My "Age" ranting...

Yes, I am a parent, and I am 37 year old. My daughter is only 5 years old and autistic so she doesn't play that game for sure hahaha

But still, most of the time I have WC off and sometimes Faction off because of some of the comments...

I don't see the reason of racial jokes, it shows no respect.
I don't see the reason to use some sex talking , especially when it involves things like abuse or r.a.p.e or stuff like that.... some people been abused in the past, and just to hear the word still makes them feel umcorfortable (sorry english ain't my language not sure if it's written like that)

Yes it's a game, I understand.. but how I see WC or FC is like this: If you would be in front of a huge crowd, would you tell these things out loud in the microphone? And if yes you would say them... how do you think people would respond to those things? Am sure many if not most would find something offended in whatever would been said.

You want to insult somebody or is pissed about something.. there's PM for it.. or Private chat rooms, or Squad... or just go on a rampage and kill everything you see in PVP... all the world don't have to know it.....

Anyway.. that's my point of view.. blast me now if you want... but do it in PM.... so all the world don't have to know it b:chuckle

BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear wrote: »

if u wanna protect ur children, don't let them play that game. thats it

this is correct ^^

I may be 19, but i've seen and understood both points of the arguement.

My conclusion?

I side with this.

Parents, you can try and protect your children all you like but you will have to face up to the fact that one day, you can protect them no longer. You can dissaprove and scowl, place your hands over their eyes and place curfews and restrictions. One day, your children will grow up and they will realise they are now in control of what they see, say and do.

No matter how hard you try, especially on a game with graphics which are quite obviously of a mature nature, it's futile to attempt to protect them from words of sexual/harassing/cursing/racist/religist nature. Other people play the same game as you and these other people are not like you. They have opinions that are different to yours.

You can ask them to respect you in regards to your needs of PG13, but will you respect them? You know it isn't a one way street. I find common sense to be such a rarity these days, it really is astounding. If you do not wish for your child or yourself to be exposed to such things, do not play this game.

Wake up and face reality, you cannot sheild yourself and children forever. You cannot expect people to instantly change into someone who shares the same values and morals as yourself. They may have named it "Perfect World", but they didn't specify who's Perfect World it was. It's just marketing. Hey, look! A perfect world! Awesome!

My advice? Do one of the following.

1. One of the greatest lessons i've learnt (and should be learnt by all) is that the world couldn't really give a cow who you are, whether you're rich or poor, what your race is, what religion you belong to and what your values you are. It dosen't owe you anything. It expects you to toughen up and grow some.. you know what

2. Place your child in a bubble. Paint the bubble black and poke a few holes in behind their head to allow an oxygen flow. Be sure to make two small sliding doors where their face is. One the height and width of their eyes and one the height and width of their mouth.

Do not allow them anywhere within the vacinity of a school, computer, television, sterio, iPod, friends, neighbours, newspaper.. well anything that involves the outside world. Ensure you homeschool them and that they are within your walls 24/7.

This method may however result in such side effects as; Your child turning 16 and realising he has independance. Popping the bubble, telling you where to shove it, leaving home and never talking to you again.

Moral of the story: Find a god fearing guild/community and stick with them. Do not talk to any outsiders.
I've been in an "adult" guild where we tried, and failed to keep a clean and respectful community.
I then went and found a mature guild with people my age. I've never felt more at home.
Mature = M 16+.
Adult= PG 10-.

Simple answer to a simple question.

If they are asking you in faction to keep it pg-13 you keep it pg-13. Doesn't matter the reason why. Its irrelevant.

There is something called respect. Respect of yourself. Respect towards your fellow "man". All you siding with its okay blah blah blah, show a blatant tendency towards disrespecting others. Having a selfish outlook cause you want it/think its okay.

If you want to have those XXX conversations take it to a chat room; pm's or a private room in vent.

I am not against such talk. I've been in a faction that would make most people blush; chuckle; and make their jaws drop. Even I would be taken back every once in awhile.

I am not for such talk. My current faction we do not get XXX yes their are sly jokes and innuendo but at no point is any line crossed. And when it starts to get close PM's are sent to those individuals letting them know its getting a bit close to um....well.... crossing the line.

We as adults have the ability to control what we say and what we allow to happen around us(to an extent).

As for the OPs reference to half-naked women and monster killing....its no worse then whats on Saturday morning Cartoons. The difference is the actually adult content we allow to be typed and seen. Are we protecting kids...sure...are we protecting ourselves and our fellow players yes.

If you don't like the faction your in because you can't talk as freely as you wish. Then its time to probably move on.

You know, if you don't want your kids mimicing this sort of thing GET OFF YOUR LAZY BUTTS AND GET THEM OFF THE GAME!!!

For the love of ****, be a parent and control what your kids do!

drjiggle wrote: »

If you're a vegetarian, don't eat at Ruth's Chris Steak House. If you're Jewish, don't go to a Catholic church and get upset about what they're telling you. If people in your faction are asking you to regulate your speech in a way you aren't comfortable with, then either you or they are in the wrong faction. Someone needs to go. It might be you.

Point is, you have some control over this situation. If you don't like it, fix it.

This ^^

If you can't respect your faction mates wish to not hear vulgairties, then you may just need to move to a new faction. Your faction mates have asked that you tone down your speech. It shouldn't be hard not to type cussing, dirty jokes, racist jokes, etc.
I have heard all the arguments of ' hey this kind of stuff happens everywhere! You can't shelter your children!', but maybe you are missing the point here. You may be offending your faction mates, and not that they are trying to 'shelter the children'.

MissAnthrope - Sanctuary wrote: »

its called maturity... i think that's what the adults were driving at.

Maturity is for anti-lulz-bringers.

Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You know, if you don't want your kids mimicing this sort of thing GET OFF YOUR LAZY BUTTS AND GET THEM OFF THE GAME!!!

