New PW Expansion (PWCN: Glory and Rebirth)

countarmand

Hey you said you have some old game clients? I have been having trouble trying to do some of the character editing that they say is nonbannable. But I have some kind of messed up pwi file I think.

LodeJunior - Archosaur

Marengo - Lost City wrote: »

Yes, but still it doesn't answer my question. I didn't lvl to lose it so fast and for nothing. Don't know yet how the system will work, maybe after all possible reincarnations it will be given back...

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Im confused. which is it >.> 99 or 105

The historical figure is the figure before you reincarnated and is max level of 105 as of now. After reincarnating, you can maximum level to 100.

freygin

when exactly can people login to the test server so we can all have the answers ?

Asterelle - Sanctuary

freygin wrote: »

when exactly can people login to the test server so we can all have the answers ?

Right now!
They actually release another patch just before test server went live:
http://md2.w2i.com.cn/w2itiyan/patch/ec_patch_1374-1394.cup

I'm still going through it but it contains a lot of the bits that were missing:

New Loading Screens

I also noticed a slew of small changes to the skill description file... I'm not sure how many are significant
Here they are side by side if someone needs to check something.
http://diffchecker.com/f2dx8td4

EDIT: Cleaner list of changes: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=JBivmaLz


I'm online there as AsterPWI atm if anyone else is.

EDIT: Saw a level 8 archer with a warsoul bow: http://imgur.com/GkAtdgz
Group 28 Bow is level 1 and can't be refined... http://i.imgur.com/rEmi4Px.png
New Skills don't show up in skill tree but I can see them in the ingame encyclopedia - e.g. cleric's omnibuff http://i.imgur.com/N0yqVL9.png
The trainer to teach the new skills is autopathing me to morai (which I can't enter)
All new gear seems to be level 1 or level 60 without anything interesting
No new gear recipes that I can find...

New Windows:
Level Rewards:
Cool instance guide http://i.imgur.com/FeOeDwa.png
UI Assistant http://i.imgur.com/GPWnn5z.png
In-game Botting interface http://i.imgur.com/roUT5FX.png
Auto-path actually walks around obstacles! Whats that in top right? http://imgur.com/s1mXf93
Some sort of card game??? http://i.imgur.com/gsX0VTw.png

I'm kinda running out of things to look at now... not sure what to do.

Eoria - Harshlands

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

I also noticed a slew of small changes to the skill description file... I'm not sure how many are significant
Here they are side by side if someone needs to check something.
http://diffchecker.com/f2dx8td4

Sigh. Throwing this in Google translate spits back a "too big to translate" error.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Sigh. Throwing this in Google translate spits back a "too big to translate" error.

It translated for me, I just hit translate, walked away for a few mins, and it was done.

Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear

I've been having a quick look at the skills so far, it doesn't look like the changes are tied directly to skills. At this point, the changes could very well be related to the reincarnation system. I'll keep on digging to see what I can scrounge up.

STrickeeN - Harshlands

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Right now!
They actually release another patch just before test server went live:
http://md2.w2i.com.cn/w2itiyan/patch/ec_patch_1374-1394.cup

I'm still going through it but it contains a lot of the bits that were missing:

New Loading Screens

I also noticed a slew of small changes to the skill description file... I'm not sure how many are significant
Here they are side by side if someone needs to check something.
http://diffchecker.com/f2dx8td4

I'm online there as AsterPWI atm if anyone else is.

EDIT: Saw a level 8 archer with a warsoul bow: http://imgur.com/GkAtdgz
Group 28 Bow is level 1 and can't be refined... http://i.imgur.com/rEmi4Px.png
New Skills don't show up in skill tree but I can see them in the ingame encyclopedia - e.g. cleric's omnibuff http://i.imgur.com/N0yqVL9.png

thank u for showing those screens, in loev with them, hope u keep updating us !!

Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear

After a deeper look, I firmly believe that most of the changes are related to the reincarnation.
Also, fascinating news for seekers: Like the BM's, we're also getting fused skills. Stay tuned for more info.

ChuuBR - Raging Tide

old devs b:dirtyb:dirtyb:dirty

Asterelle - Sanctuary

Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear wrote: »

After a deeper look, I firmly believe that most of the changes are related to the reincarnation.
Also, fascinating news for seekers: Like the BM's, we're also getting fused skills. Stay tuned for more info.

I tried my hand at organizing the latest skill changes. They added some new stuff.

