New Expansion in CN

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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    As long as FC exists and people have no reason to leave instances/safezone, pvp server will stay dead no matter what they do. Even if world questing and grinding was needed again, the gap in gears are much too large for those amazing hrs long 40 vs 40 world pk to return. One R9 can take out a whole squad and more of avg geared ppl of same level, and that gets boring fast. Then you'll have many who reached the level cap already doing noting but camp and one shot grinders, which kills the spontaneous part of world pk. I was lucky enough to run into some random pk on my 7x pay, and for the ironic reason that I was grinding mobs to get use to my hotkey setups. I was having a blast fighting a couple of people I'be never met or expected to fight. It was infinitely more fun than those sad and boring pk sessions at west gate or silverpool. After all, the reason I left pve server was because point died down to a few spots on the map, and now pvp servers are staring to look like that.

    The only way to fix it is to have a couple of "pw classic" server, pre hyper, pre frost, pre packs, pre TB and stay that way. You'll see more of the old player base to come back then.
  • kanel321
    kanel321 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    If you have been around for a while you would know that PWI and the Chinese devs don't really communicate all that well.

    For instance it takes someone like Korren to go and gather the info from their site. The staff at PWI will never grab info there or ask for translations.

    When the expansion does come out watch how long it will take for just basic info to come to this site. Eventually they will throw up a site for the expansion but by then ppl like korren will have translated everything and the info will be redundant and nowhere near to the info PWI-CN has.

    Sadly if the relationship between PWI and the Chinese dev's hasn't improved over the years I have been playing I don't think it ever will .
  • chaoticshelly
    chaoticshelly Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    I just saw Shelly D: but she seems to be **** because she was posting nonsense.

    Huh? b:puzzled
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  • Sir_Puma - Raging Tide
    Sir_Puma - Raging Tide Posts: 780 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Fintan - Lost City wrote: »
    If it's the post I'm thinking of, it's not nonsense. It's just not one would expect from someone who would seemingly want to stay in the good graces of PWE. Considering that they won't even let me open tickets anymore (including multiple billing issues now which make me more than hesitant to charge more), I have apparently fallen out of PWE's graces soooo...

    My theory as to why PWE isn't actually saying much (er, anything) about this expansion is that CN has actually managed to rebalance things such that it will cause the "Join PWI, charge $2000, quit from boredom 2 months later" players to not join in the first place. PWE never figured out that smaller sustainable income over the very long term from a larger number of players is probably a better strategy for a better game than what they're doing lately.

    If the expansion as planned now manages to bring out gear that is farmable and is somewhere between R8 and R9 at least on some servers (e.g. PvE), that will seriously cramp their rep sales. If the expansion brings items in-game which are currently pack-only items, that will hurt pack sales (and not things like "Cube Tokens for Crab Meat"...). If the expansion rebalances skills so that the PvP balance is thrown out of skew, the people charging and hypering to 100 and quitting will not live out their cycle and throw their income out of whack. If the expansion nerfs APS to something where Heaven's Wrath is no longer a bad thing to use for a high-level squad (currently it's only "useful" between level 59 when we get it and about 90 when people start out-APSing it, and that's when most players now are in Frost, nevermind when you get the Frost quest [that's another rant...]), we'll see APS ragequits because people will have to restat to be effective.

    See where that's going? There's lots of things that the devs can do that would probably cause PWE to feel warmth in their pants. Many of those things would actually be beneficial to the game overall, rather than for a subset of players. In fact, a large number are exactly what people have been demanding for some time. With any luck, we'll see the majority of them in the expansion and then PWE would have a hope of reclaiming heavy cash-shoppers who have since left the game for reasons which have been rehashed on the forum ad infinitum. With awesome luck, PWI will manage to be a top-tier F2P MMORPG again, gaining new long-term players to fund ongoing enhancements to the game. And with obscene luck, PWRD will stop tanking (glad I don't own shares of it right now, as it keeps setting new 52-week lows and analysts don't seem to think much of their flagship game's state nor the shrinking player/cash base...) so we can continue to play this game for many more years.

    Basically, PWE really needs to have a huge shift in terms of how they approach their games, and more importantly, their players. From the Chinese teaser site, it seems that China (the devs, at least) know what we keep asking for and are trying to provide it. The lack of early fanfare from PWE (aside from a telling image they had very recently) indicates that they are either working on a HUGE announcement or that they are pushing back against most of the changes.

    Seeing as how PWE has been looking like it's trying to enter the sewage reclamation industry lately with how it keeps regurgitating the same **** over and over and hoping we keep buy it, I have no hopes on them doing "the right thing" in regards to this expansion. Their internal policies which prevent them from actually communicating with their users beyond "We appreciate your willingness to make the game better, but due to company policies..." responses need to be addressed. Some of us run companies within spitting distance of PWE's offices which would gladly consult with PWE with playerbase concerns, for instance. Even better would be actually having 24/7 GM staffing in-game on all servers with the GMs accessible to players, as this would give PWE ongoing firsthand experience of the playerbase's concerns (far more than the vocal minority which are on the forum, and even that number appears to be dwindling...) and would allow them to aggregate data internally far more effectively.

    But yeah. This is my rant. From what I've seen on the Chinese site, I really want this expansion. From what I've been seeing out of PWE, I really don't. We shall see, eh?


    I agree with like 95% of what u said. I am also excited to see what next expansion brings, just feel sad that PWE indeed seems leaning toward the "we won'T say but we mainly want cs'ers to stay, if u don't pay, either play 24/24 or find something more suitable"

    Like u said, guess we'll see..

