Things that annoy you in-game...

D_u_s_t_y - Archosaur

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

people who think everything needs a high lvl to be done.

^ this (+100000)

Colum - Raging Tide

Also high lvl people who get butthurt when they get told that one wants rather a BH squad of his own lvls, not a 10x to solo it.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

Also high lvl people who get butthurt when they get told that one wants rather a BH squad of his own lvls, not a 10x to solo it.

Heh, yeah that one is pretty funny. Most are pretty nice about it but some get kinda mad you won't let them help.

"BH51 pm me class/level"

"Invite"

"Class/level?"

"101 BM"

"Too high level, sorry."

"FOR BH51!!!! LMAO yeah okay."

"just wanna do it with bh levels."

"pfft. good luck with that"

BTW, yes, yes you are too high level for it. That's why you kill everything like ti's nothing.

Colum - Raging Tide

Now im very annoyed by people who mock tabber because he doesnt speak english.

Luckily I and one other found out he speaks french and we adviced him, he was very happy with it.

Pressa - Heavens Tear

I don't understand why it would even be an issue to provide wine if your not the squad leader. IT IS NOT THE SQUAD LEADERS JOB TO PROVIDE WINE..........stupid. I am usually more then happy to provide wine but you know sometimes I am just broke or you know don't wanna log out to go get the paltry sum of cash it takes to pay a split I mean seriously its less then 200k for BOTH wines >.> I can understand if your a low level its an issue but lets face it most of us AREN'T a low level we are on alts.

I've actually tried sending cash from my main afterwards that gets met with so much resistance I just don't bother so yeah. So my suggestion is either deal with it unwined or wine it if I don't have the cash at that moment I don't have the freakin cash.

Zarriah - Raging Tide

I was on my Psychic a couple days ago about to do BH69, and the cleric offered to buy the wine and keep drops. The sin, however, (who was her friend I think) kept saying 'No no its too much, I'll make wine and we split fee.' She said buying the wine was no problem, probably 6 times, but he was persistent with it. Rest of squad said If she wants to buy, freaking let her. Idk why he wanted to split the fee so badly. I haven't paid a wine fee in over a year now. o.o

Cathulion - Dreamweaver

Zarriah - Raging Tide wrote: »

I was on my Psychic a couple days ago about to do BH69, and the cleric offered to buy the wine and keep drops. The sin, however, (who was her friend I think) kept saying 'No no its too much, I'll make wine and we split fee.' She said buying the wine was no problem, probably 6 times, but he was persistent with it. Rest of squad said If she wants to buy, freaking let her. Idk why he wanted to split the fee so badly. I haven't paid a wine fee in over a year now. o.o

I've never ever paid a wine fee. Either formed BH or didn't bother. I also used to buy the wines a lot myself too for drops only, I never once charged a fee either.

Zarriah - Raging Tide

I paid wine fees maybe my first year of playing, and even then it was rare. Maybe once every couple of months. But now its practically non-existant, thankfully. I always found it really annoying. Idk what his deal was, but he finally just let the cleric buy. He seemed annoyed afterwards though and didn't speak the rest of the BH

Paulrogers - Harshlands

Poorly geared people, usually clerics demanding 5 aps people only for nirvana squads they're forming... makes me sit there and think, wow you ****ing hypocrite b:angry lol

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

Zarriah - Raging Tide wrote: »

I paid wine fees maybe my first year of playing, and even then it was rare. Maybe once every couple of months. But now its practically non-existant, thankfully. I always found it really annoying. Idk what his deal was, but he finally just let the cleric buy. He seemed annoyed afterwards though and didn't speak the rest of the BH

He wanted a chance at the drops. If there is a wine fee, then the molds/3 stars aren't gonna be given to the winer, they are random. Considering that it's 2x, there is a better chance than usual that a mold will drop. More than likely that's the real reason he was mad. Also why the cleric so adamantly refused his money, more than likely.

