PvP in Secret Passage is now 100% allowed!

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  • Shdknght - Dreamweaver
    Shdknght - Dreamweaver Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Ye but other then move the area just use tele to arena its there in every town ,ON USED .

    Make use of that arena.

    So they dont have to create it really just adjust it now its there but it is not used.
    In stead they anoying pve players

    But that makes too much sense. gotta give the PWI people something that they can prolong and wait it out till we are blue in the face from yelling at them to do something simple like that. Its like the government, take something simple and make it as complicated as possible... :/
  • Xx_Zero_xX - Dreamweaver
    Xx_Zero_xX - Dreamweaver Posts: 156 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    yea i am...just ask me i'll tell ya...

    and just for the record books...it took u 2-3 yrs to roll a R9 BM ? and it took u how long to realise u was on a PvE server ? ijs

    2 years actually and it didint take too long to realize lol ... i didint care about PvP till like 85-90.
    PvE server was fun before... a complete different story 2 years ago not like these days where everyone gets OP from night to day.questing was needed before wich made PvE decent,now everyone wants to hit 105 and be the best in PvP no one cares much about quests only the cultivations =P and well theres culti in SP lol...
  • PearlBreeze - Raging Tide
    PearlBreeze - Raging Tide Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Originally Posted by frankieraye View Post
    Nothing is scheduled to be changed yet, but again, it's only been a few days. It's pretty clear that the majority of players are not happy with this change, so we'll bring that up to the developers and see what we can do.

    i couldend find that quote so i copied it a sec .

    Srry franky its not a question of asking its very simple most people here enrolled on a pve server.As soon as u change one instance int o pvp its not an pve server anymore.

    Now i signed up for PVE and not for pvp.If u want to accomedate pvp let them go to their pvp servers.

    Of course some people like to have a little match and there is nothing wrong with that.But youre not doing that by turning instances around that should be pve and not pvp.

    This only confuses people .If the game developers make a sudgestion like that it should be buttnipped before hand not after.

    A good tournament hall is a great add to the PVE server.And makes up for a lot of fun .Without loss of any gears.

    Cuz really the kind of kids we got in those instances now are just killing people off in there for the sake of anoying them by xp loss.

    There isent a benifite in there for them.Besides a red name.Most of time i see a red name im thinking there goes another sad person .

    Cuz all they do is kiling lowers.Not even oftend there own lvl.WIch even find the real pkers sad, how can u be proud of killing a lower lvl ? Please enlightend me .There is no challenge in that every sorry *** can do that.

    There is no gain really at all .SO what is the point !! were on a pve server .It needs to be pve .Or the GDV lied to everyone that signed up at a pve server.
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  • PearlBreeze - Raging Tide
    PearlBreeze - Raging Tide Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    But that makes too much sense. gotta give the PWI people something that they can prolong and wait it out till we are blue in the face from yelling at them to do something simple like that. Its like the government, take something simple and make it as complicated as possible... :/

    b:thanksb:chuckleb:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • eatingcheetos
    eatingcheetos Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    you are right =) . but asking for help isnt that hard either xD , ive helped noobs kill krixxx and farng and some ive taken in fb29/shade eido/silverfrost.

    Well good for you. But I spent 2 days trying to get the Wheel of Earth Chest out of SP and got pk'd everytime. If I took a higher level friend in with me they got pk'd too. The last time we were ambushed by a sin in stealth as soon as we got to the chest. My friend recognized his daggers as level 100. So he must feel like Master of the Universe now cuz he can kill 2 toons, one 25 and the other 65 levels below him. Yeah, that's what they've turned SP into. So tell me again that I should beg that mob of pk crazed children inside the door for help. So you think if I get help from one that's gonna stop the dozen others stalking the lowbies? You are obviously too high a level to have any touch with reality and that makes you a huge part of the problem.
  • thebluebeast
    thebluebeast Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Zero... why u came here to just complain in that way? Sry one guy already said it... the kind of complaining here u did seems arrogant... and its just true.

    U and a lot of others here play on a pve server, i have already realized and accepted that we have some ppl there that like pvp... i think its the same on other pve servers...

    Its not so that i say... block pk in sp and its done... im not a pvper but its ok for me that others like to... so i just say move the pk arena to another place so the pvper have their fun and the lowbies can do their quests, why is that so difficult for u pvp guys... that is a thing i cant understand. And hey we have a pk arena already ... the devs had just smoked very hard and bad things and much of it... and they are too lazy... so they just put it in sp... how sad...