    Now anymore skills descriptions coming up to go back on main subject ?
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  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    ChaoticShelly wrote: »
    Huh? b:puzzled

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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    anymore new skill vids? :x
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  • Ikarium - Dreamweaver
    Ikarium - Dreamweaver Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    anymore new skill vids? :x
    You can cycle through a bunch if you have the patience to deal with wanmeis site (click thru to one . I watched a few that haven't been linked to these forums yet. The site is terrible laggy for me.

    Click thru to here : http://w2i.wanmei.com/#mifachuanshuo_10

    Thats the page for the new skills. The left side is the different races/classes.

    If you've already seen this page, sorry for repeating it :O
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Ikarium - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You can cycle through a bunch if you have the patience to deal with wanmeis site (click thru to one . I watched a few that haven't been linked to these forums yet. The site is terrible laggy for me.

    Click thru to here : http://w2i.wanmei.com/#mifachuanshuo_10

    Thats the page for the new skills. The left side is the different races/classes.

    If you've already seen this page, sorry for repeating it :O
    yeah i already seen those xD

    god i dunno why they insist on using flash for every single button on that new site its so irritating and mega slow and my pc is literally new >.>

    i just noticed that the new weapons for psy look like baby dragon fetus's <.<
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  • GohRaL - Sanctuary
    GohRaL - Sanctuary Posts: 883 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Tekril - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Awww, look! He's trying again! That's adorable.

    "Look daddy! I'm acting tuff!"

    lol keep it up, you might actually impress someone some day. b:bye


    *tears in the eye while wearing proud father face mask* Look at him, he's growing up...


    Oh god how fast time runs...






    Btw it looks like barbs will get a fking range skill, woot. About time they gave us some more range ability (still waiting for aggro fix patch)
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  • Ceiba - Sanctuary
    Ceiba - Sanctuary Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    This thread needs a bump. b:chuckle
  • Vital_Slash - Sanctuary
    Vital_Slash - Sanctuary Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    this is great!!! Now Underpowered classes can make a comeba- oh no?....ofc not..aps is still the best/worst thing that happened to the game...long story short...Make a BM or sin and get with it :S

    Anyways...Shouldn't Mystics/Seekers/Psys/Sins be excluded as the classes getting new skills too?..I thought the Skills were for the Oringinal Classes...you know...Human+Untamed+Elves?
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  • Northern - Dreamweaver
    Northern - Dreamweaver Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Why isn't anyone talking about the new sin skills?....I want..Barrage of daggers.....
  • Heartz - Dreamweaver
    Heartz - Dreamweaver Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Northern - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Why isn't anyone talking about the new sin skills?....I want..Barrage of daggers.....

    sins can go glitch out and never be able to log inb:angry

    ok xD. on a serious note, no sins do not really need more skills.. they op enough
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    New passive skill for all 105 glitchers, as soon as you move you die b:victory
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  • Barunaa - Heavens Tear
    Barunaa - Heavens Tear Posts: 420 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    is there any info on what ALL of the skills for each class does?
  • Bubbles - Morai
    Bubbles - Morai Posts: 1,143 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Barunaa - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    is there any info on what ALL of the skills for each class does?

    Use your common sense; if there isn't a detailed post on skills, translated or not, that information is not available yet.


    Also, another class page has been released for barbs.
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited November 2011
    Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »
    Use your common sense; if there isn't a detailed post on skills, translated or not, that information is not available yet.


    Also, another class page has been released for barbs.

    Interesting... according to Google barbs are getting some air-only skills?b:puzzled

    </3 Google Engrish.b:surrender
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  • Zgod - Lost City
    Zgod - Lost City Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Woot air only skills ^-^ for all of them flying kitties... Gonna be raining pandas and tigers
  • ObviousAlt - Raging Tide
    ObviousAlt - Raging Tide Posts: 655 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Guys even if Archers get stealth skill.. sins will still be able to see them duh..
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  • Ruvil - Sanctuary
    Ruvil - Sanctuary Posts: 382 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    not me b:avoid

    105 gives lvl 11 cat like tread!
  • ObviousAlt - Raging Tide
    ObviousAlt - Raging Tide Posts: 655 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    i highly doubt they would make archer stealth the same way sins stealth is
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    ChaoticShelly wrote: »
    Huh? b:puzzled
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    3 year old bugs not being fixed while new, glitchiest content is being released.

    b:shocked
  • X_Rays - Sanctuary
    X_Rays - Sanctuary Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    The animations of the new skills do not fit well with the styles of old classes. For example, BM's skill becomes as flashy as Seeker's skills. Cleric's skill looks cool, but it's way too intimidating for a healer. Also, it seems that BM gets sealed after casting the new skill...b:cry
  • Fintan - Lost City
    Fintan - Lost City Posts: 1,245 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    X_Rays - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Cleric's skill looks cool, but it's way too intimidating for a healer.

    Maybe we'll go back to being more than "just a healer" finally... b:bye
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited November 2011
    Fintan - Lost City wrote: »
    Maybe we'll go back to being more than "just a healer" finally... b:bye

    Wait, there's a healer other than Mystics in this game?b:shocked
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  • ObviousAlt - Raging Tide
    ObviousAlt - Raging Tide Posts: 655 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    Wait, there's a healer other than Mystics in this game?b:shocked

    ofc there are.. they're called wizards
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  • X_Rays - Sanctuary
    X_Rays - Sanctuary Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    If the description is true, then clerics will be OP, since they can sleep the enemy at half hp then finish them off with ease...
  • Korren - Lost City
    Korren - Lost City Posts: 339 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    from the description
    it seems barb will get an anti-air skill that can shoot down flying targets and deal massive damage.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Was there anything new in the archer preview page? http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/gamenews/20111124/63330.shtml

    The google translate of it didn't seem all that interesting.
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  • chaoticshelly
    chaoticshelly Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    b:shocked

    Nope, that was me.
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