New Best Faction
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BDoomed - Archosaur wrote: »are u really sure of that proski ? am not though its about how long u can hold grounds cause either ways NO faction on this server can hold a gank even if its 2 attacks for 4 hrs even if its a 80 vs 80 they got to split and they got weaken
ganking doesn't work today for the reason you want it to.
if you can't win 1v1 , or at the very least be capable of defending for an hour and a half on your own, you have no business going up against that faction at that point in time.
you and bloodyday can gank nemesis this weekened and see nothings guna happen for either of you two. if you think it proves your point that it'd work to stop the best faction by people spreading out (lets say if we do win) ,realize the only reason we'd finish them off is because we(zulusive) have enough people in 1 faction to do it, not because theres enough people in other places to "delay them"
@ tamias sorry you feel that way but its been happening for people who were on the outside looking in for longer than the narlas that didnt rejoin nemesis. its why people like spanker had real respect from me and "refined" and "reputable" communities are instead just punch lines.0 -
Who is really the best faction based on the number of 90+ players for the whole guild and for each class:
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B4rAILxJpZBKMzkwODc5NjQtZjE3Mi00N2RmLWI4NTQtNDVlNmVmOThlMTlj&hl=en0 -
Who is really the best faction based on the number of 90+ players for the whole guild and for each class:
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B4rAILxJpZBKMzkwODc5NjQtZjE3Mi00N2RmLWI4NTQtNDVlNmVmOThlMTlj&hl=en
I dont trust mysterious links made by a random poster with 1 post count b:shocked0 -
Who is really the best faction based on the number of 90+ players for the whole guild and for each class:
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B4rAILxJpZBKMzkwODc5NjQtZjE3Mi00N2RmLWI4NTQtNDVlNmVmOThlMTlj&hl=en
You're limiting the definition of "best faction" to one criteria: most players over 90. That doesn't take into account experience, leadership, communication, skill, gear, etc.
Edit: or number of active players. How many of those show up to TW?0 -
to the people saying that there are enough people to make 4 or so faction to have fun TWs... no im sorry there just arent enough high level end game geared peeople yet. notice i said YET. as bdoomed pointed out the active people that are in their high 80s and low 90s will eventually get to their end games too but AT THE MOMENT there arent enough for more than 2 (zulusive vs nemesis)
all u guys (with the execption of bdoomed) havent been to good TWs, and i mean REALLY GOOD TWs (where everyone knew what they had to do, and were high level with really good gear). honestly the last good TW was the one between elusive and narla. but as proski said it was obvious they were trying to take over the map back then (even though its obvious nemesis is doing the same), the only difference is they we're scared of the challenge back then. they meet us straight on and even *gasp* attacked us back.
now look at how things are, we try to attack you guys and u fake bid us then attack a much weaker faction. man up u guys are just as strong as zulusive and we want to fight. not to stop your reign of terror over the land or because we dont like you, but because its fun and yout the only competition (besides its kinda the point of the game, ijs).
so nemesis see you this weekend (hopefully). win or lose good fight.b:pleased0 -
StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »to the people saying that there are enough people to make 4 or so faction to have fun TWs... no im sorry there just arent enough high level end game geared peeople yet. notice i said YET. as bdoomed pointed out the active people that are in their high 80s and low 90s will eventually get to their end games too but AT THE MOMENT there arent enough for more than 2 (zulusive vs nemesis)
all u guys (with the execption of bdoomed) havent been to good TWs, and i mean REALLY GOOD TWs (where everyone knew what they had to do, and were high level with really good gear). honestly the last good TW was the one between elusive and narla. but as proski said it was obvious they were trying to take over the map back then (even though its obvious nemesis is doing the same), the only difference is they we're scared of the challenge back then. they meet us straight on and even *gasp* attacked us back.
now look at how things are, we try to attack you guys and u fake bid us then attack a much weaker faction. man up u guys are just as strong as zulusive and we want to fight. not to stop your reign of terror over the land or because we dont like you, but because its fun and yout the only competition (besides its kinda the point of the game, ijs).