AliceAdams - Lost City

Just remember that if it weren't for Duke, we wouldn't have the assault on arch every few weeksb:surrender

My biggest annoyance I think...

Sins.

And yes, I am one.

Examples of sins that annoy me:

In a lvl 8x frost squad, you have 3 sins, a cleric, and 2 DD's. The sins try to run through like you would with a 101 sin leading the way. They die because none of them are strong enough to keep the aggro of the shades and mobs. And no one else can get to them fast enough to help, because they all shadow jumped there and ALL the mobs are still alive. The rest die because they were left to deal with groups of mobs they can't handle.

Folks, if you are doing a SQUAD frost, and there are people that aren't sins, move together as a SQUAD. You'll get done a lot faster and there will be fewer deaths.

Another example is the 101 sin that "helped" with a 79 run. He was in too much of a hurry. The cleric almost didn't make it in time for the first boss to die. Then this jerk holy path/windpush/maze steps all the way to the final room and doesn't bother to kill the random mobs on his way there. I died because I was blindsided by a mob. Then he almost died because he expected the cleric to bb right away instead of group heal. Group heal should've been more than enough IMHO.

Sins.
Wut r u doin?
Sins.
Stahp!

Oh and Cube of Fate. I hate you Cube of Fate. I hope someone kills you with fire.

I'm annoyed that the Event Boutique hasn't been updated.

I'm annoyed with tanks that refuse to tank.

I'm annoyed that I keep hearing I'll never get into squads for certain things because of my class.

I'm annoyed that other people never get into squads because of their class (not just sins).

krisnda

AliceAdams - Lost City wrote: »

I'm annoyed that other people never get into squads because of their class (not just sins).

This.

AliceAdams - Lost City

From what I've heard, Archers are the most neglected class in the game. No one wants them, and few want to be them.

It's sad, because their evasion buff is lovely, and in a full interval gear set, they are almost as OP as Sins. With the added bonus of killing you at 50 paces Wild West styleb:chuckle

Hrm....

*runs off to start an archer*

kawaiijen

AliceAdams - Lost City wrote: »

From what I've heard, Archers are the most neglected class in the game. No one wants them, and few want to be them.

It's sad, because their evasion buff is lovely, and in a full interval gear set, they are almost as OP as Sins. With the added bonus of killing you at 50 paces Wild West styleb:chuckle

Hrm....

*runs off to start an archer*

Close. We are almost tied for dead last with venos. They are more neglected then us still. Though when this revamp of skills comes I wonder what the transition will be. (InB4 Demon archers start switching to sage)

krisnda

KawaiiJen wrote: »

Close. We are almost tied for dead last with venos. They are more neglected then us still. Though when this revamp of skills comes I wonder what the transition will be. (InB4 Demon archers start switching to sage)

Sage amp is somewhat useful in NV.

But what do I know, I don't do WC squads. b:cute

Cathulion - Dreamweaver

I don't think archers will ever get a place again in society for nirvana unless they get fist/claw mastery(Would still be on low popularity without BP, makes it weak on survival being LA).

As for venos, as more time goes on the more they will eventually become like archers for nirvana. Nirvana is becoming a BM/Sin-only dungeon.

krisnda

Cathulion - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I don't think archers will ever get a place again in society for nirvana unless they get fist/claw mastery(Would still be on low popularity without BP, makes it weak on survival being LA).

As for venos, as more time goes on the more they will eventually become like archers for nirvana. Nirvana is becoming a BM/Sin-only dungeon.

If only Fox Form was more useful.

kawaiijen

Cathulion - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I don't think archers will ever get a place again in society for nirvana unless they get fist/claw mastery(Would still be on low popularity without BP, makes it weak on survival being LA).

As for venos, as more time goes on the more they will eventually become like archers for nirvana. Nirvana is becoming a BM/Sin-only dungeon.