Hopefully this is a bit easier
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=JBivmaLz

These are all things that are new / updated from the last go.

EDIT: Found the recipees to make the books: http://i.imgur.com/YzRFAqc.png
All classes have like 4 new books that come in 2 varieties (assuming demon / sage).
You need from 10 - 60 of the thing on the right and 1 of the thing on the left
The thing on the left is different for each book.
The NPC to make these books is autopathing me to Morai.

Also the skill books list 1 or 2 demon / sage skills as a prerequisite so that confirms these are Demon / Sage Level 2.

EDIT AGAIN:
That new archer skill is actually the merger of frost arrow + deadly shot.

ovenusarmanio

Auto-teaming sounds awesome. The more I look at the video, the more i'm convinced the new skills will only be changed if you're doing this new system. If it works like all of other ones have worked where you quest/get items for each specific skill, we may be able to choose whether or not to upgrade it. Which I really hope is the case. Not to happy about those spirit levels. Or the autobotting system, but we'll see how it is I suppose.

Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear

Breaking news for Seekers. You were not left out in the cold with only scraps to feed you. Enjoy:
==========================
New Seeker changes: 1-10 skills
The damage formula was changed to add more oomph to the 3 basic attacks.

Rock Splitting Cleave
Staggering Strike
Battousai

Inflict 110% base physical damage plus "x"% weapon damage plus "x" physical/magic damage.
==========================
More of a clarification thing:
Blood-thirsty Blitz

Health recovered is 20% of your max HP
==========================
Sage/Demon form
==========================

Rock Splitting Cleave

Inflict 110% base physical damage plus 100% weapon damage plus 1100 physical damage

Sage: Inflict an extra 550 physical damage
Demon: Has a 20% chance to return 50 Chi when cast.
==========================
Staggering Strike

Inflict 110% base physical damage plus 100% weapon damage plus 1716 physical damage

Sage: Reduces the cooldown by 1 second.
Demon: Reduces cast time by 0.2 seconds.
==========================

Battousai

Inflict 110% base physical damage plus 100% weapon damage plus 2750 metal damage.
Increases Threat.

Sage: Deals an additional 660 points of damage.
Demon: Recovers 5 extra Chi when cast.
==========================
Evolved/Reincarnate Skills
==========================

Rock Splitting Cleave

Inflict 110% base physical damage plus 100% weapon damage plus 1100 physical damage

50% chance to inflict the Spirit Bore status on the target.

20% chance to inflict the Bloodlet status on the enemy.

Sage: Increases bonus damage by 550.
Increases the chance to inflict the Spirit Bore status by 15%,
Has 5% greater chance to inflict the Bloodlet status.


Demon: Has a 20% chance to return 50 Chi when cast.
Stuns the target for 1 more second when the Bloodlet status is activated by ○Stalagstrike.
Decreases target's Attack and Defense level by 2 more levels when the Spirit Bore status is activated by ○Gemini Slash.
==========================
Staggering Strike

Inflict 110% base physical damage plus 100% weapon damage plus 1716 physical damage

30% chance to deal 2060 additional damage and immobilize the target for 3 seconds.
The target's Defense level is also decreased by 20 for 8 seconds.

Sage: Reduces the cooldown by 1 second.
Increases the effect trigger by 10%

Demon: Reduces cast time by 0.2 seconds.
Immoblizes the target for 1 more second when the effect is triggered.
==========================
Battousai

Inflict 110% base physical damage plus 100% weapon damage plus 2750 metal damage.

20% chance to inflict the 'Parried' status

Sage: Deals an additional 660 points of damage
Demon: Recovers 5 extra Chi when cast.
==========================
I know it's a lot to take in, but, this is what seems to be the case for me.
Going through the reincarnation process, to unlock the upgraded skills, will solve the issue of stances **** with the majority of bonus effects like Ion Spike and Heartseeker.
Ladies and Gentlemen; It took them long enough, but, they found a way to solve the stance problem.

EDIT: Quick note on the Seeker changes from earlier, most of them appeared near the same area that the evolved skills were found. I presume they too are evolved.

Bubbles - Morai

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Right now!
They actually release another patch just before test server went live:
http://md2.w2i.com.cn/w2itiyan/patch/ec_patch_1374-1394.cup

I'm still going through it but it contains a lot of the bits that were missing:

New Loading Screens

I also noticed a slew of small changes to the skill description file... I'm not sure how many are significant
Here they are side by side if someone needs to check something.
http://diffchecker.com/f2dx8td4


I'm online there as AsterPWI atm if anyone else is.

