Is PK allowed in the Secret Passage??

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  • Coralshealz - Dreamweaver
    Coralshealz - Dreamweaver Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    LOL schznider, the gms were killed by darth vader apparently....b:lipcurl
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Coralshealz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    LOL schznider, the gms were killed by darth vader apparently....b:lipcurl

    They all went over to the dark side of FW.
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  • SoulRequiem - Sanctuary
    SoulRequiem - Sanctuary Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    While I can understand how annoying this is,like most already said,you can"Just",stone in,if you're too lazy to go back into archosaur(There's a teleport from the temple near you known),then lol.

    Silver Frost?.players get it with Chrono at lvl.70,not necessary for cultivation until the lv.100 one,but let's take for granted that you NEED ABSOLUTELY Silver Frost thing at lv.70(I had a few alts who completed the first chrono quest part at lv.70),well,here's the so complicated solution:

    - You are level 70 right?
    - You didn't levelled in 2 days right?
    - This is a multiplayer social game,I assume that while you levelled you got some friends,right?
    - You can ask your friends/faction to help you right?(Assuming you weren't going to solo Silver Frost at lv.70 yes?)

    -- Wait,you don't have any friends at lv.70?,your fault b:bye
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    Coralshealz - Dreamweaver Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    What about all the monster killing quests in there? those you get around lvl 30, and theres also a few little bosses in there lvl 30s and 40s need. what about them? not every1 is a cash player you know... they cant just Fc their way up.b:coldb:infuriated
  • BriarFoxy - Raging Tide
    BriarFoxy - Raging Tide Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Coralshealz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    ok, this is really unfair to those low lvls in the secret passage. its a open pk area and the high lvls on my server have now gone in there and are killing all blue names in there. luckily the 1 that attacked me missed. GMs you got to fix this if you exist even.... poor blue names who go in there to quest are getting killed n i had to help protect one of them how bad it was. if your going to make it a free pk area you have to 1) take off the ban on pking in there and 2) make it so there are no quests required in there anymore. b:cold

    Then Those Player would not go in there cause they couldn't kill any Low players. It's just the LOW level of there play ethics.
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  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    *Looks at the other topic*
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1173681

    A second topic wont help you.
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  • Sparc - Harshlands
    Sparc - Harshlands Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    Sparc, about the website you quoted from the BBB... It even says on the site that PWE is not BBB accredited, nor do they have to have it. This means that the BBB can give them whatever rating they want, because PWE doesn't want to deal with them. Here is my particular quote:

    "Perfect World Entertainment is not BBB Accredited.

    Businesses are under no obligation to seek BBB accreditation, and some businesses are not accredited because they have not sought BBB accreditation."

    In other words, PWE doesn't have to provide any information to the BBB if they don't necessarily want to be BBB accredited, so they don't. Thus, the lack of communication caused the BBB to give them an F.
    Kings_tides - Raging Tide wrote: »
    True, but if you read a little farther, you find the reason for the F rating:

    4 ppl gave it the F rating because of bad customer service.

    Precisely. Businesses do not have to be (or seek to be) accredited, you are right about that. However just because a business is not accredited does not automatically give them an "F"...

    Here are two simple examples that I just randomly found by googling about it:

    http://www.bbb.org/central-florida/business-reviews/water-filtration-and-purification-equipment/enviro-water-solutions-in-deland-fl-195154163

    http://www.bbb.org/raleigh-durham/business-reviews/plumbers/knightdale-plumbing-in-knightdale-nc-90156903

    There, those are two business NOT accredited, yet they received an "A+" rating... Accredited or not, as I've proved above, Perfect World Entertainment receives a big fat "F"... As an added note, that one company even had EIGHT complaints against them, but they still got an A+ rating...
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    *Looks at the other topic*
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1173681

    A second topic wont help you.

    Wow...

    Did you even STOP TO CONSIDER that MAYBE, just MAYBE, this is a DIFFERENT TOPIC?!

    Maybe you should ACTUALLY READ the ****ing post.

    THAT is a topic about Secret Passage and QQ.

    THIS is a topic about the lack of GM's in the game (and QQ).

    Or did you just look at the topic, and assume?

    Thanks for your reply. >_>
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited September 2011
    Sparc - Harshlands wrote: »
    Kings_tides - Raging Tide wrote: »
    True, but if you read a little farther, you find the reason for the F rating:

    4 ppl gave it the F rating because of bad customer service.

    Precisely. Businesses do not have to be (or seek to be) accredited, you are right about that. However just because a business is not accredited does not automatically give them an "F"...

