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where u see mee QQ, idk.
must player say at lvl 90+ nix dont hurt much anymore if u have decent gear idk if its true.
and i still think if u spend 200$ on ur armos u doing fine and can win against nix
lol no they dont...maybe if they're heavy armor users
and how much do you really know about armor costs past lvl 90?0 -
Forp - Heavens Tear wrote: »$200 in gears is not equal to a phoenix. the $200 phoenix is equilivant to well over $1000 usd on a normal character, level 90+.
friend has light hh90 +11 top and bottom, +9 hat, boots, sleeves. +5 patk rings, +10 pdef accessories, +11 hh90 xbow.
he does less dps than a level 94 phoenix and still dies in seconds to 1.
I call BS. Less dps than a phoenix with +11 xbow? I remember back during the oracle events where I try to compete with a faction mate with +10 tt80 bow for kills and he out damage me + my phoenix every time and I'm a pure mage veno. We were about 83 at the time maybe?
Phoenix doesn't hurt heavy armor users when they reach high level but pretty much all one or two shot robe users.0 -
I left FlyFF because of Nerfs. i cant stand little crybabys that complain about the overpower of a Nix. yes, I have one, so what? I dont PvP. but if they nerf the Nix, i still feel the burn, because I use one. just think about what you;re doing. Nix isnt the best defender, you can kill it before it kills you if you're smart. i mean hell, i could complain about the fact a BM has a 100% accuracy stun that lasts for something near 5 seconds, and say how the Veno having one that isnt 100%, or even lasts for 2 seconds unless its maxed(or Sage, which is 3, but still not 100%) or the fact a Barb gets so much HP per point of Vit, or the fact an Archer has such an enormous range, or the fact Wizzes and Clerics have double the spell power Venos do... no, i dont complain, I deal with it. I work around it. Phoenix doesnt need fixed, you need to think more.my name is SakuraJD
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blindeyesniper wrote: »I call BS. Less dps than a phoenix with +11 xbow? I remember back during the oracle events where I try to compete with a faction mate with +10 tt80 bow for kills and he out damage me + my phoenix every time and I'm a pure mage veno. We were about 83 at the time maybe?
Phoenix doesn't hurt heavy armor users when they reach high level but pretty much all one or two shot robe users.
Why do people keep confusing PVE with PVP? The +11 xbow with a 75% pvp damage reduction will do less damage than a pheonix with a glitched bleed skill.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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blindeyesniper wrote: »I call BS. Less dps than a phoenix with +11 xbow? I remember back during the oracle events where I try to compete with a faction mate with +10 tt80 bow for kills and he out damage me + my phoenix every time and I'm a pure mage veno. We were about 83 at the time maybe?
Phoenix doesn't hurt heavy armor users when they reach high level but pretty much all one or two shot robe users.
debuff + hell ironwood is more than enough to take down any class0 -
this argument is flawed in general. how often do you even see a noob under level 20 with a phoenix? even then its not that strong of a pet. fast forward to 89+, even with phoenix every class still out damages us, except maybe on world bosses and TT bosses (herc lol.) in the PVE spectrum. even in PVP, phoenix is no god, even with one i am still killed by skilled players unlike the whiners here. it is not some end game godly weapon avaliable to us, as it doesnt really give us any benefits except an even playing field in our 90s.The point is only ONE CLASS here can get an endgame item at lvl 1 for the cheap price 25-35 mil. No other class can, thats why its so extremely inbalanced at low lvls. Its like if archers or wiz would get grade 12 weapon +10 at lvl 1 for 35 mil. Or a blessing with +30 attack lvl from cs. They would be insanely OP to and everyone would complain.
this is wrong too. in a duel with tommygame in your own faction, his +8 blinding raidiance did 1800~ a hit, dont give me that bull ****. i still managed to win, but xbows do hurt, and you should know damn well they do. just imagine if that same bow was +11 >.>Why do people keep confusing PVE with PVP? The +11 xbow with a 75% pvp damage reduction will do less damage than a pheonix with a glitched bleed skill.0 -
forp, who is this friend of yours? no one in HT atm has that kinda of gear, id like to know who your talking about.
and bleed recieves NO PVP DAMAGE REDUCTION , what else is their to say?Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks
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Other classes can oneshot too. Nerf them now.0
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Stickygreen - Heavens Tear wrote: »forp, who is this friend of yours? no one in HT atm has that kinda of gear, id like to know who your talking about.
and bleed recieves NO PVP DAMAGE REDUCTION , what else is their to say?
