Demon QS (not as great as I thought)

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  • KedgeSniper - Lost City
    KedgeSniper - Lost City Posts: 733 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Yes, I suppose if I am disagreeing with you, I am by definition talking too much.

    Nevertheless I know someone (not me, someone else) that can outlast him on immune time, can move faster than him, and with +5 gear has killed the richest catabarbs on the server in melee. Thought, debuffs and gear that increases rate of attack can make +5 tt99 do some interesting things.

    lol?
    Either your server sux with barbs... 20K+ Human barbs with Turtle, Immune pots and the genie skill that lower damage.(plus the other skill that gives chi everytime you get hit)

    You really think +5 gear solo one of them. lol


    Are we talking about duels? like that thing people do at like lv 1-29.

    I just read in melee.. So the archer triple spark and the barb sit there and took it? without using his own immune pot... or stun after/occult ice.
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Yes, I suppose if I am disagreeing with you, I am by definition talking too much.

    Nevertheless I know someone (not me, someone else) that can outlast him on immune time, can move faster than him, and with +5 gear has killed the richest catabarbs on the server in melee. Thought, debuffs and gear that increases rate of attack can make +5 tt99 do some interesting things.

    Rank 9 +12 will one shot anyone under 10k hp and ungodly phys and mag def/stacked def level, sad but true. As for the "top cata barbs beign killed by tt 99" Ya just no, our *top* cattas have 35-40k hp in tiger, I can 3 spark them with +10 2x garnet gems claws and they can afk tank it. SS or it didnt happen
    an archer with full set of +12 armor will be flirting with 14k UNBUFFED hp (pending his hat and cape has somewhat similar refines)... without any hp shards. the physical resistance itself should be around 55% unbuffed. Since cv are stronger then tt99 bows... i'll even throw in a +5 cv bow for you. From what I remember +5 cv's damage range runs from 6-9k with pure dex and twin attack rings. Even if you manage to hit the max range every shot... each of your hits would do 1k. you'll need 14 non crit max damage hits to kill an unbuffed r9 archer. at .8 aps 14 hits would come out to be about 18 seconds. even if you factor in demon quickshot and crits... the r9 archer got to be DEAD ASLEEP for you to even remotely kill him. oh... and lets not forget there is still 24 slots of possibly def shard or hp gems unaccounted for in my example.

    Now lets switch to the 40k hp barb with 75% unbuffed physical and 50% unbuffed magical resistance. It'll take 70 regular non-crit high end shots to kill him at the cost of 90 seconds. even with archer metal attacks (considering an archer can only pull off 4 metal attacks in a 10 second window). Each of those metal attack better be dealing 10k damage each to make the kill. And let me tell you this... even a +12 r9 with twin garnet gems can't do 10k metal damage on a barb.

    The only hope of anyone with a +5 cv/tt99 weapon in killing a geared out r9 player... is to pray that someone else already ticked his charm AND got his hp down.

    You left out STA and the 50ish% crit rate a demon archer would have with a buff. Its doable on a LA/AA class they just need to be unbuffed and completely afk.
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Rank 9 +12 will one shot anyone under 10k hp and ungodly phys and mag def/stacked def level, sad but true. As for the "top cata barbs beign killed by tt 99" Ya just no, our *top* cattas have 35-40k hp in tiger, I can 3 spark them with +10 2x garnet gems claws and they can afk tank it. SS or it didnt happen
    .

    The statement Fleuri presented could be a half truth. She said "TT99 gears" but that does not specify the grade of weapon of said person, neither do we have enough basis to assume this person is an archer. For all we know it could be a GoF sin with only the R9 weapon and rest TT99(in which case...zzzzz). The situation is also highly unspecified; "richest cata barb" could have been very close to death in a TW or gank and said person with +5 gears may have simply dealt the final bow. Nevertheless the statement was a very poor way to attempt to make a point :x
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    You left out STA and the 50ish% crit rate a demon archer would have with a buff. Its doable on a LA/AA class they just need to be unbuffed and completely afk.

    hence the...
    even if you factor in demon quickshot and crits... the r9 archer got to be DEAD ASLEEP for you to even remotely kill him.

