Upcoming G17/R5 weapon release in PW-CN Discussion

@attackerv : What level and property value of house are required if we aim for g17r3 only ?

For any class that's still using r8rr weapon or even Warsoul weapon with 50 atk level, G17R3 is probably the next best thing. I bet it equals to even Warsoul weapon with 65 atk level if not better for some classes.

Can I f2p to reach 4050 property value or do I need to cashshop to get there ?

I bet it still needs coins though, could you estimate how much coin am I looking for to reach 4050 property value ?

I plan to just reach g17r3 for my alts, and above that just for one main.

whats the corresponding nature of housing "levels" such as those describe in the builder, creator, etc. packs in which you get items that help improve that, to "property value".​​

Well to my understanding G17r2 comes with just 2 stats, where as G16 comes with a few and most likely a higher base damage, not to mention the overall ease of acquiring it. Warsoul is still a very powerful weapon, and for WSr2 it costs like what 500-600m? That is an amazing price for a weapon which minus procs is on par if not better then R9.

tl;dr I dont think G17 will affect the market too much, it will just open an additional market for players. Which is a good thing.

Which weapon proc will you guys choose ?

I know unless the def proc rates are abysmally small compared to puri spell no way I'm getting puri spell on wep, ******* terrible now a days. Oh I get puri spell during a paralyze skill, can't mov oh i get puri spell at the start of a elimation/cursed jail, I move 20 meters from target and drop dead because unlike magic spells, phy skills don't cancel when your target is out of range -_-.

Instead of nerfing one class or the others, Wanmei puts all unique stats on weapon on the table and let us decide which one we're gonna choose. Seems like they also force us to use consumables such as hp mp charm, pdef mdef charm, autopot, etc to be heavily used if we want to last longer in pvp, those can't be farmed ingame and the only source is through item mall. No matter how endgame our armor is right now, I don't think it will be able to withstand damage coming from G17R5 or even R4 combined with the new super skills. Whoever hits first and stunlock will be more likely to win.

I think GoF will be everyone's new favorite, purify spell has counter since wanmei gave barb, bm and a few other classes a new stun mechanic. Even if we reached max pdef/mdef in the game which is 79317 or 95% dmg reduction, GoF will easily bring down that value when zerkcrit proc'ed. 5% damage received will be doubled to 10% when crit, and quadrupled to 20% when zerkcrit, means our armor will only reduce 80% when zerkcrit proc'ed and how much pdef is 80% dmg reduction ? It's 16.700 pdef/mdef. That's like hitting an undergeared char.

I bet later after this expansion or when a lot of people walk around with g17r5 weapon, ppl will qq and they'll introduce new sets of armor and milk us some more.

catgirldesu said:

Wanmei never nerfs anything, they only bring more OP things to counter the old OP things.



I can imagine they'll bring new G17 armor if G17 weapons & new skills (and whatever other additions we get) will become too strong for the defences we have. The gear will probably require 5 years of farming (or you can cash shop it) until it becomes easier to get later on. Maybe they'll also release the Defence Level +3 shards (I think they exist, but aren't in the official servers) and the Vitality +20 stones, and a new race with anti-Paralyse self buffs that work as great anti-Nightshade counters. They'll also begin adding procs on armor to counter the weapon procs.



I'm obviously joking.​​

Hush your dirty mouth!!!!!

@freygin
Idk about the DBs and sins on your server but on my server the ones that are equal gear to me are actually competent. I can rarely get a skill off vs a DB (and I have -60% chan in 3r9 gear) and when I do it either a. Does next to no damage due to charms or b. They stealth or shroud away when I try to debuff or spark and laugh. Same with sins, I hit maybe 10k crit on a liked gear sin, while one lucky elimation, cured jail or even knife throw can kill my char ( though they still are easier than DBs at leadt). To give an idea of how I'm geared, I'm 24k hp, 24 p def , 1550 spirit, 60 m attack unbuffed.

demansfairy said:

@freygin

Idk about the DBs and sins on your server but on my server the ones that are equal gear to me are actually competent. I can rarely get a skill off vs a DB (and I have -60% chan in 3r9 gear) and when I do it either a. Does next to no damage due to charms or b. They stealth or shroud away when I try to debuff or spark and laugh. Same with sins, I hit maybe 10k crit on a liked gear sin, while one lucky elimation, cured jail or even knife throw can kill my char ( though they still are easier than DBs at leadt). To give an idea of how I'm geared, I'm 24k hp, 24 p def , 1550 spirit, 60 m attack unbuffed.

On a pvp server where I play, there is no equal gear, ppl build their chars as best they can afford from f2p to thousands of dollars, so gears are wildly varied because ppl have different tastes and budgets on how they want to build their chars. It's filled with trashtalk and revenge to each other, so everything goes to floor your enemies, by ganking, call for help using signets, multi clients and gank with alts.

There is hardly a fair 1v1 fight so it's kinda hard to judge whether someone is competent or not. There is no friendly match unless it's a duel in a safe zone with friends/faction mates. Funny thing here is even an undergeared char will most likely trashtalk someone just by witnessing this someone dead, even though he's not the one who killed this someone, as long as he's on the same side with the one who did the kill. Or when a group of ppl from one side are forced to safe zone because the opposing side outnumber them, they will trashtalk each other. We are granted free will, GMs don't care if you camp and kill someone a thousand times. Just to give you an idea how it looks like on a different server.