCN dictates what happens to PWI, just like how they'll make fist/claws BM class only. Psshh!! as if that'll hurt anyone, oh wait...
I hope your sentence "as if that will hurt anyone" didn't mean you believe that fists are becoming BM-only weapon.
As that is not going to happen. There was this picture taken from CN and it seems to show that fists and claws will be restricted to all classes except Earthguards.100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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Yes I did mean what I typed, and my source is that very same picture. Even though I didnt translate it or know any Chinese, why bar the new race only from fist? o_OKupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »I hope your sentence "as if that will hurt anyone" didn't mean you believe that fists are becoming BM-only weapon.
As that is not going to happen. There was this picture taken from CN and it seems to show that fists and claws will be restricted to all classes except Earthguards.
Edit: Unless they are barred from all other melee weapons, besides swords, then that's a different story.●Barb - The "natural" leader. Cool and collected, slow to anger, and typically jovial. Swift to act when friends' lives are in danger, and prepared to lay down his life if the situation calls for it.
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Lingzi - Lost City wrote: »ok heres the problem, im sure PWI is scared of losing alot of players if they nerf 5aps. in my occassion, if im nerfed again, i will quit this game too...
and yea, PWCN is gonna nerf aps somehow....
so if PWI think that nerfing aps will decrease the fun in playing this game, then why dont they just DONT follow what PW CN does?
if PW CN nerfed demaon/sage spark in stealth... do u have to follow wat they do?
if PW CN nerfed APS, do u really have to follow what they do?
PWE doesn't have to follow everything PWCN implements. PWE did not reset the map for TW when the Tideborn expansion came out, unlike the other countries. There are no stamps of darkness past FB59.[In a distorted place and time][The knife that stabbed me in the back grants me wings]
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ZoanoAce - Lost City wrote: »Yes I did mean what I typed, and my source is that very same picture. Even though I didnt translate it or know any Chinese, why bar the new race only from fist? o_O
Edit: Unless they are barred from all other melee weapons, besides swords, then that's a different story.
I do not understand a word of chinese, but it's not hard to check the class names in chinese and then read which ones are included and which ones aren't...100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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True, but it still bugs me a tad. Just have to wait for frankie's updates. ^^Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »I do not understand a word of chinese, but it's not hard to check the class names in chinese and then read which ones are included and which ones aren't...●Barb - The "natural" leader. Cool and collected, slow to anger, and typically jovial. Swift to act when friends' lives are in danger, and prepared to lay down his life if the situation calls for it.
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Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »The big problem I can imagine, with 4aps is that the game becomes very lag sensitive, for a lot of motivated people
But assassins will still have permaspark, even with lag -- they just will not be able to macro it using in-game macros -- they will instead have to use something like a keyboard with a builtin timer on its own macros. (And, no, I do not know where to find them, but they are certainly possible to make, for anyone with access to the right kind of college or industrial lab.)
o.o 5aps lags more than 4aps
u can macro with 4aps O.o[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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ok i have read all the comments and i will reply this on my edited first post.0
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Because PWE is like a retailer? They don't actually write the codes for the game but gets file from PW CN, so w/e happens there regarding to game mechanics will happen here.Lingzi - Lost City wrote: »
the thing tat i was trying to point out is not really about 5 aps. its about 'why does when PW CN changed something in its game... PWI will have to follow?'0 -
not like it will be a direct nerf. probaly gonna be a indirect one. for example; new bosses to get/farm for new high end gear will have some buff to decrease APS by a big percentage or a reflect buff or something. i am willing to bet that is whats going to happen.
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If they nerf it, most effective change would be to decrease the chi you gain per hit. Now it's 5 chi per hit, but maybe they will lower it to 4 or 3 to prevent permaspark. They said they'd nerf it without touching the actual aps.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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