    even then its still not possible... short of every debuff you can throw on. any full +12 (even +10) would be decked out in jades... thats 48 defense level... essentially reducing the damage by half (since r9 def level bonus already canceled out blessing's atk levels).
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    The statement Fleuri presented could be a half truth. She said "TT99 gears" but that does not specify the grade of weapon of said person, neither do we have enough basis to assume this person is an archer. For all we know it could be a GoF sin with only the R9 weapon and rest TT99(in which case...zzzzz). The situation is also highly unspecified; "richest cata barb" could have been very close to death in a TW or gank and said person with +5 gears may have simply dealt the final bow. Nevertheless the statement was a very poor way to attempt to make a point :x

    really? thats going to be your excuse. the 40k barb has 1 hp left so a dumb *** killed him. and yea... an r9 sin is going to wear a set of tt99 armor. i been killed by a 3 digit damage from some **** cannon fodder before. pretty sure that cannon fodder isn't going to broadcast to the world that he killed an r9 archer by dealing 300 damage. hes going to get laughed at before he even finish his sentence.

    EDIT: I actually kinda wish Fleuri is correct in some aspects. richest cata barb on sanc got rolled by a +5 tt99. at this rate... anyone in my guild can stomp the best sanc has to offer. guess we know which server will drop out of the server tourny first.
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    really? thats going to be your excuse. the 40k barb has 1 hp left so a dumb *** killed him. and yea... an r9 sin is going to wear a set of tt99 armor. i been killed by a 3 digit damage from some **** cannon fodder before. pretty sure that cannon fodder isn't going to broadcast to the world that he killed an r9 archer by dealing 300 damage. hes going to get laughed at before he even finish his sentence.

    EDIT: I actually kinda wish Fleuri is correct in some aspects. richest cata barb on sanc got rolled by a +5 tt99. at this rate... anyone in my guild can stomp the best sanc has to offer. guess we know which server will drop out of the server tourny first.

    Excuse? It is a viable thought. I have seen a lot of people with TT99 gear and R9 weapon at teh same time, and yes people would brag about getting the final shot. My point was it was a dodgy and deceptive statement full of room for loopholes. Are you really going to argue that?
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Excuse? It is a viable thought. I have seen a lot of people with TT99 gear and R9 weapon at teh same time, and yes people would brag about getting the final shot. My point was it was a dodgy and deceptive statement full of room for loopholes. Are you really going to argue that?

    maybe you should go back and re-read what he posted before trying to find loopholes. the fourth worth is SOMEONE. Last time i checked... "SOMEONE" in the English language means a single person.
    Nevertheless I know someone (not me, someone else) that can outlast him on immune time, can move faster than him, and with +5 gear has killed the richest catabarbs on the server in melee.

    common sense dictates that no one will refer an r9 dagger wielding sin as tt99 sin. just by seeing an r9 dagger... its more then safe to assume he'll have at least an r8 chest... possibly nirv/tt99 aps set. just cause the guy have 2 pieces of tt99... doesn't mean that he'll be referred to as an tt99 sin. just like if i slap on my only 2 piece of tt99 gear... no one in their right mind is going to refer to me as an tt99 archer. i'll still be known as an r9 archer.... just like the that sin will be known as an r9 sin.

    EDIT: in the none sanctuary world... we refer people to their highest class of gear. and we don't have our top barbs getting killed by a +5 ANYTHING. and when i said i kill something... it means... i and i alone killed something. not 10 other people hit it and i made the kill. but guess on sanc... when you said you killed something... it means 10 other people hit it and you managed to get in the lucky last shot. in that case... i'll even go as far as to say who needs a freaking tt99... or even refines. i can take down a 40k hp barb with a grade 1 wooden magic wand.
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    maybe you should go back and re-read what he posted before trying to find loopholes. the fourth worth is SOMEONE. Last time i checked... "SOMEONE" in the English language means a single person.



    common sense dictates that no one will refer an r9 dagger wielding sin as having a tt99 set. just by seeing an r9 dagger... its more then safe to assume he'll have at least an r8 chest... possibly nirv/tt99 aps set. just cause the guy have 2 pieces of tt99... doesn't mean that he'll be referred to as an tt99 sin. just like if i slap on my only 2 piece of tt99 gear... no one in their right mind is going to refer to me as an tt99 archer.