really? i've seen some +11 magic weapons floating around for some time. well he's not on ht anyways. his name is ranqe on delphi.0 -
MentalEdge - Heavens Tear wrote: »Fact remains on the development side PWI are at the mercy of the devs in China,so aye qq'ers shaddafugup
Ok maybe you missed that there are devs in California, Not China. If there were our devs in China then one of the prereqs for any of the testers and programmers jobs here would be to speak Mandarin. It's not and oh look they are hiring more devs for their CA office. Like I said check your facts before you go spewing the falsified info to everyone.Spoons you will forever be missed in this community0 -
Piliener - Lost City wrote: »Ok maybe you missed that there are devs in California, Not China. If there were our devs in China then one of the prereqs for any of the testers and programmers jobs here would be to speak Mandarin. It's not and oh look they are hiring more devs for their CA office. Like I said check your facts before you go spewing the falsified info to everyone.
You mean the official website that talks about their subsidiary PWE and how they distribute the games developed by the Chinese main company in the North American market?
http://www.pwrd.com/html/en/cus_subsidiary.html
If you notice they distribute 2 games deveped in China, Ethersaga and PWI, and they also have a couple of other games already available or in the works.
If you look at their careers link
http://www.perfectworld.com/about/job
You will notice that they are hiring people to manage stuff, with the exception of the graphic designer, which would be needed to create the fashion and other re-skinning things as well as webpages etc.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »Fact: The devs work for PW-Bejing.
Fact: GMs work for PWE, they do not run PWE.
Fact: GMs are paid by PWE, and do not make anything off of Zen sales.
Fact: You fail at reading comprehension.
Well since you are a dev and GM in disguise and not just another forum troller I must consent to your all knowing abilities. Sure lets say the devs work for PW-Bejing and not PWE and sure lets say that PWE doesn't make money off zen sales which they pay their employees with. Also, while we are at it lets say I said anywhere that GM's do run PWE and lets also go with the fact that I can't comprehend your **** thinking pattern.
If we throw out all of this then yes you are correct. Since you are so aware of how everything works can you tell me then are you just another product of the No Child Left Behind Act?Spoons you will forever be missed in this community0 -
You really do fail at reading comprehension.0
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IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »You mean the official website that talks about their subsidiary PWE and how they distribute the games developed by the Chinese main company in the North American market?
http://www.pwrd.com/html/en/cus_subsidiary.html
If you notice they distribute 2 games deveped in China, Ethersaga and PWI, and they also have a couple of other games already available or in the works.
If you look at their careers link
http://www.perfectworld.com/about/job
You will notice that they are hiring people to manage stuff, with the exception of the graphic designer, which would be needed to create the fashion and other re-skinning things as well as webpages etc.
No, actually I was referring to the time before they went public vs now. You know that magical time...oh wait the way your talking you probably don't. Nevermind then keep spewing random info and learn the history and why our dev is different from their dev.
Also just to save space +1 to post count for Eunuch.Spoons you will forever be missed in this community0 -
my-en doesnt count, get someone like the LC players who splurge CS with their +12 ****, forp.
this is wrong, PWI is a subsidiary of PWE in china, the 'dev team' here is for working out bugs and glitches in our version, the 'dev team' in china designs the gameplay and everything else. we are at the mercy of china :P.No, actually I was referring to the time before they went public vs now. You know that magical time...oh wait the way your talking you probably don't. Nevermind then keep spewing random info and learn the history and why our dev is different from their dev.0 -
my en is an official server. it counts as far as i'm concerned. besides, it's just a comparison between a 92 archer and a 94 phoenix, don't need to be in a specific server to do that.0
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not here it doesnt, theyre two seperate entities, ones a licensed franchise at that :P0
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Piliener - Lost City wrote: »Ok maybe you missed that there are devs in California, Not China. If there were our devs in China then one of the prereqs for any of the testers and programmers jobs here would be to speak Mandarin. It's not and oh look they are hiring more devs for their CA office. Like I said check your facts before you go spewing the falsified info to everyone.
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No, actually I was referring to the time before they went public vs now. You know that magical time...oh wait the way your talking you probably don't. Nevermind then keep spewing random info and learn the history and why our dev is different from their dev.
Can you make up your mind?
You said on the first post "look they are hiring devs", now you are saying "long ago they were hiring devs".
Pick one.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
yes, even here, it counts. it's still pw, no matter where it is. arguing it is bringing you down to zoes level.0
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Piliener - Lost City wrote: »Well since you are a dev and GM in disguise and not just another forum troller I must consent to your all knowing abilities. Sure lets say the devs work for PW-Bejing and not PWE and sure lets say that PWE doesn't make money off zen sales which they pay their employees with. Also, while we are at it lets say I said anywhere that GM's do run PWE and lets also go with the fact that I can't comprehend your **** thinking pattern.
