An Early GM Response to the TW Changes

where is update 3? b:angry

lol you people just dont get it. its not because there are fake bid issues or anything else. they are handed these updates from devs in china packed and ready to go there is nothing they can do about this issue as their too cheap to pay for their own devs to do something about it even after the $2 million + per month their making off of packs. ive seen this time and time again with games associated with china or mylasian versions. ikncluding the game i came here from Knight Online wich is over ran with gold farmers they claim their trying to do something about, but yet wotn devote the time to have a gm online checking people. so with that said if you want to stop fake bids, devote your time to be on during bidding (and we know you wont) or make a requisite for the amount and or lvl of players in the guild before they can bid. but enough with all this **** about give it time as we all know time does nothing but worsen the situation as you soak in another $60 million off of the packs you so graciously bring back by popular demand. oh and btw who demands this? the people you give no shot at staying competetive because every noob is running around with a +12 weapon and +10 nirvana gear because their mommy and daddy have a good job? wake up pwi your game is heading for its demise..

I'm training to get to endgame to have FUN
I plan on doing TW for FUN
Sure there are other benefits, but did we all forget the FUN?

That's my TW point of view atleast, for some reason people think the game owes them something for the money they spend, well guess what...
No one owes you anything! It is afterall, your choice to play and your choice to spend if that's what you do

Personally i'm still a very happy player of PWI, I have no problems, infact since TW pay went, it got better! I CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD THINGS! b:pleased

Now dont get me wrong, I do cash shop, not a heavy Cash shopper but I still do.
But gold prices before hand? They were just plain stupid, 3xxK is a good price compared to 4 - 500k+ (At least on RT) But this is now giving the average player an actualy chance at doing something in the game!
Thats just IMO b:bye

They don't care, TW is dead (at least on Harshlands).

Gold price is still the same but then everyone knew it wouldn't drop, gold price has f all to do with the money from TW that was just a poor excuse.

That's why they changed the TT boss to wreck players (use more charms) since no one TWs anymore for charm sales.

Chovan - Harshlands wrote: »

Gold price is still the same but then everyone knew it wouldn't drop, gold price has f all to do with the money from TW that was just a poor excuse.

Gold price dropped by about 150K on RT, after the first couple of weeks of the new TW system, but RT is a PvE server, HL is a PvP, possible that would have an effect

Any GM can show the results of TW changes? Please...

MrCherry - Raging Tide wrote: »

Gold price dropped by about 150K on RT, after the first couple of weeks of the new TW system, but RT is a PvE server, HL is a PvP, possible that would have an effect

Gold Dropped because they put Coral Packs on sale. Tiger/Sunshine/Anni packs had a 1.72% chance on ToBL, Coral packs only have a 0.72% chance. Players already know this. Historically, ALL times (has happened several times already) whenever Coral Packs were the Pack of the month, gold prices reduced from around 450-500k down to about 350k. Thats happened each and every time Coral Packs were the Packs on sale. THAT is why gold reduced, had NOTHING to do with TW moneys. However i do believe PWE knew this and would try to pass it off as their TW fix working under a fallacy of truth.

Let me ask this? Now that Tiger Packs have come on sale, whats happened to the price of gold? Went right back up didnt it?

Chovan - Harshlands wrote: »

It just amazes me PWI is so powerless to have any input into what PWE do, either that or PWI truly doesn't give a damn about it's players.

I think you mean PWE is powerless to have any input on what PW-Beijing does. PWI is just the game. PWE is the U.S. based company which hosts the localized version, but handles nothing other than translation & boutique. PW-Beijing is the mother company in China which programs the game for both PWI (unlocalized) & PW-CN.

Any official response yet? the month is up b:surrender

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

People buying less gold should make the prices rise.

The cash shoppers source of money is unaffected directly by all the farming nerfs. They still charge zen & sell it for game coin. Its the free players who are vanishing and/or making less coin. I think what was meant was less people in game buying gold from gold sellers. That would make prices drop. Except its at the cost of losing a share of the free player base, which is not a good thing.

