Why do they keep nerfing Venos?! :(
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So bugged flesh ream is still bugged, and reflect skill don't work anymore? This is great.
Reflect and swimming mastery are legitimate parts of the game, and should never be broken. Flesh ream is broken, and should be fixed. Instead of fix what's broken, they just broke even more things, and hope it'll somehow even out?b:embarrass0 -
So why are Venos crying? They have the best class even with this supposed "nerf". So quit crying and enjoy the best class in the game.
Or let me have a phoenix, and kill people from a distance
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Aragorn - Harshlands wrote: »So why are Venos crying? They have the best class even with this supposed "nerf". So quit crying and enjoy the best class in the game.
Or let me have a phoenix, and kill people from a distance
Because I don't want to exploit a bug. I'd rather use what's legitimate. Some of us have integrity. Now, what's legitimate is gone, and we're left with a bug.0 -
Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »So bugged flesh ream is still bugged, and reflect skill don't work anymore? This is great.
Reflect and swimming mastery are legitimate parts of the game, and should never be broken. Flesh ream is broken, and should be fixed. Instead of fix what's broken, they just broke even more things, and hope it'll somehow even out?b:embarrass
Reflect isn't broken. its intended not to work in PvP - like the archers, wizards and barbs knockback... At least thats what i guess.0 -
Literature - Harshlands wrote: »One more thing about Sylvinis post. That strategy of going for the pet works with something like a sawfly. They are so weak. b:shocked But I know that if I had a nix I would LOVE for someone to go for it and ignore me. I could amp them, nuke, do some many things that would cause them 100% death. ;o
It's like trying to kill a BM Hunter's pet in wow: it's extremely hard, and the hunter is going to put the hurt on you.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
So now the venos are the only robe class that doesn't have a working buff in pvp? That's lame. The wizards have their element shieldy thingy, the clerics have just general buffs (I realize these can be shared freely but to make my point I'm not counting that), the venos had their bramble guard that was supposed to at least help us when we're taking melee damage (and specifically melee, the cleric buffs lessen all kinds of damage). It didn't absorb damage like the elves winged/plume shell does, but merely deflected a percentage of damage dealt to us. We're still going to die fast against a physical hit, the bramble guard was really to give us a chance when we came up against a melee attacker. It's practically useless in pve because the pet draws agro...that's what it's there for. Players aren't dumb enough to fall for the pets "i'm gonna draw your agro" tricks, so they take the only thing we have that helps us against a melee attacker (pet's damage sucks comparatively) and disable it when it would be most useful. Way to go PWI.
And Swimming Mastery being broken is such a pile of skubala. At least gimme my coin and sp back if you're going to break my skills, okay?0 -
swimming mastery says N/A on it hoping youd get the clue it doesnt work lol
they took it out from the CN PW on its way here. it doesnt even cost that much even if you did get it >_>0 -
Enough of these threads please </3
They all lead to the same conclusion, people fighting then getting locked.
1) All classes have one OP thing about them.
2) Complaining about the same thing over and over is honestly a loop of idiocy, I think everybody knows very well right now whats wrong with flesh, no point to continue.
3) There's this type of class in most games, it's not like pwi is making a stretch people.
4) Nuff said.
Sorry if I seem mean, I'm sleepy.
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Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »swimming mastery says N/A on it hoping youd get the clue it doesnt work lol
they took it out from the CN PW on its way here. it doesnt even cost that much even if you did get it >_>
Some of us got it before they broke it.0 -
and people say we are OPed? we need our pets to protect us from what the devs are doing!Valdea - Dreamweaver wrote: »So now the venos are the only robe class that doesn't have a working buff in pvp? That's lame. The wizards have their element shieldy thingy, the clerics have just general buffs (I realize these can be shared freely but to make my point I'm not counting that), the venos had their bramble guard that was supposed to at least help us when we're taking melee damage (and specifically melee, the cleric buffs lessen all kinds of damage). It didn't absorb damage like the elves winged/plume shell does, but merely deflected a percentage of damage dealt to us. We're still going to die fast against a physical hit, the bramble guard was really to give us a chance when we came up against a melee attacker. It's practically useless in pve because the pet draws agro...that's what it's there for. Players aren't dumb enough to fall for the pets "i'm gonna draw your agro" tricks, so they take the only thing we have that helps us against a melee attacker (pet's damage sucks comparatively) and disable it when it would be most useful. Way to go PWI.
And Swimming Mastery being broken is such a pile of skubala. At least gimme my coin and sp back if you're going to break my skills, okay?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
(and hugs to Flauschkatze for the sig!)