EDIT: Saw a level 8 archer with a warsoul bow: http://imgur.com/GkAtdgz
Group 28 Bow is level 1 and can't be refined... http://i.imgur.com/rEmi4Px.png
New Skills don't show up in skill tree but I can see them in the ingame encyclopedia - e.g. cleric's omnibuff http://i.imgur.com/N0yqVL9.png
The trainer to teach the new skills is autopathing me to morai (which I can't enter)
All new gear seems to be level 1 or level 60 without anything interesting
No new recipes that I can find...

New Windows:
Level Rewards:
Cool instance guide http://i.imgur.com/FeOeDwa.png
UI Assistant http://i.imgur.com/GPWnn5z.png
In-game Botting interface http://i.imgur.com/roUT5FX.png
Auto-path actually walks around obstacles! Whats that in top right? http://imgur.com/s1mXf93


I'm kinda running out of things to look at now... not sure what to do.

Neat.

Looks like some of the translations were correct.

I won't be able to do much here until late tomorrow. Busy busy. b:surrender

Euthymius - Heavens Tear

I see a change to Aqua Canon and the new(?) earth skill (it could be spirit blast...not sure)
Here' s Aqua Impact

Sage Aqua Impact
Cast from 28.5 m
Consumption infuriating 320
Sing time of 0.5 seconds
Cast time 1.2 seconds <faster by .3 seconds
Cooldown 2.0 seconds <faster by 1 second

Release a blast of water at your target dealing damage equal
to your base magic attack as well as 100% weapon damage and
3573 (stronger) Water damage. Has a 40% chance to slow
the target by 40% for 8 seconds.


New Effect: If the target is the monster, critical hits from skills is increased by 15%.

Slows target by 50%. "


Demon Aqua Impact
Cast from 28.5 m
Consumption infuriating 320
Sing time of 0.5 seconds
Cast time 1.2 seconds <faster by .3 seconds
Cooldown 2.0 seconds <faster by 1 second


Release a blast of water at your target dealing damage equal
to your base magic attack as well as 100% weapon damage and
3573 (stronger) Water damage. Has a 40% chance to slow
the target by 40% for 8 seconds.

New effect: If the target is a monster, critical hits from skills is increased by 15%.

Upon hit, has a 20% chance to reduce target's Chi by 30.

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Asterelle - Sanctuary

Some sort of card game? http://i.imgur.com/gsX0VTw.png b:question

EDIT: it's related to something in your player info window too
http://i.imgur.com/qmyGRsP.png

EDIT2: My guess is that you collect the cards and pick some to equip for stat points

Eoria - Harshlands

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Some sort of card game? http://i.imgur.com/gsX0VTw.png b:question

Just what I always wanted to play in an MMO: a children's card game.

@Euthy- I'll take a look at it.

Edit- I believe this is it~

Spirit Blast:

Channel　0.6　 second(s)
Cast　1.2　 second(s)
Cooldown　2.0　 second(s)
Weapon　Soulsphere

Required Spiritual Cultivation　Aware of the Myriad
Use the spirit of the land to blast the enemy for your
base magic attack with 100% weapon damage
and 4363 Earth damage.

If the target is a monster, then the earth damage is 7272.

Sage~ Gain 15 chi.
Demon~ Additional damage increased by 500.

Euthymius - Heavens Tear

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Just what I always wanted to play in an MMO: a children's card game.

@Euthy- I'll take a look at it.

Edit- I believe this is it~

Spirit Blast:

Channel　0.6　 second(s)
Cast　1.2　 second(s)
Cooldown　2.0　 second(s)
Weapon　Soulsphere

Required Spiritual Cultivation　Aware of the Myriad
Use the spirit of the land to blast the enemy for your
base magic attack with 100% weapon damage
and 4363 Earth damage.

If the target is a monster, then the earth damage is 7272.

Sage~ Gain 15 chi.
Demon~ Additional damage increased by 500.

Eeyup, just got it too

Can't figure out the others, though.

Bubbles - Morai

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Just what I always wanted to play in an MMO: a children's card game.

Not as ridiculous as playing children's card games on motorcycles. b:avoid

RoidAbuse - Sanctuary

I was looking through what Ast. posted, doesn't seem like there's a long CD on barb HP buff.

Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear

RoidAbuse - Sanctuary wrote: »

I was looking through what Ast. posted, doesn't seem like there's a long CD on barb HP buff.