For the love of ****, be a parent and control what your kids do!

Its not just about kids though.

Im far from being a kid and I dont want to listen to some people with a "immature" mentality swear more than a sailor with Tourette's syndrome, or make sexist/racist comments that they wouldnt have the nerve to say in the RL.

I have no problem with people swearing/cussing (for you Yanks) if it fits the context of what they are talking about, but swearing just for swearings sake makes you look like an ignorant fool.

Which is why my Fac has rules.. Dont like them leave.... Stay and want to show little respect to other members...Well thats what the kick button was made for.

Panthalassa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You know, if you don't want your kids mimicing this sort of thing GET OFF YOUR LAZY BUTTS AND GET THEM OFF THE GAME!!!

For the love of ****, be a parent and control what your kids do!

b:cuteyes why dotn u just throw us under a rock while ur at it?

Keeping the language clean is one thing. I can keep my language perfectly pristine, online. However, we all have bad days and bad moments. Like when you are level 29 and you have to go to Heaven's Tear to talk to so and so. And someone offers you a lift, but drops you on Swordtamer. Are you going to politely thank the person for the lift? Not likely.

There are varying degrees of foul language that can drop from your lips in anger. Get over it. If you're a parent, tell your child that, for the next five minutes, they won't get into any trouble for dirty words. Then, ask them what they know. I'll lay odds on them knowing some you've never heard of.

As for the ones that use f*** as a punctuation, it's a force of habit. While it isn't the best habit, it was not something they were corrected on, earlier in life. There is a word filter. It's a decent one, but it can't filter every possible obscenity, in every possible language, in every possible way of spelling. If you don't like the way your faction mates speak, don't talk to them or just leave.

If you want your children to play the game, but don't want them to learn a single bad word, take them to server that doesn't speak any language they will ever understand.

I'm a 25 year old gamer, married to a 29 year old gamer. Enjoy this post.

Wrathfulsynn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm a 25 year old gamer, married to a 29 year old gamer. Enjoy this post.

You give hope to every gamer girl looking for love. b:cute

Or at least me. b:surrender

i might be only 16

but honestly i hate people who bother you with their kids
like this veno who was like afk in 1 off my TT squads cause she said hey i gotta take care off my kid so she was basicly doing nothing so i asked her do something or leave please you are only slowing this TT down
then she went all spamming me you know what its like to have a kid and at all then i said no i dont have a kid but i wouldnt bother others with it if i did
lets just say it didnt end to well and i should have shut my mouth a bit more i guess but the moral off this is dont bother others with your kid

added that my parents dont play online games so they dont really know what im doing here anyway

and to be honest i did got in stituatons that arent to proper for the average kid but well i know how to deall with it and accept it as a fact the people i meet here arent gonna babysit for me not that i need it or want it

I used to be in RQ wasnt my first faction but w/e. Now, most of the people in RQ knew each other from different games so they would joke around, talk racists stuff, w/e. At first I was shocked and couldn't believe what they were saying but since they knew most of each other then it was okay. The only problems came up, when new people would join and then acted offended over everthing which is understandable, but then you can easily leave. Its not like there is only 1 guild for the whole server. If your friends want to stay in that guild, fine, make new ones in a new guild. Don't drag everyone down by saying oh this offends me, people need to grow up etc. If there are people in your guild that are weird or 'too sexual', chances are, other people notice it too. Stop putting yourself so high and mighty and so stuck up..let loose every once in a while, but not completely .If you dont like something, ignore it or gc for a while, if it happens too often then leave.

About the parent thing, if you let your child play on an MMO, heck even if you let your child surf the web, you will know that they will talk to a multitude of diverse people. This is a person opinion, but dont insult your children if they are above the age of 14 by having them being monitored and stuff. If they come across some pedo online, chance's are your kid will find them creepy...I know I did when I was younger, and if they dont, then you need to take them to a therapist or have a family talk about it. But, your kid is not stupid, I hope they have a good head on them, and if they dont, they shouldnt be playing a MMO. And if you play with your kids on this game, dont breathe down their neck. Sure run HH and instances or lvl together, but dont restrict them to one guild or say dont do this etc.

XanZerstorer - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I don't know, but even parents with kids can play MMOs... as long as the kids are priority. I was in a faction with a lot of adults with kids (I'm kid-less myself) and I can understand when parents have to go AFK to take care of a sick kid, of one that woke up 'cause of nightmares, and so on. And I can't say the ones I knew bothered us with kids.

However, if she was constantly AFK, her priority should have been to be with her kid IMO. Especially young kids and babies... I've heard of (not know, heard of) cases of parents who would at one another to "shut their kid up" because he was crying and it was bothering whichever was at the computer, think it was the father...

RL > Games. Take care of your kids.

yes she was constantly afk and it was a young kid
but my point was if you must take care off a kid dont bother others with it a quick afk is something else but this would continue the entire TT

When everyone in the faction is over 18 years of age, I can let a few things slip. Like why we are suddenly both afk, for "a shower". Am I going into explicit details? No. Just letting them know it might be an hour or two before we get back. Sometimes, "brb" doesn't cut it and they want to know what I am leaving to do.

If you have something that is seriously important and might interrupt at any moment, don't sign up for a TT. A baby, for example. They need to be fed and watched and changed and all kinds of other time consuming and inconvenient things. Babysitting does not mean PWI time. Just PWI money.

Forcing your rules on someone is not the best way to handle things. Would I, personally, try to tone things down, when I know that a specific person or group of people might get truly offended? Yes. Do I expect my wife not to call out a failtard when she sees one? No.

When all else fails, for me, I use less offense words. They aren't completely rude, but the point gets across. Images help, too.

Enjoy this post. d=(^_^)=b