    "+5 tt99" and "+5 gear" are very loose phrases and the person who stated them might not be in their right mind...ijs. There was nothing about a "tt99 set" that was specified or directly stated. And when I said that I see many people running around with tt99 armor/ornaments and R9 weapons, I was not indicating that all those people are the "someone" Fleuri was talking about. I was simply bringing evidence that it happens, people do carry R9 weapons with tt99 pieces. I'm just saying there are many situations where a person with pieces of +5 tt99 could happen to deal the final blow to a cata barb, and that the statement made by Fleuri to prove some point left too many factors unattended to be considered a viable statement. There's really nothing to argue here, you must be pretty bored.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    wtf is going on in this thread... just let it die.
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    wtf is going on in this thread... just let it die.

    were having too much fun needlessly arguing
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    full r9 set more or less voids its attacker's 30 atk blessing. You think a +5 lunar bow with its damage range in the 10k area.

    I was not talking about an archer.

    I was talking about someone using a tt99 weapon.

    So, ok, let's say your friend with the r9+12 bow just finishes off some putz. He is down 1000 health and down 1000 mana, and stunning arrow has 10 seconds to cool off, he has full energy on his genie, no apoths on cooldown. He gets hit by an attack. But before I can say how much damage the attack does, we need to agree on his gear.

    Does this represent the kind of gear you were thinking about? http://pwcalc.com/b819ea143a32f81a

    And can I assume he is self buffed? Or does he usually have barb/bm/cleric buffs?

    Anyways, if you can say if that is his gear, I can tell you about the attack and you can tell me how he reacts.
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Yes, I suppose if I am disagreeing with you, I am by definition talking too much.

    Nevertheless I know someone (not me, someone else) that can outlast him on immune time, can move faster than him, and with +5 gear has killed the richest catabarbs on the server in melee. Thought, debuffs and gear that increases rate of attack can make +5 tt99 do some interesting things.
    I was not talking about an archer.

    I was talking about someone using a tt99 weapon.

    So, ok, let's say your friend with the r9+12 bow just finishes off some putz. He is down 1000 health and down 1000 mana, and stunning arrow has 10 seconds to cool off, he has full energy on his genie, no apoths on cooldown. He gets hit by an attack. But before I can say how much damage the attack does, we need to agree on his gear.

    Does this represent the kind of gear you were thinking about? http://pwcalc.com/b819ea143a32f81a

    And can I assume he is self buffed? Or does he usually have barb/bm/cleric buffs?

    Anyways, if you can say if that is his gear, I can tell you about the attack and you can tell me how he reacts.

    Sure... I'll play along. 11.1k max hp with 69 def levels and 58% natural physical/magical resistance... no buffs (even self). I am not even going to take mana in to consideration since no archer is going to be dependent on mana EVER. 1k hp missing for a 10.1k/11.1k overall hp. I would like to see which of the tt99 equivalent or lower weapon can get pass that. Remember... hes only missing 1k hp so his charm haven't ticked yet. Also keep in mind that most tt99 light/robe armor user won't have much more then 5k in hp. And a full r9 archer will end any tt99 light/robe armor user with less then 10k hp with a single crit.

    And for the sake of god I hope you are not suggesting that the archer in question only have 1k hp left form the previous fight. And your so call hero managed to kill someone with less then 10% of his overall hp remaining.

    For an archer that just got a kill... his reaction speed should be at this best. You are likely get 1-2 free shots in before he react if you are ranged. Melee more or less can only get in a single shot as you would need to take in to consideration of closing the distance. Sin would not be able to reach 5aps with tt99 or lower grade gear. Oh yea... at my current build a 25k hp barb's arma can't even tick my charm.
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  • KedgeSniper - Lost City
    KedgeSniper - Lost City Posts: 733 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    were having too much fun needlessly arguing

    The discussion is about hh99 weapon.

    Wearing hh99 gear is not bad, obviously most classes that use fist/daggers require this for 5.0 or 4.0 to max their damage. Its an obvious exchange of dps for survivability and that's fine.