Definitely looks that way, I'll need to do a clean up on the barb skills to make it more accurate.
EDIT: same thing probably goes for BM's too.

Eoria - Harshlands

Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Can't figure out the others, though.

I'll leave BM/barb/sin/seeker to Lunari since he was the one that translated those.

As for mystic, just seems Swirling Mist got it's CD increased to 15sec due to now being AOE. There's also a skill description for Devil Chihyu, but nothing's changed from current level 11 except text at the bottom that basically says it's "basic properties" (stats?) were improved. So it might be tankier/deal more damage, I guess?

Wizard skill is entirely new, I think. I'll work on that one.

Edit- New wizard skill~

Frost Flame (new skill?):

Channel Time 2.0 seconds
Cast Time 1.8 seconds
Cooldown 30 seconds
Get 30 chi from using this skill

Causes damage equal to base magic attack, 800% weapon damage, and 9779 damage.

I believe there are different effects based on which shield you are using (either Pyroshell/Glacial Embrace).

Glacial Embrace effect- Reduction of something (doesn't specify what; it's probably a slow) by 80% for 6 seconds.
Pyroshell effect- 50% chance to stun target for 3 seconds.

Sage~ Reduces target's water defense by 20% for 15 seconds.
Demon~ Stun chance increased to 60%.

Adroit - Lost City

A few friends were looking at some of the new skills from http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=JBivmaLz.. and came across an improved headhunt?

Assassin-
NEW SECTION
23660 "Black & divinity prison."
23661 "Black & divinity prison

Cast from 4.5 m
Consumption infuriating 290
Preparation time 0.4 seconds
Cast time 2.5 seconds
Cooldown 30.0 seconds
Restricted weapons Dagger

Comprehension of the requirements of real fairy
Madness-like batter that will stun the enemy for 6 seconds, making them
Total equivalent basis to attach 750% physical attack power
Attack power equipment 14994 Physical damage and
10 seconds movement speed reduced by 60%

Cast requires two real dollars

After the skills cast a 50% chance to return a little true
Million. "


Headhunt going from 100% wep dmg -> 750% and 8k -> 15k static damage? Someone please tell me I can't read.

Asterelle - Sanctuary

Bah Archers are getting totally screwed out of this update.

1) 2 spark aoe slow thats combination of deadly shot and frost arrow. Cause I really want to spend 2 sparks slowing people. Let's throw a 3 minute cooldown on it too to guarantee it being worthless.
2) A vicious arrow that will tick for 400 damage instead of 200 damage. So scary!
3) Wingspan that is now 2 meters bigger area. Yay? Archer is now so good at melee!
4) Winged Shell can now absorb 500 more damage which doesn't matter anyway because it will still pop in 1 hit from everything. We're still stuck with a 45 chi defense charm while other classes get stupidly good pdef buffs.

They basically took skills no archer ever uses and slightly buff them but not enough to make them at all viable.

That's 3 expansions in a row where archers got shafted. Why are people saying these devs know what they are doing?

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Bah Archers are getting totally screwed out of this update.

1) 2 spark aoe slow thats combination of deadly shot and frost arrow. Cause I really want to spend 2 sparks slowing people. Let's throw a 3 minute cooldown on it too to guarantee it being worthless.
2) A vicious arrow that will tick for 400 damage instead of 200 damage. So scary!
3) Wingspan that is now 2 meters bigger area. Yay? Archer is now so good at melee!
4) Winged Shell can now absorb 500 more damage which doesn't matter anyway because it will still pop in 1 hit from everything. We're still stuck with a 45 chi defense charm while other classes get stupidly good pdef buffs.

They basically took skills no archer ever uses and slightly buff them but not enough to make them at all viable.

That's 3 expansions in a row where archers got shafted. Why are people saying these devs know what they are doing?

And what/when exactly did assassins get in any expansion at all that is useful?
It's all about the casters!

I do have to admit that rib strike looks absolutely rediculous in terms of damage, which will make it the hardest hitting skill a sin can have... which is absolutely... not making any sense at all.
Then again, most assassins don't even know what the current hardest hitting skill is b:chuckle

Though the other skill with the 3 second freeze(?) seems like tackling slash that hits harder(?), but only freezes 3 seconds instead of 9...

inb4 but assassins are op, aps, nerf nerf, qq.

also, offtopic but... what happened to your postcount O_o

Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear

Barb changes. Yeah, unless otherwise stated, the changes are related to the evolved/reincarnated skills:
=======================

Beast King's Inspiration

Channel 0.7 seconds
Cast 1.8 seconds
Cooldown 2 minutes

As it turns out, the increased cooldown is for the evolved version. Can't tell you why that is, only real change is they shifted 0.2 seconds off the cast and onto the channeling. Goes without saying: if it's optional, stay the hell away from it.
=======================
Stomp of the Beast King

Inflicts base physical damage plus 5266 damage.
If the target is a player, a debuff is applied:
For 6 seconds, skill damage is increased by 8%, this effect can stack up to 5 times.