    Here are two simple examples that I just randomly found by googling about it:

    http://www.bbb.org/central-florida/business-reviews/water-filtration-and-purification-equipment/enviro-water-solutions-in-deland-fl-195154163

    http://www.bbb.org/raleigh-durham/business-reviews/plumbers/knightdale-plumbing-in-knightdale-nc-90156903

    There, those are two business NOT accredited, yet they received an "A+" rating... Accredited or not, as I've proved above, Perfect World Entertainment receives a big fat "F"... As an added note, that one company even had EIGHT complaints against them, but they still got an A+ rating...

    PWE doesn't want to talk to them, while those other companies do. Your point? All I'm saying is more reasons why the PWE BBB score was lowered had to do with their willingness to communicate with BBB officials than their "bad customer service".

    Also, the two examples you quote are water and plumbing services, not gaming companies. Customer service differs between businesses, and what one company terms "good customer service" could be bad in another forum of business. Until you compare a gaming company (non-accredited) to PWE, your point made by those references is like comparing apples to oranges... it can't be done in fairness to both sides.

    Also, to Kings_tides... you can't guarantee to me that those weren't just people who were pissed off because they didn't get what they wanted from their packs, and felt they were being ripped off. In order to have legitimate complaints, there has to be a valid, prove-able reason behind them, otherwise they are baseless accusations made to make somebody or something look bad.
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  • Vipercat - Dreamweaver
    Vipercat - Dreamweaver Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Since I do not expect decisive action on this matter any time soon, I recommend players start taking matters into their own hands. If you're a lowbie between 30-70 and need something in SP I recommend bringing one or more fairly tough escorts you can trust such as a lvl100 barb or sin and keep them between you and the unknown players. Also if you're a high level and see a jerk ganking lowbies in SP fight back and stop them! even if you can't beat them you'll distract them long enough for the lower levels to get away. btw Hi Schznider and Coral b:pleased
  • HildieGarde - Heavens Tear
    HildieGarde - Heavens Tear Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Back to the topic... why don't they just re-enable the old arena system to satisfy the PvP needs of players? The current system(s) are way too complicated, which is one of the reasons why they just go to SP. People just want to port in and PK each other without cost (other than Pots or Charms), or Factions can hold PvP practice sessions.

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    BTW, it just makes good common sense and reduce the player dissatisfaction by sticking to the posted rules. What is the point of having the *no PK in SP* message that EVERYONE sees on sign-in then have a Mod tell a small group of people on the forums that that notice is wrong??? *Facepalm*
  • Coralshealz - Dreamweaver
    Coralshealz - Dreamweaver Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    hey viper!!!!!! haha can i use u as a bodyguard 4 my lil toons that need stuff in there? b:chuckle
  • Schznider - Dreamweaver
    Schznider - Dreamweaver Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    hey vipercat Lol, wow this subject has gone far.. does it need to go further for the gms to wake up n do sumthing??
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  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Wow...

    Did you even STOP TO CONSIDER that MAYBE, just MAYBE, this is a DIFFERENT TOPIC?!

    Maybe you should ACTUALLY READ the ****ing post.

    THAT is a topic about Secret Passage and QQ.

    THIS is a topic about the lack of GM's INSIDE SECRET PASSAGE in the game (and QQ).

    Or did you just look at the topic, and assume?

    Thanks for your reply. >_>

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  • Coralshealz - Dreamweaver
    Coralshealz - Dreamweaver Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    nah, the gms need sum1 2 beat it in2 their heads b4 they accually care enuf 2 do sumthing.....b:beatupb:surrenderb:shutup
  • Sparc - Harshlands
    Sparc - Harshlands Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    PWE doesn't want to talk to them, while those other companies do. Your point? All I'm saying is more reasons why the PWE BBB score was lowered had to do with their willingness to communicate with BBB officials than their "bad customer service".

    Also, the two examples you quote are water and plumbing services, not gaming companies. Customer service differs between businesses, and what one company terms "good customer service" could be bad in another forum of business. Until you compare a gaming company (non-accredited) to PWE, your point made by those references is like comparing apples to oranges... it can't be done in fairness to both sides.

    Also, to Kings_tides... you can't guarantee to me that those weren't just people who were pissed off because they didn't get what they wanted from their packs, and felt they were being ripped off. In order to have legitimate complaints, there has to be a valid, prove-able reason behind them, otherwise they are baseless accusations made to make somebody or something look bad.

    I wasn't and am not attempting to cite anger out of staff, or my fellow 'player-base', etc., just so everyone knows that right now...

