Top ten things you dont want to hear yor Cleric say

Okay, here are some which i have came across players in the game quoting...

-Oh sry, i didnt put my heal skills onto my hotbar =(
-Why must i level/empower/upgrade my heals when i have charms?
-Heal me!!!
-Sry, i only do tanking, ask the other cleric to heal
-Sry, i was concentrating too much on the mob's hp bar
-You have charms, do u? *the tanker said yes* Ok, then theres no need for me to heal u, lets tank tgt

FionaCattail - Sanctuary wrote: »

I agree.. especially on the RB thing.. personally, I think RB is a pointless skill ok, so it increases damage, and reduces casting time.. but all that really means is what? you kill the mob/boss faster at the expense of a charm and a bunch of cash?.. the only time that I would ever think of asking a cleric to RB is if I'm the one that gave them the charm in the first place.

you will find out it's not useless when you get to TT3-1 and have to kill 4min boss. Unless you have serious DD in team, you need RB in order to kill the boss before it will 1hit all your team members. b:mischievous

SilverTease - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I agree it's not needed if you have good DDs in team... I usually go with good parties in TT so we don't NEED RB up. But ... ive been asked a couple times to help on that 4min boss (by help i mean amplify damage) and we couldn't kill it without RB. So it's not really useless. On your same idea i can say amplify is useless cause it costs me a lot of mp to keep switching to fox to cast it... all that for what? killing faster? Think about it.

but it doesn't burn out a charm like RB does that's my point.. like I said.. if I'm asking someone to RB, it's because I bought them the charm.. I wouldn't ask anyone to waste their charm for something like RB unless I paid for it..

in the same aspect.. usually when a cleric comes along and I know they are going to bubble, either I give them a little extra from the splits at the end.. or I give them sesame or pots to help supplement their charm..

SilverTease - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Jack_Nel: lol this isn't an argue topic, i was just saying what i really don't like to hear from a cleric - specially during a dungeon run.

Too bad this is an argue topic now...

SilverTease - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yes i know how expensive it is to be a cleric, i know clerics burn lots of charm and angels and res scrolls... but when i ask a cleric to join team as a second healer, and specify that he/she needs a mp charm... it's kinda obvious that he/she is gonna have to BB all the way... else... why the hell would i ask for a "charmed healer" ??

TBH I have never seen a WC asking for a charmed healer but then again, for the TT run the cleric should know what runs require BB or what bosses require BB

SilverTease - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I also know that healing barb when he doesn't have aggro on all mobs will result in getting mobs on cleric... so what do you do? BB, sq heal or just watch the barb going down? (and all the DDs right after the barb)

Watch the barb down till its taken agro from All mobs and then the DD's cuz squad heal will take agro if u do it constantly and I'm not healing the barb taking agro then dying then barb dies. Then I have to go all the way back and res them losing exp...

SilverTease - Heavens Tear wrote: »

As for the "can't heal all of you" part... hell yes you can! that's why you have sq heal and BB...

Squad heal only does so much and well BB requires two sparks

SilverTease - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I don't blame any cleric for trying to save charms or their life... i can say i kinda know how a cleric's "life" is. But if you as a cleric agree to join a party, you're supposed to keep all the party members alive at all costs, right?

I don't agree with the saving of charms part... If you want to save it do what i do and use focus powders or concentrate orbs but saving their life i completly agree with. Do you know how annoying it is to die because the tank failed to take agro then get abused because u didnt heal and then get 3hkoed. Basically we have two choices.

1. Heal the barb, take agro and hopefully someone is smart enough to go 'oh the cleric took agro cuz the barb didnt attack them all, i better save him' or die in 3 hits cuz most of the mobs in TT runs are phys atk and in FB's its very rare cuz 59+ are wined and are magic.

OR

2. Watch the barb get hit till he attacks all then heal. Normally barbs can tank mobs quite well.... hence why people ppl call them tanks, then if the barb fails to take agro we watch him die then res him so he only loses .2%

Which do you think we would pick... us losing 2% or the barb losing 0.2%

And no as a cleric we don't agree to keep the party alive at all cost, we agree to try to keep the party alive as well as we can, but if its picking between u dying or us dying what would you do if you were a cleric....

SilverTease - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Again, sorry if i offended anyone, i just stated what i don't like to hear from a cleric - it's what this topic was started in the first place... or so i thought.b:surrender...

None offence taken from u personally as there are some stupid clerics as i have seen them b4 on some of my other chars, but yeah im just ranting my frustration out.....