On a positive note. At least we are useful in the most enjoyable part of the game. TW. (Referring to both Venos and archers)

Sins become almost useless thanks to bramble and their lowly refined gear and highly refined weapon. b:chuckle

Veno's will never become like archers in nirvana because they still got purge and amp. And they can do caster nirvana. And tbh a bow archer hits harder then claw archers as well as most aps bms. b:chuckle

I can't count the amount of times I steal agro in nirvana with people if I'm not careful with my sparks b:chuckle

KingCrash - Dreamweaver

The class prejudice is very annoying. I like squading with archers personally. Mainly in delta where they can use their barrage and I can use vortex and just cause tons of damage to everything. The agro war is priceless.

Cathulion - Dreamweaver

Krisnda wrote: »

If only Fox Form was more useful.

I'm creating a demon APS HA veno in hopes of being able to have fun as a veno again and yet be able to run nirvana when I don't feel like using my bm or sin. Demon Bramble+Amplify should be able to get me a lot of squads for sure once I get the hang of unequipping claws->debuffing->equip weapons->spark and hit.

KawaiiJen wrote: »

On a positive note. At least we are useful in the most enjoyable part of the game. TW. (Referring to both Venos and archers)

Sins become almost useless thanks to bramble and their lowly refined gear and highly refined weapon. b:chuckle

Veno's will never become like archers in nirvana because they still got purge and amp. And they can do caster nirvana. And tbh a bow archer hits harder then claw archers as well as most aps bms. b:chuckle

I can't count the amount of times I steal agro in nirvana with people if I'm not careful with my sparks b:chuckle

I hear pure r9 archers damage output does outdamage aps, but that's respectively r9 which most don't have. And also depending on what claws you use(stats)/refines. If your using G16 +12 w/ physical attack +w/e and interval you'll outdamage most bms and sins since a lot of them use deicides/nirvana claws if your base/boosted stats support it.

kawaiijen

Cathulion - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'm creating a demon APS HA veno in hopes of being able to have fun as a veno again and yet be able to run nirvana when I don't feel like using my bm or sin. Demon Bramble+Amplify should be able to get me a lot of squads for sure once I get the hang of unequipping claws->debuffing->equip weapons->spark and hit.



I hear pure r9 archers damage output does outdamage aps, but that's respectively r9 which most don't have. And also depending on what claws you use(stats)/refines. If your using G16 +12 w/ physical attack +w/e and interval you'll outdamage most bms and sins since a lot of them use deicides/nirvana claws.

Eh even without R9 the archer should be doing quite similiar damage with their bow. We can easily get 3 sparks in a row per boss rotating apoth and genie skills and a 4th if we use awaken (which cooldown sucks atm but is getting revamped)

And of equal gear an archer will NEVER out dps a sin on single target.

krisnda

Cathulion - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'm creating a demon APS HA veno in hopes of being able to have fun as a veno again and yet be able to run nirvana when I don't feel like using my bm or sin. Demon Bramble+Amplify should be able to get me a lot of squads for sure once I get the hang of unequipping claws->debuffing->equip weapons->spark and hit.

I went sage for the extra melee att/phy def in FF.

I wish I could use it.

I'm actually thinking about doing something like this, but I'd have to merchant my butt off which I would but there's like no time. How much do you think your going to wind up spending (on armor/reset/weapon/etc?)

AliceAdams - Lost City

Odd, I thought venos were fairly popular and well received in most squads...

And I thought of something else that annoys the hell out of me (like that's a surprise).

90% of all rewards and events are level based.

In other words, if you're not 100+, you get **** rewards.

If you're 99 and below, you mostly get rewards that will only give you experience, which I suppose is to help you get to 100 faster, but kinda doesn't work that way. The experience rewards tend to be so low they barely make a dent at certain levels (fantasy fruit. I hate you fantasy fruit.)

100+ get constant rewards of ecstasy and excitement cards, as well various other GOOD rewards that are financially profitable.

It's almost like the game itself is saying, "Why aren't you lvl 100 yet?"

The problem is that those rewards of coins and high value items would be far better to the 99 and below crowd that otherwise has problems acquiring money. What's the point in leveling up if you can't afford the gear and skill costs for that level?