If we throw out all of this then yes you are correct. Since you are so aware of how everything works can you tell me then are you just another product of the No Child Left Behind Act?
you seriously do fail to comprehend anything dont you? your whole statement is full of mistakes in logic.Staring at the wall is much more rewarding than playing PW.0 -
Piliener - Lost City wrote: »Well since you are a dev and GM in disguise and not just another forum troller I must consent to your all knowing abilities. Sure lets say the devs work for PW-Bejing and not PWE and sure lets say that PWE doesn't make money off zen sales which they pay their employees with. Also, while we are at it lets say I said anywhere that GM's do run PWE and lets also go with the fact that I can't comprehend your **** thinking pattern.
If we throw out all of this then yes you are correct. Since you are so aware of how everything works can you tell me then are you just another product of the No Child Left Behind Act?
I'm not a dev or a GM. I just post my opinion on the forums. While I see and hear a lot, my abilites are far from all seeing and all knowing. I'll leave that for the flying spaghetti monster. Ok. How about we not suspend reality that much, ok? As already stated, GMs do not directly profit from the cash shop, and I never said that Zen sales are the only revenue generating avenue PWE had. Doesn't matter if you said anything about who runs PWE since you responded to me initially, and not the other way around. That's because you fail at reading comprehension.
You also fail at making a sentence that isn't complete gibberish.
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Actually OMG, the majority of your posts do tend to be you chipping away at grammer mistakes, a poor choice of wording and basically anything that lets you post without adding anything to the topic at hand. Also your sig is without a doubt the most annoying sight on the forums.Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.
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This thread is turning into a flamefest, please contribute to the conversation or I'll be forced to move this to.........*scary music* The Lower Depthsssssssss!
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Well you'd be a good person to help this thread like maybe answer the question,
Do you ever intend to bug the dev's to fix this or are you just gonna let EndGame PvPers quit as they find out their class is nothing when they get hit by Phoenix bleed(ie. Pandora-Lost City)?
The GM's announced that they are trying to use genies to fix them but that doesn't exactly work against a class which has an entire skill tree revolving around debuffs.
Seriously, fix this. Bug the Dev's, high level players have quit over this and will continue to unless the skill gets fixed.Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.
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Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »Well you'd be a good person to help this thread like maybe answer the question,
Do you ever intend to bug the dev's to fix this or are you just gonna let EndGame PvPers quit as they find out their class is nothing when they get hit by Phoenix bleed(ie. Pandora-Lost City)?
The GM's announced that they are trying to use genies to fix them but that doesn't exactly work against a class which has an entire skill tree revolving around debuffs.
Seriously, fix this. Bug the Dev's, high level players have quit over this and will continue to unless the skill gets fixed.
Pretty sure you will get the following answer:
The concerns from our player base have already been conveyed to the developers and we are waiting on an asnwer from them. Please be patient.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
Why? I see no forum rules violated in my post. Lower Depth'sing this is akin to censorship.Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.
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Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »Why? I see no forum rules violated in my post. Lower Depth'sing this is akin to censorship.
Sorry Witch, I changed my post. Let me clarify anyone that might read your post and go ??????
I had typed that "I have a feeling this post will take a nose dive into the lower depths". And Witch was replying to that.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
We all have to be patient and wait for the next patch, I do not develop or code the game in any capacity. Our developers are aware of many player concerns however please keep in mind that no aspect of a computer game is simple enough to be fixed quickly. Even when the changes can be made, lots and lots of testing must be done to ensure that the modification of one thing does not break something else.Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »Well you'd be a good person to help this thread like maybe answer the question,
Do you ever intend to bug the dev's to fix this or are you just gonna let EndGame PvPers quit as they find out their class is nothing when they get hit by Phoenix bleed(ie. Pandora-Lost City)?
The GM's announced that they are trying to use genies to fix them but that doesn't exactly work against a class which has an entire skill tree revolving around debuffs.
Seriously, fix this. Bug the Dev's, high level players have quit over this and will continue to unless the skill gets fixed.
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Those robotic responses are what annoy me most, like they are just dismissing your complaint as spam.
EDIT:Sorry if that sounded like it was aimed at you spoons, this was written before your reply.
What's the point of picking a DD class if all it takes is a bug thats 'Justified' by some to outdamage me?Currently flying internet spaceships around dodixie, moving to amarr soon.
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