    The quests u call em useless... i dont think so, ppl that choose pve are most time ingame for DOING QUESTS... anyway if its called bh, fb, any other or whatever... especially in that lvl area... later when comes up the farming instances like tt and more later nirvana... and between that the lvl instance fc... then they change it... some of them and u are right on this... just buy fc heads... but hey most ppl that buy fc heads... they do it when they create a char... they give their lvl 1 chars in fc to lvl em... i saw often enough shouts like lvl 24 cleric is lf for fc heads... but i think thats the guys that give a **** of any quests in sp and that include bh... so hey... who cares then...

    The ppl that QQ here are other ones i think, include me... i have already my 101 char now and have some alts... but i dont buy fc heads i do the same quests again and again for every alt... so no not all do it that way.

    That useless quests... Not all of em are useless... i know u already said movve that and that boss out... but there more quests: shade eido, dismal shade, a drop from ancient evils, that skeleton quests, demonfires, silverfrost, painting, wheel of earth....

    I know i can find the skelletons outside, but not much of em... i know where to find demonfires outside... but that lil amount of em outside make it right take the ppl do that outside? Thats rude in the way on a pve server the quests have to be done outside cause the higher lvl ppl say hey its useless the sp is now our pk arena... and the lowbies have then to ask: ur pk isnt useless? well just to say it that way... sry it is... u have fun with ur pk or pvp... and the lowbies have fun in doing ALL their quests.... so just let all do what they like to do

    And about useless.... the wheel quest is a part of the legendary quest and it gives a very nice reward at the end... for a new ppl it is... i know for the cashers that start it from the first day they play its nothing worth but that cashers have most time a lot of money from selling gold... and who is buying that gold?... true the farmers... so hey all is hand in hand....

    And about stone in... well its not nice to say all have to do it now... cause at first... it dont give me the way to the other quests... and for those that just started its too much costs and ... and that dont include still what u said till now... the arcanes lvl 29 will just die while stone in through the mobs in entrance....

    So look i wont call u an arrogant guy... just ur kind of complaining give the idea u are... just try to think in another way for the pve ppl that just started or the ones with alts... that still doing their quests... im not that bad to say u dont have to get ur pk arena... its just true we already have one... its just closed instead of it they made a lowbie instance to it... thats not right... so why move out bosses when we already have another place for the pvpers?
  • whitesynn
    whitesynn Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    This one the most ridiculous changes your developers have introduced firstly bare in mind while you're trying to "mirror" the Chinese Sever this is fact is the American Sever and your players might prefer that some things remain different.

    So you've gone and made the Secret Passage 100% Pkable on your PVE severs (are you seeing my point there?) Sure it's a good thing to please your PVP and Pking loving population as well as your Cash Shoppers after all they prove income to keep your severs flourishing but at what price ?

    The Minority - The low levels. Blue name players, non cash shopping players and those who have quests inside there are now highly inconvenienced. I know personally I've been killed everytime attempted my quest I abandoned it, and now my Bh costs me 15000 coins per day forcefully. it's not about the money it's the fact you've taken away my choice of gettting to the portal safely the normal way since I don't like Pvping or Pking personally thats why i came to a PVE sever in the first place.


    Wasn't it just easier to create an arena or a seperate zone which doesn't affect anyone else and so that those who like PVPing on your PVE severs can go there and Pk to their hearts content.
  • FatalFem - Heavens Tear
    FatalFem - Heavens Tear Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I agree....I've been in crappier looking f2p games that had active GMS!!!

    Same here, its not much to ask that they have gm's full time in game. Someone making minimum wage would take the job... its not like it would cost them that much.
    Have only killed one person in SP, and that would be a level 100 friend of mine. I"m not saying you have to participate, I'm just saying if you die in game, you stay alive IRL. I don't support Noob PK either, It's quite lame, but this is the only 24 hour penalty free PvP instance we have now. Shame it interferes with a small handful of noob quests(and Chrono for OHT map). IMO, moving to Arena would be the best, but I would rather not have this removed altogether, it's got too much potential for hours of gameplay far longer than anyone would ever spend doing quests.