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Stoned_Guy - Sanctuary wrote: »

"I had sex with your girlfriend last night."

whos girlfriend?
b:shocked

SilverTease - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I also know that healing barb when he doesn't have aggro on all mobs will result in getting mobs on cleric... so what do you do? BB, sq heal or just watch the barb going down? (and all the DDs right after the barb)

As for the "can't heal all of you" part... hell yes you can! that's why you have sq heal and BB...

I don't blame any cleric for trying to save charms or their life... i can say i kinda know how a cleric's "life" is. But if you as a cleric agree to join a party, you're supposed to keep all the party members alive at all costs, right?

Again, sorry if i offended anyone, i just stated what i don't like to hear from a cleric - it's what this topic was started in the first place... or so i thought.b:surrender

sq heal cast time is long and chances are...ur dd will die before the heal goes on because they can take 2-3hits unless they are charmed and with the dmg a dd take/hit from mobs in tt and other high lvl dungeons sq heal is like useless.
BB as mentioned before require 2 spark, not something u can always just throw up because DD cant control their aggro and the tank cant hold their aggro.

definitly not for cleric keeping the party alive at all cost. a cleric is suppose to keep themselves alive as #1 and the tank as #2. everyone else is expendable in a fight and u only heal them if u can achieve #1 and #2 at the same time. a live cleric means he can keep healing the tank until everything is dead and revive the DDs, a dead cleric = dead tank = party wipe.

the situations u mentioned are results of careless errors while going through a dungeon or the stupidity of tank and DDs not doing their job correctly, its is not the clerics job to cover for every single **** up another class does.

if the tank dont get aggro on a group of mob, well there is a mess up for tank not doing its job.
if a DD pulls aggro, there is the **** up for DD. we are suppose to deal the maximum amount of damage without pulling aggro, if u do pull aggro u should be able to take care of urself for at least 10sec+ without cleric heal.

when i hear a cleric say those things, if i were the tank i would be the one apologizing for the **** up for not roaring, if i was the DD i would be apologizing and saying it was my fault to pull aggro in the 1st place. there are some things people just expect from cleric thats just more then they should. cleric isnt some magic being that can keep keep everyone alive. they can if everyone does their part correctly, if they dont...well...thats another story.

another line i heard once and dont want to hear from cleric again
"i am dead? i pulled aggro? did i attack 2 early?"
came from a cleric who attack before the tank even reached the mob>.>

"brb"

Something you dont ever wanna hear clerics say....


I WONT RES YOU.

<Cleric> wait and let me spam....

<tank>already killing

<tank> *dead* why wasn't u healing?

<Cleric> I was going to spam IH before you started but u took off and started before I could. Then I had to try to chase you to get close enough to heal you without dying because you ran off before I could SPAM IH.

<tank>leaves.

This is what happens a lot. I wish tanks would learn not to rush and let us do our jobs instead of yelling at us and trying to tell us how. When they won't allow us to do what we know needs done.

<Being the only cleric in the party>

<Wielding TT axes>

(Cleric) I am a Heavy Armor cleric, let me know when you need some buffs, so I can use my wand.
(party) ..............

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

<Being the only cleric in the party>

<Wielding TT axes>

(Cleric) I am a Heavy Armor cleric, let me know when you need some buffs, so I can use my wand.
(party) ..............

... I have a sudden urge to make a HA cleric and go into TT runs with calamities while telling the barb that I'll be the tank and he needs to buff me.

No fancy sayings or looks just the name of my cleric....

Rez_for_tenK
Character lvl 3

I've already had people offer to pay me. (I declined I won't be that mean)

Wizards are more back-up healers. Sure I have saved lives with Sutra+Heal but thats the only 6 seconds we can outheal you.

After being on the recieving end of a sparked razor wings I don't really view you guys as heal slaves and rez monkeys.

I rarely ask for buffs and I do try to be polite when I ask for them(usually just the M.Atk buff). Without clerics we'd all still be face down on the ground staring at a black and white screen

Witchburner - Sanctuary wrote: »

After being on the recieving end of a sparked razor wings I don't really view you guys as heal slaves and rez monkeys.

Nice to hear, now if everyone could be as realist as you, it would make our play a lot more fun.

I rarely ask for buffs and I do try to be polite when I ask for them(usually just the M.Atk buff). Without clerics we'd all still be face down on the ground staring at a black and white screen

The key word here is "polite": I go out of my way to help someone who is polite and respectful, which is not often the case, sadly.

I also think every responsible player should carry guardian dolls and possibly one revive scroll to avoid any conflictual situation. The real problem is that everyone blames the cleric when some situation arises, even if it's someone else's fault... like clerics are not entitled to the right to err, but everyone else is.

And to those who make fun of players who are building Full Magic (or Full Attack) clerics, remember that we are late bloomers. As useless as we may seem until much later, we become very sought-after partners later on so, just be patient, like we are