    Fleuri saying someone with hh99 weapon killed of the richest barbs in sanctuary. Which is obviously not a 1v1 cause i doubt that could happen with all the skills barbs to eat damage. Specially if the weapon is +5... <<

    Giving the last blow on anyone getting focus by 2-4 people means nothing. ijs
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I'd just like to point out that with Ast's +12 Jaden, I was only able to score 4 digit damage on a fully-buffed Ast when I crit. That's wielding possibly the most damaging non-R9 weapon Astygold can buy...
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    In small fights R9s are really hard to kill. Not talking about those people with half sharded R9 armor or no R9 armor and just has the wep, but full sharded R9. I was in DT with a friend, and his BIDS off of a R8+10 hit ~3k on this R9 Jade-sharded Barb. None should doubt about how hard fully geared R9 are to take down. Then again I suppose someone could shard second cast with Jades and only be down 10 def level compared to R9 right? (assuming you get all 4 socs......)

    TT99+5...you better be pulling some sort of triple spark frenzy BIDS crit or something...
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  • Aeyisha - Lost City
    Aeyisha - Lost City Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    wtf is going on in this thread... just let it die.

    Woot, nice avatar :D
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Rank 9 full shards basicly requires purge to kill for non ranks. Oh and a highly refined rank 8 or claw.

    Realisticly geni will be used for full on imunes because one hit = death

    Its so damn broken.

    But hey you know what would make it easier to kill a rank 9? Demon QS

    On a side note guess what skill i just bought my archer :p
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Woot, nice avatar :D

    I don't really like it that much but its nice to be out of TT90 ;o
    I'd just like to point out that with Ast's +12 Jaden, I was only able to score 4 digit damage on a fully-buffed Ast when I crit. That's wielding possibly the most damaging non-R9 weapon Astygold can buy...
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I don't really like it that much but its nice to be out of TT90 ;o


    Why do you always go into anecdotes about my gear...

    Yup Its totaly nessecary
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I don't really like it that much but its nice to be out of TT90 ;o


    Why do you always go into anecdotes about my gear...

    It's because poking fun at your small **** gets old from time to time...
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  • Aeyisha - Lost City
    Aeyisha - Lost City Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    It's because poking fun at your small **** gets old from time to time...

    Are you sure you're not just poking them? ;o
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Sure... I'll play along. 11.1k max hp with 69 def levels and 58% natural physical/magical resistance... no buffs (even self). I am not even going to take mana in to consideration since no archer is going to be dependent on mana EVER. 1k hp missing for a 10.1k/11.1k overall hp. I would like to see which of the tt99 equivalent or lower weapon can get pass that. Remember... hes only missing 1k hp so his charm haven't ticked yet. Also keep in mind that most tt99 light/robe armor user won't have much more then 5k in hp. And a full r9 archer will end any tt99 light/robe armor user with less then 10k hp with a single crit.

    Ok! I should have said +5 lunar, btw, but let's stick with +5 tt99.

    So, anyways, you get hit for 4513 damage (if you feel that that is too much we can go over the details of how that happened after the battle -- you would know know those details yet). Your charm has not yet ticked. You do not yet see the person that has attacked you, because you have the dead person still targeted.

    And let's say a veno has been harassing you ineffectually, all day, and you imagine that it is her that is doing this.

    You have 6259 health yet. Your guardian charm has not ticked. You are sealed and frozen.

    Your move. (crab meat?)

    Or, if you prefer, since the high damage thing was a low probability event, we could run through where you would have been hit by (choosing another set of random values) 1870 damage. (or we could run through both scenarios, since this is forums.)
  • Dezto - Harshlands
    Dezto - Harshlands Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Ok! I should have said +5 lunar, btw, but let's stick with +5 tt99.

    So, anyways, you get hit for 4513 damage (if you feel that that is too much we can go over the details of how that happened after the battle -- you would know know those details yet). Your charm has not yet ticked. You do not yet see the person that has attacked you, because you have the dead person still targeted.

    And let's say a veno has been harassing you ineffectually, all day, and you imagine that it is her that is doing this.

    You have 6259 health yet. Your guardian charm has not ticked. You are sealed and frozen.

    Your move. (crab meat?)

