Why do they keep nerfing Venos?! :(

I am glad they did that, now you can't fly around in fox form and not even press buttons to **** ppl with the nix, you at least have to target them. It's really not nerfing when the other classes don't even have a pet to do that with.

....Watch what they'll do next, they'll actually make you use ctrl+2 for skills instead of ctrl+1 and it auto does it. You got a nix with a bigged flesh ream, you don't get the right to QQ.

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

lol poor archer has been killed one too many times by a bird. PK in SP maybe where they cant bird?

You'll see that many Veno's are:


1) Afraid of dungeon-class area's

2) Afraid of water



The moment I drop into the water soo many veno's make a dash for safety.

Maybe they should spend less time nerfing venos and more time balancing everyone? Having not played a MMO before this game I expected it to have some of the balance I have seen in some single player RPGs out there but not too long after playing I realized how unfair things were based just on what class you selected.

Genies are meant to balance classes by letting you select your style of play. The problem is that a veno won't need extra dmg b/c of flesh ream, and they have all the genie skills except anti stun and dragons, so they will end up really having everything.

Have to agree with Tearvalerin:
Venos are weak and squishy. I think veno's attacks are the weakest from all classes, so without a pet we would be even weaker and more challenging than wizards are. The only buff/protection venos have is nerfed in pk mode. Basicly, only pet is left as good "speciality/class" item. True, Nix (or more like Flesh Ream) is a huge extra for pk, but genies will have few spells which removes bleed. So in the end we will have a squishy veno with chicken and some genie's spells.

If you can't take a veno down, then be creative and use your imagination. Even hood wouldn't make too big difference in pk if you figure out how to deal with it. Just ask a veno friend to duel with you. Duel isn't PK, but gives better idea about veno's weaknesses and how to use them for your own good.

But I am not too found of veno PKers who uses their pets to do all the dirty job while they are running around. Those have to improve their skills too...

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

people act like were invincible though, we're not, wear a charm, aim for the squishy toy, easy kill . if you cant kill a venomancer theres something wrong.

Damewort - Sanctuary wrote: »

Have to agree with Tearvalerin:
Venos are weak and squishy. I think veno's attacks are the weakest from all classes, so without a pet we would be even weaker and more challenging than wizards are. The only buff/protection venos have is nerfed in pk mode. Basicly, only pet is left as good "speciality/class" item. True, Nix (or more like Flesh Ream) is a huge extra for pk, but genies will have few spells which removes bleed. So in the end we will have a squishy veno with chicken and some genie's spells.

If you can't take a veno down, then be creative and use your imagination. Even hood wouldn't make too big difference in pk if you figure out how to deal with it. Just ask a veno friend to duel with you. Duel isn't PK, but gives better idea about veno's weaknesses and how to use them for your own good.

But I am not too found of veno PKers who uses their pets to do all the dirty job while they are running around. Those have to improve their skills too...

... Heavy Veno?


I highly doubt you guys ever had the pleasure of meeting one in open PvP - seeing as how you guys are on PvE servers.



Heavy Venomancers simply let the Pheonix (QQBird) attack while they kite beyond striking range. When a venomancer can use the QQBird to attack from beyond an archers range there is something seriously wrong with balance there.



The only real way to deal with the QQ Bird is to drop into a pond somewhere. Only, the venomancer will be long gone because they have an allergy to hydrogen dioxide

Damewort - Sanctuary wrote: »

Btw, how good is their magic defence? Heavy veno can handle phys. attacks better, but how good is their resistance against magic attacks?

pretty much invulnarable to mag attacks cause QQ bird finishes robes in a blink

Torinchibi - Lost City wrote: »

I am glad they did that, now you can't fly around in fox form and not even press buttons to **** ppl with the nix, you at least have to target them. It's really not nerfing when the other classes don't even have a pet to do that with.

....Watch what they'll do next, they'll actually make you use ctrl+2 for skills instead of ctrl+1 and it auto does it. You got a nix with a bigged flesh ream, you don't get the right to QQ.

I am glaaaaaaaaaaad of play game with bugs and that u say is same thing... non sense things, im agree with the fix of the fleash ram and im veno.
Please think twice before post

b:bye

PS: Sometimes i think that the game is free to play but the forum should be pay per post.

bramble's return hasnt worked in pvp for god knows how long. why bring it up now? OP is trolling the **** out of everyone

mbrunestud wrote: »

bramble's return hasnt worked in pvp for god knows how long. why bring it up now? OP is trolling the **** out of everyone

Now? since long time that ppl report this bug... months ago b:embarrass

b:bye

Mizorie - Lost City wrote: »

This is what the do in any mmo they nerf and raise skills to better help the balance of the game....venos just seemed to be the only class that is noticibly OP. They can't get rid of the nix because its a major profit for them, so there just going to nerf every other skill a veno has.

I have played every class, and the last game I played I left due to balance issues. This game is balanced well you just like to complain because 1 class can do something you can't. Well I can do that too.

Archers crit too much and have too much attack range, they are overpowered nerf them!

Blademasters spam stuns so no one can fight back, nerf that!

Wizards have a no channeling move, they are overpowered!

Barbarians have too much hp! They are overpowered!

Clerics are overpowered because they can spam heal themselves and use sleep, nerf them too!

They should nerf the Nix not the Veno lol....

Wrong target!

P.S. Goes off to drink some

Murugan wrote:

DiHydrogen Monoxide

... Oh yea, it's a seriously dangerous chemicial

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Unfortunately, it seems that PWI may have fallen into the trap that many F2P MMOs fall into: letting their player base debug/balance the game. This sounds like a really good idea, but it comes at a serious cost: many players (and often the most vocal ones) are lazy/idiotic/not serious. This means that lots of people QQ about Venos on the boards who have never even tried playing one and haven't even thought about taking advantage of the Veno's weaknesses, and so PWI nerfs Venos.

There was nothing wrong with Bramble Hood in PvP. It's no worse than a BM's stuns. If Bramble Hood gets nerfed, so should those stuns, and the cleric's sleep/damage spells, and the archer's range/stuns, and the Barb's HP, and every advantage every class has. There's nothing wrong with pets (though I don't really see much of an advantage to the 'shield' in PvP). There isn't even anything wrong with Nix. The only problem is Flesh Ream. Stop nerfing Venos based on uninformed QQing and just fix Flesh Ream.

And btw, to all the PvPers out there that QQ about Flesh Ream on Nixs, there are apoth potions to take care of that already, and there are going to be genie skills to manage it as well. Does that mean Flesh Ream isn't bugged any more? No, but it does mean you don't have to let yourselves be **** by it every second.

Xdmghyper - Lost City wrote: »

3) ok this last one i just noticed today after some testing, when u summon pet and put it on shield mode it doesnt work for pvp anymore , only pve. b:angry

Did you mean in "defensive" mode?