The debuff decreased from 10% to 8%. That's pretty much it.

========================
Beastial Onslaught

Demon: Crit rate has gone up to 40%. That's it.
========================
Berserker's Wrath/Rage

Imma have to say my bad on this one.
Turns out they were actually describing the fact they were gonna nerf the **** out of the 1st/"Rage" Version. The 2nd/Wrath version remains the same, well there's an extra 100MP on top, but, maybe that was already on there.

Berserker's Rage

Attack all enemies within 20 meters of the target, dealing 40% of base physical damage.
Has a chance to knock flying enemies to the ground and prevent them from flying for 18 seconds.
You deal triple damage to targets in the air. The chance to ground opponents is approximately 70%.
The minimum success rate is 50% and the maximum success rate is 90%.
100 percent accuracy.

Has no effect on enemies 5 levels higher than you.

Cannot use while flying.
Costs 2 Sparks.
==========================
Everything else mentioned on my previous Barb post seems to match up.
So... Might not be so bad. Only time will tell on how reincarnated skills will work.
I'll update the skills on my original post, save the hunt for this post.

Eoria - Harshlands

I feel like archers are a class they have to be really careful about buffing because if you give them too much of a buff, they will just completely dominate both 1v1 and mass pvp (where as, now it's archers are probably the worst 1v1 class and one of the, if not the, best mass pvp classes). Sins would also have this problem if they weren't so straight-up 1v1 based and thus kinda useless half the time in mass pvp.

That being said, they have quite a few skills that are either in dire need of a buff (Winged Shell) or just a complete remake (Vicious/Serrated/Deadly). ****, they could just remake Blazing+Frost+Vicious+Serrated Arrows into something a la seeker stances or what they seem to try to be doing with wizzzie barriers and just have those as attack buffs with special effects for certain skills depending on what you have activated at the moment. b:shutup

ObviousAlt - Raging Tide

i would rather they change blessing of the condor to be more like sin skill demon focused mind.. same duration and cool down as blessing of the condor..

so it would be 6 sec of demon focused mind with 3min cool down

would make that skill more useful

Man - Raging Tide

I will have to disagree about the new archer skill,

It will have 20% chance to deal 2.6x base archer dmg ++

Meaning if the amp procs it will be one of the hardest hitting archer skill, and the 1.5 second time of amp might be long enough to get 1 auto attack off after.

Sounds like all killer no filler!

Asterelle - Sanctuary

Man - Raging Tide wrote: »

I will have to disagree about the new archer skill,

It will have 20% chance to deal 2.6x base archer dmg ++

Meaning if the amp procs it will be one of the hardest hitting archer skill, and the 1.5 second time of amp might be long enough to get 1 auto attack off after.

Sounds like all killer no filler!

I don't think it deals added damage if it procs. I think it just applies the ice prison debuff for 1.5s. 2 sparks for a 20% chance of doing something useful every 3 minutes doesnt sound good to me. That's 10 sparks on average per proc for a 1.5s debuff? I don't see that working out.

<rant>Looking at the crappy vicious arrow it's pretty clear these devs have no idea how DoTs work.

Consider a sin's base damage is like 700% weapon damage and so a basic zerk crit would be at least 2800% weapon damage. Factoring in added skill damage / wolf emblem / chill and you get like 4500% in one attack.

These genious devs are giving vicious arrow 600% but making sure that has no chance to crit and spreading out that damage over 10 seconds just in case you were worried about it.

For a DoT to be viable it would really need around 6000% weapon attack (like 4k damage a tick). That might make someone with 20k+ hp back off and try to purify the dot instead of just ignore it like they do now.

This souped up vicious arrow is still a factor of 10 too small for anyone to bother with it. Factoring in crit this improved vicious is less than half of my base damage spread out over 10s.

Ohh and also you won't have any chance to purge with this skill.

Why are the devs pushing archers to use crappy skills when they can't even get our R9 weapon proc to work with them?</rant>