    My point, my point is maybe they should care. I happen to REALLY like this game, and would hope the people that 'run' it would care about every possible aspect of their 'product'... Not just to their own paychecks, employees, not just to us the players, but yes, even to the BBB... It really doesn't matter if the companies I listed are plumbing/non-related (in my opinion)... If you REALLY wanted me to I could also list a direct competitor right now, one that happens to be Based out of Irvine, CA (that is also NOT ACCREDITED), and they have a B- rating with almost 1500 complaints -- however I wont do that because I'm guessing that would just get me banned =\ But that's exactly what I'm talking about; why would I get banned when I am trying to help -- trying to say maybe we SHOULD care MORE, who cares -- anyone who researches the BBB, that's who... How about anyone who plays this game and has felt they've received poor customer service, like not even knowing if PK in SP is still bannable or not even though IT SAYS IT IS... Even people that never have a problem, if they like the game, they care... Because when the very people that run this game stop caring about it, that's when it will shut down for good...

    So, someone kills me in SP, so I submit a ticket just to receive the response that "oh, that's really not against the rules" -- is almost as bad as seeing an ad for a TV that's on sale for $150 -- to arrive at the store to be told they're "sold out" and the next cheapest model they have "like it" is $300 !!! Would you keep going back to the same store if they constantly pulled that???

    Yes -- I think we should care, we should care a LOT! Maybe to the players (even you Kritty) PW is just a game, but at the end of a day -- it's still a BUSINESS and needs to be handled like one b:surrender

    So in the end, what am I saying, or what is my point??? I am saying / my point is maybe Perfect World Entertainment should care a little more about their business and their products, and their customer service. How could they do this? Several ways, one would be adding telephone support, what business does not have telephone support now-a-days anyways!? Another thing they could do, is strive to become BBB accredited, or at least earn a higher rating than an "F" even if they opt to stay un-accredited...

    Either way I guess it really doesn't matter -- I mean what could one little peon like me possibly change anyway -- How about making sure everything in terms of rules and whatnot is black or white, with NO gray areas (like now, this whole PK in SP issue)... Surely not any form of major change or reform in the company like adding 24/7 phone support, heck even just adding phone support for during 'normal business hours' =\

    Oh well, maybe I care more about PWi than it's own employees QQ
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Sangodoc wrote: »
    Not to mention that most people recruit BH29 squads in the entrance of SP. Do they have to go back to Arch after recruiting now to teleport back in?

    No, PKing them when they're questing there is still bannable. Screenshot and report.

    Actually PKing them for a couple of times isn't. Who knows, they probably won't come back after the second time anyways. b:bye
  • Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear
    Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,541 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    HildieGarde - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Back to the topic... why don't they just re-enable the old arena system to satisfy the PvP needs of players? The current system(s) are way too complicated, which is one of the reasons why they just go to SP. People just want to port in and PK each other without cost (other than Pots or Charms), or Factions can hold PvP practice sessions.

    Old Arena 2008

    BTW, it just makes good common sense and reduce the player dissatisfaction by sticking to the posted rules. What is the point of having the *no PK in SP* message that EVERYONE sees on sign-in then have a Mod tell a small group of people on the forums that that notice is wrong??? *Facepalm*

    Not that I like PKing but I don't see annything wrong with that arena... So why did they close it? b:question
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  • HildieGarde - Heavens Tear
    HildieGarde - Heavens Tear Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Not that I like PKing but I don't see annything wrong with that arena... So why did they close it? b:question

    That's what I thought. People have been asking for it for years, and instead they came up with the current ridiculously complex Arena system that as far as I know no-one really uses.

    I vaguely remember seeing a thread where the GMs mentioned some lame excuse that Factions would camp the Arena. But the rebuff to that was that there are so many Arenas one in each major city that it wouldn't be that big a problem.
  • Atrocious - Heavens Tear
    Atrocious - Heavens Tear Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Short answer: Yes. PK is allowable. Just leave your noobs alone.
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  • Atrocious - Heavens Tear
    Atrocious - Heavens Tear Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    b:victory Atro and friends have enjoyed playing the barb-guard brigade the last few nights. PKing the people harassing the lowbies and defending justice and equality in SP.

    Although *cough* there were a few that didn't listen when I said back up I'm gonna arma.

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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    PWE doesn't want to talk to them, while those other companies do. Your point? All I'm saying is more reasons why the PWE BBB score was lowered had to do with their willingness to communicate with BBB officials than their "bad customer service".

    Also, the two examples you quote are water and plumbing services, not gaming companies. Customer service differs between businesses, and what one company terms "good customer service" could be bad in another forum of business. Until you compare a gaming company (non-accredited) to PWE, your point made by those references is like comparing apples to oranges... it can't be done in fairness to both sides.

    Also, to Kings_tides... you can't guarantee to me that those weren't just people who were pissed off because they didn't get what they wanted from their packs, and felt they were being ripped off. In order to have legitimate complaints, there has to be a valid, prove-able reason behind them, otherwise they are baseless accusations made to make somebody or something look bad.

