Arcane/Robe Veno guide

AyraVeno - Harshlands wrote: »

i have a question though.....?how do u lvl this venomancers stats like attribute points to wear the armor and weapons needed im doing full mageb:pleased

Page one of this thread.... you really should read the sticky thread before asking questions already answered....

Section 3, labeled..... STATS
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=234672

FearTheMagic - Lost City wrote: »

My Veno reached lv 77 (Arcane). It has now 66 vit, 55 str & 297magic.
My question is: should i keep putting pts into str or not? Since i have enough str for weps

Since you are arcane, you don't need any more str than is required for your equipment. Your str is high enough to use level 90 gear right now.

That or more Vit, that's totally up to you.

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Edit: Wow, the genie changes nuke those suggestions.

About heavy build and soloing i really have no problem. At level 90 i easily solo Blackhole Devourer unbuffed. My magic is 277 with a lvl 89 requiem blade. i Use a full set of tt90 HA with tt80 HA sleeves tho for the stat bonus.

I went from LA to HA at lvl 90 coz LA doesnt really seem worth it to me. I used P def jewelry and LA armor now i use M def jewelry with HA, which gives same M def and alot more P def. I have 7500 p def (16k in fox and 23k fully buffed from cleric and BM) 4500k m def and 6300 hp (with 3 pts base vit). HA refines more hp than LA and a lot more than Arcane to easy make up for any spare pts arcane users put into vit. It all depends tho on how much u refine ur gear.

Fox dmg is ok in melee and ur survivability is very high with some nice magic defense jewelry and some m def shards and hp shards in ur gear. At lvl 92 if u go sage u will have a 200% equipment bonus to p atk which will make u do similar dmg in melee over time as u would with magic. And u can outdamage ur nix also if u wanna tank and easily survive 2-3 mobs at the time using only leech atk to keep ur hp max (no pots/charms).

This build makes ur char more flexible in my oppinion others may disagree. If u go heavy u can still use magic. Granted u will have 270+ magic as heavy vs 400+ as most arcanes have. Meaning ur nukes will do 20-30% less dmg on spams and less maybe 15-20% less on lucky, noxious and ironwood (since they are more weapon dmg or fixed dmg based). This is ofc all based on ur gear and refine, this is compared with my gf who is arcane full int with ~+5 gear and +6 weapon like me. Yes u will have less mp too but venos can easily keep mp up with boost/grace swap mp/hp combos. I only use pots for soloing bosses if i don't have time to use boost/grace.

An arcane veno with full int will only really use fox mode as support. Like debuffs or if u cant avoid a physical aoe while healing ur pet to take less dmg. Heavy veno has 200% more pdef, 200%+ more accuracy and 100-200% more p atk if u go sage which is the better choice unless u are magic only.

So heavy is not at all bad it's just a matter of what u want from ur char. Arcane is superior in magic but fairly useless in fox. Heavy is ok in magic and superior in fox.

The downside with heavy is that u have to worry a lot more about what gear to use than arcane. U need to find gear with + attributes as u pretty much need 6 attribute pts pr lvl if u want to use equal lvl weapon and armor. Roughly 3 mag/0.5 dex/2.5 str pr lvl. And u need to swap atleast 1 ring when u swap between fox/human to make the best of it. U can use rank ring in other slot if u dont wanna swap 2 rings.
As arcane u need 3 mag/0.5 str pr lvl pretty much and then have 1.5 free pts to use for whatever u like, and u can then use whatever gear is within ur lvl range.

So the upside with arcane is that its easier to to find gear, easier to distribute attributes and u will spike magic dmg and have great pet heals making pve easy.

The upside with heavy is that ur gear will provide better defense.

tt90 HA Chest 1532 p def / 655 m def
tt90 Arcane chest 171 p def / 1530 m def

So u will end up with better magic defense in heavy than physical defense in arcane. Also heavy refines better hp. Arcane gives 188 hp at +6 (tt90) and HA gives 302 hp at +6. Thats the same as 10 pts in vit pr armor part. Also with 227 str u can easily wear hp helmet equal to ur lvl to give a nice hp boost.
Also u get a massive boost from the 150% p def increase from fox form compared to other armor types.

Just to clarify before flaming of any kind starts. This was not in any way meant to say heavy was better than arcane or the other way around. This was just to promote heavy as a viable option also. Many young venos think that if u go heavy u must give up using magic and solo tt and stuff like that and run around foxing everything to death tanking urself.

My advise is stay arcane or go heavy... LA leaves u in the middle without excelling in anything except very high accuracy and 2-3% better crit rate than heavy and being easier to equip. I know its very hard to find gear to equip a HA veno when u lvl fast and therefore many starts out LA like me. This was meant as an endgame comment.

As arcane u can put pts in vitality to begin with since refining low lvl gear is expensive compared to gain and then respec ur vit into magic when u get some great gear to make up for the hp lost.

okey i think i messed up my veno from level 1 ive been doing 9 mage 1 str every 2 levels is this good or bad?

Awesome, awesome guide! b:thanks

this was sooooooo helpful!

thanks!! b:pleased

Sorry for the double post! This is probably somewhere in a forum but i haven't the time to search at the moment. I heard that venomancers are great at making money, im curious as to how this is done. How is grinding with a venomancer any different than grinding with any other class? Thank you in advance!

Hm, if i get a lot of armor for my physical defense, won't that weaken my magic attack, and also force me to put more points into strength, leaving less for my magic? And by robes, do you mean like a cape?

Oo i see. But as long as i dont play PvP, and only PvE for now, lousy defense shouldnt really matter, as long as i have a good tanking pet, right? And also, should i prioritize hp regen or mana regen? Even if i put a majority of my points into magic, will future spells cost too much mana for me?

Oh alright. Cool thanks for the help xD. So i'll do this - Just get enough strength to wear my accessories, that should be physical defense. The rest of my points will go into Mag and Vit, and none to dexterity. As for armour and weapons, you want me to go arcane robes and swords?

I like this forum/game. People are really helpful. Thanks a lot

Yukire - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Also, before starting the game, i heard that not only are venomancers very cheap,

they are great at making money, can anybody help me with this?

I read the moneymaking guide, but i dont understand how grinding with a venomancer is different than grinding with any other class.

Also, when i grind, does my pet absorb half the exp?

They are cheap in long term costs, ie: repairs. Now they are expensive when you consider getting a herc/nix/tome/legendary foods but without that they are very cheap and easier to make money with because they rarely get hit so they have low repair costs and they solo easy as they always have a tank/dd and can support/dd with their pet. It's like having a group all the time. The difference is, your group member doesn't need equipment, or potions, or repairs. it just needs a bit of food every 5 mins and if you have a tome then it doesn't need any food unless it dies.

You make money the same as everyone else. The only difference is soloing TT with a herc but this is getting less and less profittable.

No it doesn't take any of your xp it just xp on its own and won't level past your current level.