    **** that, I'd throw down my bow, grab my HH100 fists and go berserk on these fools.

    Then I would realize that my fists are not recasted and go into my corner to cry myself to sleep.
  • Vasilisk - Harshlands
    Vasilisk - Harshlands Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Oh, cool... forum's turn-based pvp :) I like it ;)
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    / es - Heavens Tear32 Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Ok! I should have said +5 lunar, btw, but let's stick with +5 tt99.

    So, anyways, you get hit for 4513 damage (if you feel that that is too much we can go over the details of how that happened after the battle -- you would know know those details yet). Your charm has not yet ticked. You do not yet see the person that has attacked you, because you have the dead person still targeted.

    And let's say a veno has been harassing you ineffectually, all day, and you imagine that it is her that is doing this.

    You have 6259 health yet. Your guardian charm has not ticked. You are sealed and frozen.

    Your move. (crab meat?)

    Or, if you prefer, since the high damage thing was a low probability event, we could run through where you would have been hit by (choosing another set of random values) 1870 damage. (or we could run through both scenarios, since this is forums.)

    you really think the top pvpers get confused and just 'stand there' when someone hits them after they killed someone?

    tab > stun > dead or Esc > stun > dead

    seriously your just making yourself look more like a clueless idiot, go and actually play the game before posting as if you know a thing or 2... lol. drop all the maths bs and go and play the ****** game you may learn something then.. ijs b:chuckle

    and lol at a +5 HH 99 bow dealing 4.5k damage on a full R9 with JoDs...
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    So, anyways, you get hit for 4513 damage (if you feel that that is too much we can go over the details of how that happened after the battle -- you would know know those details yet).

    A tt99 is going to hit an jade r9 archer for 4.5k damage? Not even +12 r9s typically hit me for that much (and I am not full jades). Lets just assume that the 4.5k damage is a crit. So its non crit damage would be 2,256. With the 58% physical/magical resistance... you would need to deal 5,372 pvp damage. Now lets factor in the 39 defense levels (69-30 from anni blessing)... thats 8,806 pvp damage. Which could come out to be 35,226 pve base damage.

    You are looking for a triple sparked sage wizard bids to even do that much. Pure magic wizards would have about 7.5k upper end damage with a +5 tt99 sword. Triple spark would bring that to 17k. Sage bids would be 17k+14k+5k for a total of 36k. So your 4.5k damage better be from a triple sparked sage wizard bids that hit toward his max damage and also CRIT.

    And you do know that whoever target and hits you while you have nothing selected would be auto selected right. So unless the said archer is already preoccupied with another target... your name would come up.

    EDIT: For an archer like you to do that sort of damage. You better be full atk shards or full r9 with a +10 or above bow.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    If a "veno has been harassing you," obviously somewhere in there is an armor/mind break. Maybe she even cast amp and dragon curse proced from Demon Nova. How someone would let all that happen is beyond me...maybe you were harassed by a harem of venos.
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I would like to be harrassed by a harem of venos b:dirty
  • KedgeSniper - Lost City
    KedgeSniper - Lost City Posts: 733 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    If a "veno has been harassing you," obviously somewhere in there is an armor/mind break. Maybe she even cast amp and dragon curse proced from Demon Nova. How someone would let all that happen is beyond me...maybe you were harassed by a harem of venos.

    maybe the veno doing all the work..

    I hardly doubt +5 99 weapon will hit 5.3k on full rank9 armor. b:chuckle

    Just proves people need practice n less theory.
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    A tt99 is going to hit an jade r9 archer for 4.5k damage?

    So, ... you would stand there refusing to react because this can't be happening?

    Anyways, I gave you the alternative of running this through with a lower damage initial hit, if that much damage bothers you.

    And I'll run through how I think this could happen afterwards, if you want to get into those details.
    And you do know that whoever target and hits you while you have nothing selected would be auto selected right.

    I thought I had told you that your archer friend had just killed someone? And that someone would not have clicked "go to town" yet, so he would still be targeted.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Stop being ambiguous and just say how it's going to happen. I guessed the Veno did something from the fact that he's sealed and frozen, unless you want to claim that the first hit for ~4.5k was also a proc'd Aim Low.
    Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
    Qui: b:dirty