    Most of the complaints about this non accredited internet gaming company probably are based off not getting what they wanted from their gambling: http://www.la.bbb.org/business-reviews/Bingo-Centers/Internet-Casino-Sports-Gaming-LLC-in-Tustin-CA-13076898 They still received an A- and are not BBB accredited. There is also an MMO that also received A+ ratings , even though they had 72 complaints but as it's a competitor I won't name it. I will say that it's also not accredited. BBB doesn't give companies F just because they don't talk to them, they give them an F because they won't resolve the customer complaints. I see no reason why PWE, considering it's determination to become one of the more F2P online gaming companies, shouldn't work with the BBB. What do they have to hide? They don't have to pay for accreditation to receive a good rating, why wouldn't they work with the BB to resolve the customer complaint that went with them. According to their BBB page, they didn't even respond.
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  • Merliss - Heavens Tear
    Merliss - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    i hate to tell everyone this PK in SP is harrassment.. no lower lvl will get anything done....wait lets jus Power lvl them that will fix it
  • Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear
    Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,541 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    HildieGarde - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    That's what I thought. People have been asking for it for years, and instead they came up with the current ridiculously complex Arena system that as far as I know no-one really uses.

    I vaguely remember seeing a thread where the GMs mentioned some lame excuse that Factions would camp the Arena. But the rebuff to that was that there are so many Arenas one in each major city that it wouldn't be that big a problem.

    Like factions aren't camping in SP right now... What's the diffirence? b:lipcurl
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  • Barunaa - Heavens Tear
    Barunaa - Heavens Tear Posts: 420 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Atrocious - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:victory Atro and friends have enjoyed playing the barb-guard brigade the last few nights. PKing the people harassing the lowbies and defending justice and equality in SP.

    Although *cough* there were a few that didn't listen when I said back up I'm gonna arma.

    b:laughb:cute


    what are u gonna do about lowbies PKing other lowbies tho. after all, it is against the rules for a high lvl to kill a lowbie in SP and they can easily screenshot u doing itb:shutup
  • HildieGarde - Heavens Tear
    HildieGarde - Heavens Tear Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Atrocious - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Short answer: Yes. PK is allowable. Just leave your noobs alone.

    But they don't.

    And how do you distinguish a low level Newbie and the high level that is helping them from someone who is there for PvP? Answer: You can't easily.

    SP PvP "feature" was a mistake due to a bad cultural understanding of US players. Made worse by poor communication. Can we say -- *Weak management?* and *poor execution?*
    Yuna_Sama - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Like factions aren't camping in SP right now... What's the diffirence? b:lipcurl

    Precisely! The BIG difference is that in the Arena you CHOOSE to go in for PK/PvP. So what does that say about the PKrs? -- They WANT to kill unsuspecting newbies, because they are so fail they can't do it otherwise.

    And there is only 1 SP in the entire Server while there are Arenas in every City (except for new races).

    Bring back the original Arenas please.
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  • Atrocious - Heavens Tear
    Atrocious - Heavens Tear Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    HildieGarde - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    But they don't.

    And how do you distinguish a low level Newbie and the high level that is helping them from someone who is there for PvP? Answer: You can't easily.

    SP PvP "feature" was a mistake due to a bad cultural understanding of US players. Made worse by poor communication. Can we say -- *Weak management?* and *poor execution?*

    Please refer to my guide which explains how to tell the difference.

    Also~ If you see someone running straight through, instead of stopping to peer at you like they're considering taking your hide as a new living room rug, generally that means they're ok.
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  • HildieGarde - Heavens Tear
    HildieGarde - Heavens Tear Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Atrocious - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Please refer to my guide which explains how to tell the difference.

    Also~ If you see someone running straight through, instead of stopping to peer at you like they're considering taking your hide as a new living room rug, generally that means they're ok.

    Cute idea/guide. lol. I'm not a PKer, and I can guarantee you that 99%+ of the PKrs in SP have not read your guide, nor do they care. Some just want to give as much grief as possible since they can get away with it with little possibility of consequences.
  • LadyofReal - Heavens Tear
    LadyofReal - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,993 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    No it's not. Player griefing/harassment is against the rules. A one time thing isn't bannable; it gets bannable when it is done repeatedly.
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited September 2011
    Barunaa - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    what are u gonna do about lowbies PKing other lowbies tho. after all, it is against the rules for a high lvl to kill a lowbie in SP and they can easily screenshot u doing itb:shutup

    I ran protection for a couple of mystics when some 60s BM tried to fist them to death (no joke...pretty sad really). I 3-hit him, and the mystics were able to finish their quest in peace.b:chuckle
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