I guess I don't understand why everyone does the same amount of work (more or less), but only certain people get good rewards.

Tiger Event is a good example:

You start at level 30. You get the same exact rewards for 70 levels. The only difference is that maybe you rank higher once in a while and get insignias instead of shards. Once you hit level 100, the rewards change and you have a chance at money cards.

These rewards should be split up a bit better. Maybe 30-49, 50-69, 70-89, 90+. If skill books become available at 89, and tend to be expensive, there should be more cash rewards at or near that level. I don't think it'd really kill this game to offer 100k on a BH quest. Or 15k on a Divine quest. Or 200k on a Paperclip quest.

ETA: My conclusion of this TLDR is that if rewards are going to be level based, actually make them level based. Right now it's kinda hurr durr.

Cathulion - Dreamweaver

Krisnda wrote: »

I went sage for the extra melee att/phy def in FF.

I wish I could use it.

I'm actually thinking about doing something like this, but I'd have to merchant my butt off which I would but there's like no time. How much do you think your going to wind up spending (on armor/reset/weapon/etc?)

I've farmed the money for the HA gear in nirvana all this x2 long. I got the gold today to restat with $$. Only thing remains is to get her from 72 to 100 after x2. My BM has +8 Deicides already so weapons good.

krisnda

Cathulion - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I've farmed the money for the HA gear in nirvana all this x2 long. I got the gold today to restat with $$. Only thing remains is to get her from 72 to 100 after x2. My BM has +8 Deicides already so weapons good.

Hmm, this is something for me to think about...b:cute

Cathulion - Dreamweaver

Krisnda wrote: »

Hmm, this is something for me to think about...b:cute

The greatest challenges will be pulling off these combos:

Unequip Wep->Cloud Eruption->Bramblehood->Claws, with enough DD time on aps

Unequip wep->Fox form->Amplify Damage->(A purge every now and then on skeleton nirvy boss)->Transform to human->Spark->Hit

Both in the same fights in adequate APS time remaining.

krisnda

Cathulion - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The greatest challenges will be pulling off these combos:

Unequip Wep->Cloud Eruption->Bramblehood->Claws, with enough DD time on aps

Unequip wep->Fox form->Amplify Damage->(A purge every now and then on skeleton nirvy boss)->Transform to human->Spark->Hit

Both in the same fights in adequate APS time remaining.

The greatest challenge will be getting people to accept you in squads.

(unless this doesn't apply to you xD)

Also you'd have less to worry about without Hood, why not just spark and use AD (or something) if needed?

Cathulion - Dreamweaver

Krisnda wrote: »

The greatest challenge will be getting people to accept you in squads.

(unless this doesn't apply to you xD)

Also you'd have less to worry about without Hood, why not just spark and use AD (or something) if needed?

I have my wifey and lots of APS friends I run with and they aren't obsessed with the common ideals of "We need a +10" or "We need OHF". Any people like that I ignore, it's stupidity.

And how would Spark+AD work out as good as bramble hood? Bramble hood returning 200% damage to attacker would do somewhat massive damage back(On top of my APS 3.33/4.0 when I get pangu) if I'm the main tank as well as reduce incoming damage 75%. Then I'll have to strategize when I can rebramble my self depending if there is a cleric on team healing or not.

krisnda

Cathulion - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I have my wifey and lots of APS friends I run with and they aren't obsessed with the common ideals of "We need a +10" or "We need OHF". Any people like that I ignore, it's stupidity.

And how would Spark+AD work out as good as bramble hood? Bramble hood returning 200% damage to attacker would do somewhat massive damage back(On top of my APS 3.33/4.0 when I get pangu) if I'm the main tank as well as reduce incoming damage 75%. Then I'll have to strategize when I can rebramble my self depending if there is a cleric on team healing or not.

Ah, you didn't mention anything about being the main tank, that's why I asked. And I agree, that is stupidity.

kawaiijen

Hey now don't hijack this thread take it to pms you two :P