    You've made it clear in all your posts, that you are all about YOU. No, you don't die in real life, duh. Just b/c you don't support Noob Pk doesn't mean its not going on. Moving it all together is the only option b/c seemingly some children can't use any restraint. No 1 has said this was a bad idea, just that the placement was bad. Unless you are one of those idiots camping the SP, you have to agree with that as well.
    Actually, you can merchant from nothing at all if you're industrious. Warren's even got a really nice guide about it.

    You are brilliant. I know when I first down loaded and installed this game (was really my first serious MMO) that I knew all about game play, making money, forums and what the hell merchanting was. /sarcasm. Seriously, go back to that first MMO you ever played, where you knew NOTHING.. and imagine that is 99% of the ppl first starting out in this game. You don't know what to do ... you have to learn. And those 2 and 3 coins that drop in the starter areas from mobs, don't get you far. Please use common sense here and quit coming up with **** poor excuses.
  • FatalFem - Heavens Tear
    FatalFem - Heavens Tear Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    The Secret Passage instance is now fully open to PVP, meaning you can get PKed even if you do not have PVP mode enabled. The new rules are retroactive to the patch with the changes.

    Please post any feedback you have in the forum sticky announcing the changes. This allows us to centralize all of this feedback and then forward it to the developers in China. Customer Service has no influence over these changes, so emailing us directly will not help things get changed any sooner.

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1180311

    You are right, there is a standard answer for this, the sad thing is they didn't address ANYTHING I put in my ticket. Such as the screen shot proof of Enrage members asking for money for ppl to pass in secret passage. I guess _Evil_Angel was right, after you spend over 50 grand on a game, they don't care what you do. Its a free pass to do whatever the hell you want.

    I hope they come out with some awesome new content for lvl 100+. I am never rerolling another toon on this game in which I'd have to do quests in SP. If no new content, when I'm bored I"ll be gone.
  • Selak - Dreamweaver
    Selak - Dreamweaver Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I am sick of this garbage.

    Try this suggestion.

    PvP players due to their lack of playing 100% PvE game don't understand how much fun a game can be without PKing other players so PWI should remove all PK from their game so that PKers get a chance to find out how much fun it is to do quests.

    Sounds stupid, well it was meant too, just as stupid as suggesting the oppersite for PvE players.

    And as to those who continue to Push for PvP on PvE server, I am starting to think nearly all of you are as stupid as my suggestion.
    There are old Warriors, and bold Warriors,
    but there are very few old bold Warriors. b:chuckle
  • angelkissses
    angelkissses Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    If I wanted to pvp I would have chose a pvp server. There is no way to get to Dismal or shade eido or silver frost without going through sp. Using cave of Saddistic Glee would have been smarted if you have to have pvp in a PVE serve. Or make it so they can only pvp white named players not blue named ones that joined a PVE server because they did not want to PVP.
  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Let the Bleed begin...


    Lots of other games out there to play. When you sign up for their games they dont just suddenly force you into a different game style. Let us know when you grow up PWE.
  • Hideori - Lost City
    Hideori - Lost City Posts: 530 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I like when ppls crying, but almost 150 pages of QQ... that's ridiculous. didint knew such a big part of community here are cryers. just quit and **** b:mischievous
  • CursedSword - Raging Tide
    CursedSword - Raging Tide Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I like when ppls crying, but almost 150 pages of QQ... that's ridiculous. didint knew such a big part of community here are cryers. just quit and **** b:mischievous

    its not all QQ in the 150 pages, but most of it is just stating how idiotic those developers are in PWE due to forcing people to go into a game-style ( pvp ) they didn't choose to be in, and guess what would happen if all of these people did what you said "quit and ****" the PvE server would have A LOT less people .... but yea, maybe that should happen, then PwE will see their dumb *** mistake
  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    why not move all the so-called PvPers from Heaven Tears to Lost City server?

    There they could meet true PvPers and be PKed repeatedly by them.

    We all know those Enrage wannabees-PvPers would not stand a chance against the true PvPers of Lost City. Why do you think they rolled on a PvE server to begin with?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh
  • Hideori - Lost City
    Hideori - Lost City Posts: 530 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    why not move all the so-called PvPers from Heaven Tears to Lost City server?

    There they could meet true PvPers and be PKed repeatedly by them.