so nemesis see you this weekend (hopefully). win or lose good fight.b:pleased
There are plenty of people out there. I squad with so many different level 90+ from a wide range of factions, little factions, big factions, medium factions, nobody factions. Open your eyes, and you will see
And I remember every single TW this server had since Day 1 until the day I bid farewell to Narla to focus on my own life. I can honestly say, that if I hadn't....things would be immensely different. Since Day 1 of founding Narla, I told all my members that I had only one goal as a TW faction. And that was to paint the entire map pink, then after successfully holding the map for 1 week, I would disband the entire faction. Almost every single member was on board with me.
I know that isnt fun for everyone else, but I only cared about Narla. *shrugs* But it created a competitive atmosphere that helped fuel this server (Yeah I know, people got *bored* who werent in either Impulse or Narla, but then again, I didnt see them work nearly as hard as those in Narla or Impulse did)
With Nemesis and Zulusive around, I am pretty sure that anyone with half the determination I had can scrounge up another faction or 2 to throw in the mix. Question is....who is willing to make that happen?0 -
Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »There are plenty of people out there. I squad with so many different level 90+ from a wide range of factions, little factions, big factions, medium factions, nobody factions. Open your eyes, and you will see
And I remember every single TW this server had since Day 1 until the day I bid farewell to Narla to focus on my own life. I can honestly say, that if I hadn't....things would be immensely different. Since Day 1 of founding Narla, I told all my members that I had only one goal as a TW faction. And that was to paint the entire map pink, then after successfully holding the map for 1 week, I would disband the entire faction. Almost every single member was on board with me.
I know that isnt fun for everyone else, but I only cared about Narla. *shrugs* But it created a competitive atmosphere that helped fuel this server (Yeah I know, people got *bored* who werent in either Impulse or Narla, but then again, I didnt see them work nearly as hard as those in Narla or Impulse did)
With Nemesis and Zulusive around, I am pretty sure that anyone with half the determination I had can scrounge up another faction or 2 to throw in the mix. Question is....who is willing to make that happen?
good point heres the thing though, 1. nemesis doesnt want *fun* TWs as their actions have indicated over last week, and 2. level 90s are one shots to most of the level 100+'s on this server.... hell a lot of the level 100's + can one shot each other (thanks to the rank sale). i can pretty much be fully buffed and still get one shotted by half my faction (and i have well over 10k HP). to put it simple there are those factions who are trying to make themselves stong. (the immunities, pheonix's, and the darksides of this server) however the diffrence is they cant one shot these level 100s back and they wont be able to for quite some time.
so whats stoping us or nemesis from guild pushing down B and winning in under 30 mins?
p.s thats pretty much what i think nemesis vs zulusive will be just a lot of people one shotting the **** out of each other. nemesis and their sins and zulusive and our casters. which side will win will be on their hands tbh. (my thought is sins dont really play a big role in TW but when they're geard up like nemesis' sins you'll never know, that said im still going for our side)0 -
ok... forget about "helping the server" proposition... every1 has the right to do w/e he/she wants in this game... is a game afterall...
lets get back to the "who is the best Faction" on Archosaur atm ... answer ... NO1 ... in my opinion until 1 faction will own 51% of the Map it can not be seen as "the best" why? becouse factions are created and disbanded everyday (ex Narla, Ascend etc...) ... and to get the title of "The Best Faction " it MUST prove to be durable not only formed of high lv players.
