TW Discussion - Twilight Temple

still red and orange b:shocked

Doubt nef will be able to take leg land this week. Regicide is becoming more of a factor in pushing nef into splitting forces. If things keep going this way it wont be long b4 people start to demonize leg as the #1. Too soon to tell though only the next month or two will show if anything is changing or not.

Something finally happens to the map...And Holy's on vacation. lols.

AndromedaB - Sanctuary wrote: »

...thats gota be the dumbest thing ever...
reg being strong means that it >>>>>>>>>>>>CAN<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< take land if nef puts more force onto leg *duh*

If it gets to the point that Nef has to choose between giving up land to Leg or giving up land to Reg, they'd probably put full force into Reg, because Reg would be the easier defense. Reg can split them, but Reg can't take them 1v1 yet.

Unless, of course, Nef has too much pride and would rather give Reg land than give more to Leg.

If I was Nef., I would give Regi. land and put full force to defend against Leg. It's better to give the weaker faction some land because you know that you will be able to take it back. If Legendary gets land, you probably won't be able to get it back unless you get lucky and have another faction that's equal to strength of Regi. and attack together.

_makina_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

We have the luxury of being on a pve server so you know what that means? No KOS you have the choice to go into pk mode meaning no one can stop you from lvling. If all the people wanna guild hop or flock to the big two they can but do you really think theres only 400 people playing the server? The big two cant hold all the new up and comming players. Regicide could complain be like boo hoo we cant compete but they are out there doing tw's and doing something about it for that i gotta give them some respect. All it takes is time.

I am in Regicide. Its the sheer amount of cash that nef/leg members get. Even if we become par in level with them (if that even actually happens) we will still have worse gear. They get like what? 280m a week? While we lose money from TW.

I miss the good TWs. I heard the legendary vs shockwave matches were "REAL TWs". Unfortunately, I was never in either. The best TW that I have had was "rebirth vs steel" before both of them fell. Full 3 hour madness. funfunfun.

LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »

I am in Regicide. Its the sheer amount of cash that nef/leg members get. Even if we become par in level with them (if that even actually happens) we will still have worse gear. They get like what? 280m a week? While we lose money from TW.

I miss the good TWs. I heard the legendary vs shockwave matches were "REAL TWs". Unfortunately, I was never in either. The best TW that I have had was "rebirth vs steel" before both of them fell. Full 3 hour madness. funfunfun.

Are you sure you're in Regicide?

LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »

I am in Regicide. Its the sheer amount of cash that nef/leg members get. Even if we become par in level with them (if that even actually happens) we will still have worse gear. They get like what? 280m a week? While we lose money from TW.

I miss the good TWs. I heard the legendary vs shockwave matches were "REAL TWs". Unfortunately, I was never in either. The best TW that I have had was "rebirth vs steel" before both of them fell. Full 3 hour madness. funfunfun.

That is why i said all it takes is time. If you keep playing u will get coin/money to + your gears as well after a while nef and leg will hit a wall and its up to the rest of the server to squish them (big omg killer guilds) into it. If people quit or move on thats their choice. I still think Sanctuary tw's arent dead they have just hit a stale patch as of the moment.

blindeyesniper wrote: »

I'm pretty sure taking a land back from Regi. is easier than taking a land back from Legendary. I would be surprised if Regicide could defend Nef head to head full force. You guys just aren't as powerful yet. ATM, you're only considered a good distraction much like "Rebirth" was. And in my opinion, before Asch abandoned PW, "Rebirth" was more powerful than Regi.'s current strength.

who are you exactly? and yes, rebirth went full offense on nef before asch quit and lasted an hour and a half. then aerial squads dropped to the ground (a few archers in particular b:angry) and nef gained the aerial advantage. that was it for that battle. i remember in that tw how silvercut was saying how easy nef was XD but i do agree with dan. equipment means nothing. look at bigpunisher, what a crappy barb. hes such a fail in tw. harima_kenji is so much harder. id also like to note that regi is slowly getting stronger. so props to yous. ;D

blindeyesniper wrote: »

I'm not going to argue against experience, strategies, and teamwork because It's true that they are vital to winning TWs. In comparison, Nef/Legendary have more experience than Regicide's current state and will continue to have more simply because they're TWing every week against multiple attackers. Nef and Leg also have good tactics and teamwork or else they wouldn't be able to hold as many land as they do now. So yes, all these things matter. However, Leg/Nef have some things most factions don't and they are large funds, better equipments, and the levels. Now, I'm not saying that they will be indestructible. They will fall eventually but I don't see that happening any time soon. They will continue to have better equipments and larger funds but once everyone caught up to level with them, it'll be a whole different ball game.

Nef/Legendary having more experience? That's arguable at best. With the exception of Shockwave and Steel, Nef/Legendary haven't needed to rely on strategy, or teamwork because they were able to just steam roll every faction they faced. But until about a month ago, when Legendary and Nefarious finally fought, they were pretty much on even playing fields. They've had to erase the concepts that they had more numbers and levels, and integrate new strategies, and teamwork that weren't needed before. I don't know about you, but steam rolling factions in five minutes, at least in my books, is hardly any experience at all. I mean yeah, they are TWing against multiple attacks every week, but most can just be steam rolled in five minutes.