    We all know those Enrage wannabees-PvPers would not stand a chance against the true PvPers of Lost City. Why do you think they rolled on a PvE server to begin with?

    how do you able to "move" to another server? as far as I know it's imposible. or you mean create new character in other server and begin everything from begining? not really cool option I'd say.
  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I like when ppls crying, but almost 150 pages of QQ... that's ridiculous. didint knew such a big part of community here are cryers. just quit and **** b:mischievous

    Yes we would like to play a new game... and you can play too... we take both your feet and shove them up your bum.... PATHETIC LOSER doing as much QQing as anyone else. We arent criers buddy. We have no problem playin the new game. Hold on cause we forgot the lube.
  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    how do you able to "move" to another server? as far as I know it's imposible. or you mean create new character in other server and begin everything from begining? not really cool option I'd say.

    And yet you feel the rest of us who CHOSE a pve server should just say oh well. PUCKER UP BUDDY... you are winning the biggest J.A. award.
  • Hideori - Lost City
    Hideori - Lost City Posts: 530 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    mcfreakie wrote: »
    Yes we would like to play a new game... and you can play too... we take both your feet and shove them up your bum.... PATHETIC LOSER doing as much QQing as anyone else. We arent criers buddy. We have no problem playin the new game. Hold on cause we forgot the lube.

    I plaing other games too. I agree this game is sh**, but Im not crying "I ll quit if u allow them to pk me b:cry" like pwers. you are cryers. all the game is about pvp.
  • FatalFem - Heavens Tear
    FatalFem - Heavens Tear Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I am sick of this garbage.

    Try this suggestion.

    PvP players due to their lack of playing 100% PvE game don't understand how much fun a game can be without PKing other players so PWI should remove all PK from their game so that PKers get a chance to find out how much fun it is to do quests.

    Sounds stupid, well it was meant too, just as stupid as suggesting the oppersite for PvE players.

    And as to those who continue to Push for PvP on PvE server, I am starting to think nearly all of you are as stupid as my suggestion.

    I like this...
    I like when ppls crying, but almost 150 pages of QQ... that's ridiculous. didint knew such a big part of community here are cryers. just quit and **** b:mischievous

    There is a difference, whining b/c something new was implemented and we don't like it.. and then being pissed off b/c they totally changed the gaming schematics for many ppl.. Seriously... do you understand the meaning of the words: legitimate complaint? What gets me is you are whining about our whining...
    I plaing other games too. I agree this game is sh**, but Im not crying "I ll quit if u allow them to pk me b:cry" like pwers. you are cryers. all the game is about pvp.

    You are on a Pvp server right? So yes, YOUR game is all about Pvp. You chose that did you not? We chose pve for a reason. Tell you what tho, how bout they disable PvP and see how many of you cry about that? I bet your name would be one of the first here.
  • Hideori - Lost City
    Hideori - Lost City Posts: 530 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I like this...



    There is a difference, whining b/c something new was implemented and we don't like it.. and then being pissed off b/c they totally changed the gaming schematics for many ppl.. Seriously... do you understand the meaning of the words: legitimate complaint? What gets me is you are whining about our whining...



    You are on a Pvp server right? So yes, YOUR game is all about Pvp. You chose that did you not? We chose pve for a reason. Tell you what tho, how bout they disable PvP and see how many of you cry about that? I bet your name would be one of the first here.

    PvE is still PvE, its just one single instance. its nothing bad to have one place for pvp even in pve server. PvErs also want to pk sometimes.
  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011

    There is a difference, whining b/c something new was implemented and we don't like it.. and then being pissed off b/c they totally changed the gaming schematics for many ppl.. Seriously... do you understand the meaning of the words: legitimate complaint? What gets me is you are whining about our whining...


    You are on a Pvp server right? So yes, YOUR game is all about Pvp. You chose that did you not? We chose pve for a reason. Tell you what tho, how bout they disable PvP and see how many of you cry about that? I bet your name would be one of the first here.

    I wouldnt waste too much of your time. Already proven many times over he cant comprehend basic logic skills. I do laugh with you in the fact he cant understand he is doing alot of whining about whining yet he actually thinks his whining is BETTER then anyone else.
  • Daedallus - Sanctuary
    Daedallus - Sanctuary Posts: 554 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Again... and I'll go slo this time so even devs can understand.....


    I'm on a PvE server = I don't want to PvP

    Clear?