Chovan - Harshlands wrote: »

I don't give a damn about the price of gold or the economy the fact is they destroyed a huge enjoyable part of the game.

Games should be designed to have fun in them, TW WAS fun now it's 150% totally pointless.

No one wants to do it anymore including all the smaller guilds who now have a chance at this failed system.

It just amazes me PWI is so powerless to have any input into what PWE do, either that or PWI truly doesn't give a damn about it's players.

Now I should probably be keeping my mouth shut because I have no TW EXP... But... I really don't mind the thought of these changes in TW... I think even you've missed the point that you began to yourself point out. Do you know how long I played (PvE'd) not knowing anything about TW. When I was totally new to this game I thought the only benny of TW was 'bragging rights', basically, to be able to say your faction/the faction you are in owns land. Then I learned of the main perks being your 10 MIL PER week PER land, PLUS free teleporting :! As soon as I found that out that made it quite obvious to me how a single faction could become very rich and powerful and to at least some extent corrupt. So as you said

Games should be designed to have fun in them

and I agree with that statement, very much so. However you then said

TW WAS fun now it's 150% totally pointless

... I MUST ask, WHY??? Yes, they changed the reward for winning, but to my knowledge they have not changed any other aspect, including mechanics of how they actually happen or what, or how, you do what you do in them... So how exactly DOES that change the fact that it 'was' fun and now no longer is??? Just because the faction no longer earns redonkerous amonuts of coin ??? and so, how exactly is that fair to all the people that PvE and or cash shop to get all their in-game 'income'... Another example/thing: I have always been the player that NEVER passes up coin on the ground, EVER. I have always wondered why people ALWAYS leave coin sitting behind. (& Trust me I have heard the BS 'rumors' that in dungeons it effects monster/boss drop rates and a bunch of other junk.) But after I found out about the actual 'perks' of TW it all made sense to me. Why WOULD someone care about the 36 coins a monster drops if they are in a faction that is earning 10 MIL PER land PER week ! So now... I think... Instead of QQing about these changes, maybe you guys should actually start picking up those 36 coins that, that monster just dropped, and so on...

I guess my main point is:

There is SO much more to this game than just TW, why don't you guys start doing some PvE, 1v1 PvP, crafting, mining / farming, running a shop... There are many OTHER ways to EARN your coin ! There are SO many other aspects of the game that are (or can be) fun !

Sparc - Harshlands wrote: »

I guess my main point is:

There is SO much more to this game than just TW, why don't you guys start doing some PvE, 1v1 PvP, crafting, mining / farming, running a shop... There are many OTHER ways to EARN your coin ! There are SO many other aspects of the game that are (or can be) fun !

Spend 4 hours grinding to gain 200k is not a good way to make coins, TT NOW is not a good way to make coin, farming 4 hours to gain 150k coin isn't a good way either.If people doesn't have coins to spend in shop, How this could be A GOOD way to make coins? People keeps leaving cause of lack of coins. My friends left cause of it, and soo I will leave too. And most important thing GM's even matter this topic. 1 month ran away. i'm not seeing any solutions.

Sorry lol feelings crowed me <.< Anyway.

do you read?

Sparc - Harshlands wrote: »

I was only speaking specifically on the TW issue. I certainly DO agree with the changes in TW for my above reasons. This does not mean I agree or like all changes made that effect coinage...

There is SO much more to this game than just TW, why don't you guys start doing some PvE, 1v1 PvP, crafting, mining / farming, running a shop... There are many OTHER ways to EARN your coin ! There are SO many other aspects of the game that are (or can be) fun !


i just read this ^
i have to read everything he says? lol

Sparc - Harshlands wrote: »

There is SO much more to this game than just TW, why don't you guys start doing some PvE, 1v1 PvP, crafting, mining / farming, running a shop... There are many OTHER ways to EARN your coin ! There are SO many other aspects of the game that are (or can be) fun !

also this ^
PvP outside of safe zone is nothing compared to TW.
And no i don't wanna be afk being a cat shop all day b:surrender