It's true that at this current state of time, Nef/Legendary have had to endure week after week of attack. But in the earlier days they faced little to no opposition, and were able to steam roll most opponents.

Since the day Regicide was formed, we've always had to face stronger factions, stronger opponents. Face constant set-backs and losses. We started out as one of the weakest TW factions on the server, we managed to claim land on a few occasions, but quickly lost them. Several members immediately jumped ship to Nefarious and Legendary at the first sign of trouble. The attitude of the members who have stayed despite losing week after week after week of TWs, made them real members. One of the toughest things is getting wiped off the map and then getting back on. Many prior land holding factions crumbled immediately after losing their lands.

We've always been out-numbered, out-leveled. We've had our asses handed to us like no other. Because of those circumstances, strategy and teamwork was always a priority in every TW we've ever fought. In fact, we've probably lost more TWs than any other faction on the server. But despite the losses, defeats, we've always rebounded, and picked up new things; ways to improve the next battle, ways to outsmart the opponent when they least expect it. The fact that we're still alive and continuing to push forward must make us a living, breathing impossibility. xD

Don't get me wrong here, Nef/Legendary have had their setbacks as well, but they were mostly internal struggles. (ex: Nemesis, Knightz, Seppuku factions from Nefarious / Legendary's Milari quitting). We've pretty much established that even after losing almost every week, we keep pushing forward. If I'm not mistaken, Nef/Legendary acquired a lot of members from losing factions - People that gave up at the first sign of trouble. I'm not so sure what those certain members would happen to do if either faction started to lose lands.

Feel free to disagree, but my point still stands.

Zelfine - Sanctuary wrote: »

b:shocked Someone outdated on some information.
Meh, it's always darkest before the dawn lol

I doubt it. I was in FTW -> Hybrid ->"Rebirth" -> Regicide. I only recently decided to leave Regicide due to the fact that most of the people I know left and got tired of 15 minute TWs. So no, I am not outdated on Regicide's strength. TheDan, I will say this to you. You are a great leader and I think Regicide have great potential like "Rebirth" once did. If you keep going at them, I'm sure some day Regicide's name will be on the map. Just make sure you don't become another Asch and let your faction crumble. I once thought that Nef lacked real TW experience and would fall when faced by a faction with experience and organization. I was wrong. Nef is very well organized and very disciplined when it comes to TW. I think you may be under-estimating them a bit.

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

Nef/Legendary having more experience? That's arguable at best. With the exception of Shockwave and Steel, Nef/Legendary haven't needed to rely on strategy, or teamwork because they were able to just steam roll every faction they faced. But until about a month ago, when Legendary and Nefarious finally fought, they were pretty much on even playing fields. They've had to erase the concepts that they had more numbers and levels, and integrate new strategies, and teamwork that weren't needed before. I don't know about you, but steam rolling factions in five minutes, at least in my books, is hardly any experience at all. I mean yeah, they are TWing against multiple attacks every week, but most can just be steam rolled in five minutes.

It's true that at this current state of time, Nef/Legendary have had to endure week after week of attack. But in the earlier days they faced little to no opposition, and were able to steam roll most opponents.

Since the day Regicide was formed, we've always had to face stronger factions, stronger opponents. Face constant set-backs and losses. We started out as one of the weakest TW factions on the server, we managed to claim land on a few occasions, but quickly lost them. Several members immediately jumped ship to Nefarious and Legendary at the first sign of trouble. The attitude of the members who have stayed despite losing week after week after week of TWs, made them real members. One of the toughest things is getting wiped off the map and then getting back on. Many prior land holding factions crumbled immediately after losing their lands.

We've always been out-numbered, out-leveled. We've had our asses handed to us like no other. Because of those circumstances, strategy and teamwork was always a priority in every TW we've ever fought. In fact, we've probably lost more TWs than any other faction on the server. But despite the losses, defeats, we've always rebounded, and picked up new things; ways to improve the next battle, ways to outsmart the opponent when they least expect it. The fact that we're still alive and continuing to push forward must make us a living, breathing impossibility. xD

Don't get me wrong here, Nef/Legendary have had their setbacks as well, but they were mostly internal struggles. (ex: Nemesis, Knightz, Seppuku factions from Nefarious / Legendary's Milari quitting). We've pretty much established that even after losing almost every week, we keep pushing forward. If I'm not mistaken, Nef/Legendary acquired a lot of members from losing factions - People that gave up at the first sign of trouble. I'm not so sure what those certain members would happen to do if either faction started to lose lands.

Feel free to disagree, but my point still stands.

I think dan just pretty much nailed it here =P

blah, the posts are weak b:angry need more QQs b:chuckle

And what else is weak, nef's defense, i ran in took 5 laps in their base by myself b4 i was killed. And i was like the only one there. (legendary that is :P)

well either way these tws are the most fun ive had in a while, b:cute