    Now fix the mess, thank you b:bye
  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    PvE is still PvE, its just one single instance. its nothing bad to have one place for pvp even in pve server. PvErs also want to pk sometimes.

    and yet he fails to understand there are ample places for those on a PVE server to PVP... its the harassing PK he wants to play. His game wasnt effected so he cant comprehend why ANYONE else would be upset or even should be upset cause he is in his own little world.
  • cloudcross
    cloudcross Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    so many messages from players on this issue yet i havent seen the GMs doing nothing about it. its true tis sp free pk is a mayor problem coss of the previos mentiond things quite a few quest do need you to enter it to finish them coss you cant find thouse monsters or quest items outside. If it were a Gpotatogame like prius gms would be runing around tring to fix it not just say its now allowed wen they were baning people previosly for pk . i dont care if there are pk areas just dont put them in quest areas to and less in a lowlevel place thats just plane dumb i thought you people were smarter than this. mabe nextime you might want to check the updates youre gona make befor you slap the lable free pk in a pve server
  • Runelle - Harshlands
    Runelle - Harshlands Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    People are acting like they'll be spending all their time in SP.

    Warp to your FB's and you'll be fine. You aren't going to spend your whole life in there.
  • thebluebeast
    thebluebeast Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Im going mad... im going mad cause its starting to get boring that we pve ppl need to explain our reasons why we are against it over and over... and that just cause u pvp ppl are too lazy to read just some post (dont need the whole thread) to just get the reason of our points and to see WE ARE NOT ALL FULLY AGAINST PVP ON OUR PVE SERVERS BUT WE ARE AGAINST THAT THE PPL THAT LIKE TO DO THEIR QUESTS IN THE SP CANT DO IT ANYMORE IN SAFE ON A PVE SERVER WHERE WE CHOOSED FROM START ON TO WANNA BE AND WE ALREADY GOT A PVP ARENA IN THE GAME ITS JUST CLOSED AND THE DEVS JUST MADE A LOWBIE INSTANCE TO IT CAUSE THEY SMOKED TOO MUCH, TOO BAD AND TOO HARD SH.... AND THEY ARE TOO LAZY

    sry im normally ok with some ppl have another opinion but this seems all so useless and this thread with our QQ like the opposite side call our doings have especially that much sites cause there is again and again a guy that just say hey its just one instance and there ppl that like pvp even on pve server.... *sigh* for lot of us this instance is important enough and if u call our quests in there useless then i call ur pvp useless... thats it... or maybe can we let both our sides get whatever they love... the pve ppl can do their quests in safe again and the pvper get a new place where they can have their fun with pvp? i just think that last point would give all of us a point, but there still that much ppl again and again that start hey its useless, hey just one instance... i just repeat myself in my own post already i know... but hey thats it what happend in the thread too...

    So i would just love it if the pvp ppl and the pve ppl just fight together for the same things... pvp arena in the towns opened again cause it was made for that and is already there... and the sp is safe again on pve servers... Lets just fight together.... anyway if we get it or not... we are one community god dammit....
  • Hideori - Lost City
    Hideori - Lost City Posts: 530 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    cloudcross wrote: »
    so many messages from players on this issue yet i havent seen the GMs doing nothing about it.

    well, I saw it today..
    Hey all,




    We will be having Server Maintenance tonight from 11pm PDT until 1am PDT!




    And for the usual maintenance question..


    If you could make any instance in the game open PVP (like Secret Passage is right now), which would you choose and why?

    looks like they planing to do something... in 2018 years. anyway, I dont think they should do something about this. cryers will cry about other instances as well...
  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    xnms wrote: »
    take pvp out of secret passage and allow it in the first room of cube of fate. That would no longer effect low level players since you have to be level 40 for cube of fate.

    Now, all of you who say leave it like it is or for noobs to stone into 29, How badly would that **** you off?

    Well 40th is still pretty low too all us old school players, whether they quested without (FC/power leveling) like me or those who lived too become (Power Leveling FAIL Babies) like most the new high lvs are now a days, only differance is the FAIL BABIIES all still got 40th LV SKILLS and TALENT!!!!! !! !RoFlMaO b:laughb:victoryb:laughb:victoryb:laugh
  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    . PvErs also want to pk sometimes.
    Those who don't want to be PKed should not be forced to. That's why we ask for a type of arena where those who want to pvp will be able too between themselves. Putting this arena in a PvE instance is totally stupid.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh
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