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Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »Some of us got it before they broke it.
Indeed. I've had that skill since the game started on day 1.Main characters
Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
Sage Barbarian Malego - 910 -
another skill they screwed up is hell ironwood. it gives 20% chance to do its bonus debuff to reduce pdef by 100% if that doesnt hit then it doesnt do a damn thing and you dont even get the 40% debuff for 10 seconds. nerfing a skill so it only gives a 20% chance of success or you lose the reason you have used it for its first 10 levels.Staring at the wall is much more rewarding than playing PW.0
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Starrr - Harshlands wrote: »another skill they screwed up is hell ironwood. it gives 20% chance to do its bonus debuff to reduce pdef by 100% if that doesnt hit then it doesnt do a damn thing and you dont even get the 40% debuff for 10 seconds. nerfing a skill so it only gives a 20% chance of success or you lose the reason you have used it for its first 10 levels.
Yes aren't sage/demon skills supposed to just add an effect ontop of the already existing skill effect, or enhance it anyway? Not remove the old effect completely.
I know my 3 sage skills just add on effects to, or power up the current effects of my skills.Main characters
Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
Sage Barbarian Malego - 910 -
i had gotten it too, but now it says NA. so apparently it doesnt matter if you had once had it or now, its gone now. nice of PWI to not tell us things will be taken that perhaps may be lifesavers. whats next, summer sprint?Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »Indeed. I've had that skill since the game started on day 1.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Nope, next they will make "Turn into Fox" cost two sparks
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
TY _Bloody_Fox_ for the sig ^_^
I think venomancers are a pretty cool guy, eh mances the venom and doesn't afraid of anything.0 -
angellicdeity wrote: »The only real way to deal with the QQ Bird is to drop into a pond somewhere. Only, the venomancer will be long gone because they have an allergy to hydrogen dioxide
It's actually dihydrogen oxide0 -
The main issue venos have with water is that it will remove their phoenix entirely (the bird is made out of fire so if you put it out, there is nothing left) and the hercules looks like it may rust.Main characters
Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
Sage Barbarian Malego - 910 -
SATII - Lost City wrote: »It's actually dihydrogen oxide
Dihydrogen monoxide if you're gonna get technical. 0 -
i cant remember where i saw it, but the herc always looks like this gold image of a pig that was worshiped/venerated somewhere in the far east....now i have to see if i can track that down! something i saw a long time ago, but cant get out of my mind.
but thats funny about the phoenix-i never thought of it as being made of flame, it does doesnt it! *poof* <blows out bird like a match>
...this all being said as a joke-i cant afford either, but i do have a phoenix!b:cute
Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »The main issue venos have with water is that it will remove their phoenix entirely (the bird is made out of fire so if you put it out, there is nothing left) and the hercules looks like it may rust.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
(and hugs to Flauschkatze for the sig!)
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hey its actually another decent looking venomancer that isnt made to look like an ugly fat cow! god all the venos on sanc have like.. jew black skin w/ rainbow mohawks. or pure red skin, with wild flaming yellow hair.. lol just few examples of the ugly POS' i see runnin around.0
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I keep seeing ugly people as well... Honestly, why do you do such things? Here I am, wandering around, minding my own business, and all of a sudden... BWAH! WTF was that?! *takes another peek* Ugh... I know you can... But still... NO.
It's gotten bad enough that I'm almost wanting to start a petition.
"No buffs for ugly people." Because it hurts everytime I have to click on you to buff you.0 -
Lol, I already do that. *Signs petition*0
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******it guys its hydrogen hydroxideElena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
Qui: b:dirty0 -
Dihydrogen Monoxide. Trust me on this one... I had to pass around a petition in High School to ban DHMO... Just to see how stupid our school was. Even the Principal fell for it. And, yes. Hydrogen Hydroxide works as well. Just **** it and go with what we all know. H200
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Xdmghyper - Lost City wrote: »ok so far i know that the following skills have been nerfed:
1) swimming speed skills ( i want my money and sp back pls )
2) bramble guard and hood reflect skills dont work for pvp anymore!! b:cry
3) ok this last one i just noticed today after some testing, when u summon pet and put it on shield mode it doesnt work for pvp anymore , only pve. b:angry
im so upset coz they never told us when they nerfed it and we must discover the secrets for ourselves....b:surrender
if anyone knows anything else thats been nerfed pls share with us. thanks!!
"Keep nerfing venos" lol
I dont know how many damn times i have to tell ppl, and they still dont get it b:cry.
REFLECT NEVER WORKED IN OPEN PVP only in duels. Venos have never been able to rebound 200% of mele dmg with bramle hood. Its like wiz/archers knockback skills, that also dont work in pvp. And you dont see any archers or wiz crying about "omg why cant i push back BMs that stun me in pk". So pls do some research about this 5 year old game instead of QQ-ing about a nerfs that never existed.
Makes me so tired, u can tell people this 100000 times and they still don't get it and complain and wonder why they cant 200% rebound a 20k perdition crit. All mele classes would commit suicide even touching a veno, thats why it reflect works differently in pve and pvp.
And swimming mastery is finally fixed now, so no its not "nerfed" its working.
And having your pet in defence mode attacking players when your afk was more of a bugg that they finally fixed than a nerf. No other class had the option to kill people with a bugged pet skill, when they where afk making coffey lol. To me defence mode was a damn glitch in pvp. So get your lazy venoass to safezone if you wanna afk <.<
As long as veno pets wont get the same dmg reduction in HH as players, we venos should be damn happy and not make up nerfs that dont even exist. Hercules hitting hh-bosses for 3 digit dmg...imagine that ^_^0 -
Yeah.... thats about it seriouslySylvini - Heavens Tear wrote: »There isn't even anything wrong with Nix. The only problem is Flesh Ream. Stop nerfing Venos based on uninformed QQing and just fix Flesh Ream.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »"Keep nerfing venos" lol
I dont know how many damn times i have to tell ppl, and they still dont get it b:cry.
REFLECT NEVER WORKED IN OPEN PVP only in duels. Venos have never been able to rebound 200% of mele dmg with bramle hood. Its like wiz/archers knockback skills, that also dont work in pvp. And you dont see any archers or wiz crying about "omg why cant i push back BMs that stun me in pk". So pls do some research about this 5 year old game instead of QQ-ing about a nerfs that never existed.
Makes me so tired, u can tell people this 100000 times and they still don't get it and complain and wonder why they cant 200% rebound a 20k perdition crit. All mele classes would commit suicide even touching a veno, thats why it reflect works differently in pve and pvp.
And swimming mastery is finally fixed now, so no its not "nerfed" its working.
And having your pet in defence mode attacking players when your afk was more of a bugg that they finally fixed than a nerf. No other class had the option to kill people with a bugged pet skill, when they where afk making coffey lol. To me defence mode was a damn glitch in pvp. So get your lazy venoass to safezone if you wanna afk <.<
As long as veno pets wont get the same dmg reduction in HH as players, we venos should be damn happy and not make up nerfs that dont even exist. Hercules hitting hh-bosses for 3 digit dmg...imagine that ^_^
i tried a long time ago bramble hood does work, and besides for a skills that takes 2 sparks and last 15 secs it would be easy for someone to run away and come back. the knockback skill if it took 2 sparks to cast then i would have to argue about it not working in pvp lol.
for the pet shield mode i use it for gathering mats and doing world quest so no one would surprise me with an attack, coz i mostly can get 2 shoted by a good pker and with my shield gone now my nix wouldnt be able to stun and run away or have time to heal.
o yeah forgot to mention that seconds in pw seems to go faster than real life seconds. For example 10 sec in pw would seem like 5 or 6 sec if u time it on a stopwatch. all that said i feel like the 15 sec bramble hood is worth less than 10 secs and its easy to aviod the reflect if you are an experienced player.0 -
Osiris - Dreamweaver wrote: »
That was Eff'd up b:sad.... thanks god I never saw this movie.
*Hugs cat and curls up in bed*0 -
Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »Archers crit too much and have too much attack range, they are overpowered nerf them!
Blademasters spam stuns so no one can fight back, nerf that!
Wizards have a no channeling move, they are overpowered!
Barbarians have too much hp! They are overpowered!
Clerics are overpowered because they can spam heal themselves and use sleep, nerf them too!
They can crit but there is plume shell, Invoke spirit, running away method, Heiros, and the naturally low attack.
They can stun but you can freeze/stun before they get close to you.
Wizards have a no channelling move, so archer and veno skills cast so fast you wouldnt even know they had channelling as well as the nix has a incredibly fast attack rate.
Barbs have too much hp... 'TOO' much.. They are tanks they need the hp.
Clerics can spam heal and sleep, BMs have bod and archers have wings of grace. we can spam heal and can get stunned.
NO CLASS IS OVER POWERED. only the nix.We're MysticAve my name is not Dave
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The only Problem is it is your first pets only skill if you choose wolf.There is lots of Veno talk and yes I play one.What about other classes?Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0
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