Troll me!0 -
Studd one shoting is not as easy as said trust me, back in the days when tivas got his glaive + 10 he was one shoting a lot of people around but i didn't find him much appealing back then though he did show some massive change in game paly and i should say our last 1 vs 1 was fun, but its off topic. Also yes there are possible ways of getting around a push B if you know how to do it. Nothing has changed back then and am talking about 2 years back the most common gears would be all stats 3* and it used to be vs faction with full TT 70 or TT 80 geared people. Then it took a jump to TT 80/90 vs TT 99 (short period), Then the longest ever was TT 99 Vs TT99/Nirvana and now its the TT 99 vs rank. Nothing has changed we all advanced from one step to the other, and as to my knowledge a gank is always hard and possible and so is liquidating a push down B you just need to know how and not to forget you need people who know what they are doing, i still say that first TW against nemesis we had similar numbers against them and they DID push B and 90% of the nemesis people were wayy better geared compared to darkside members as well as experience, but we did win.
TW is not about just moving down one lane and pkng, its also about reading mind and having a strategy. I know people will differ from me on this point but we do have our own point of view and my point of view is just not something i heard but of what i have learn't over these few years though i am not the best but its a part of the humble knowledge i acquired through0 -
Anthemyra - Archosaur wrote: »ok... forget about "helping the server" proposition... every1 has the right to do w/e he/she wants in this game... is a game afterall...
lets get back to the "who is the best Faction" on Archosaur atm ... answer ... NO1 ... in my opinion until 1 faction will own 51% of the Map it can not be seen as "the best" why? because factions are created and disbanded everyday (ex Narla, Ascend etc...) ... and to get the title of "The Best Faction " it MUST prove to be durable not only formed of high lv players.
Troll me!
Nah Best Faction is that whom no1 hates but as well has a significance on the server as well, its easy to be infamous and be well known but its hard to be famous and well known.0 -
BDoomed - Archosaur wrote: »Nah Best Faction is that whom no1 hates but as well has a significance on the server as well, its easy to be infamous and be well known but its hard to be famous and well known.
i agree with you XD but i did not wanted to go into to much details ... anyway... what you are saying it is hard to achieve... very hard... but not imposible ... for that all members should have to respect a certain "code" wich .. half the server already broke XD ... including me b:surrender0 -
BDoomed - Archosaur wrote: »Studd one shoting is not as easy as said trust me, back in the days when tivas got his glaive + 10 he was one shoting a lot of people around but i didn't find him much appealing back then though he did show some massive change in game paly and i should say our last 1 vs 1 was fun, but its off topic. Also yes there are possible ways of getting around a push B if you know how to do it. Nothing has changed back then and am talking about 2 years back the most common gears would be all stats 3* and it used to be vs faction with full TT 70 or TT 80 geared people. Then it took a jump to TT 80/90 vs TT 99 (short period), Then the longest ever was TT 99 Vs TT99/Nirvana and now its the TT 99 vs rank. Nothing has changed we all advanced from one step to the other, and as to my knowledge a gank is always hard and possible and so is liquidating a push down B you just need to know how and not to forget you need people who know what they are doing, i still say that first TW against nemesis we had similar numbers against them and they DID push B and 90% of the nemesis people were wayy better geared compared to darkside members as well as experience, but we did win.
TW is not about just moving down one lane and pkng, its also about reading mind and having a strategy. I know people will differ from me on this point but we have our own point of view and my point of view is
just not something i heard but of what i have learn't over these few years though i am not the best but its a part of the humble knowledge iacquired through
True but when u have these rank 9/nirvana people ing around aoe and one shot half the people that they touch then u have a problem, yes tactics do play a large part in it it's the reasOn elusive beat narla in the first place, that being said u still need the raw power to be able to compete. Look at what happens to waiheke and pheonix, even though waiheke had better heard people the Raw power of Mexican and kaboom was too much to over come (however Half the DDs in waiheke had no idea how to TW)0 -
Anthemyra - Archosaur wrote: »i agree with you XD but i did not wanted to go into to much details ... anyway... what you are saying it is hard to achieve... very hard... but not imposible ... for that all members should have to respect a certain "code" wich .. half the server already broke XD ... including me b:surrender
I think both u guys are way off. This game is competition between several factions, there for there will always be a top faction. And u don't have to be the most liked or hold half the map to be called the strongest. For example look at zulusive we currently own 2 lands and nemesis was scared to fight us, and like us or not we will always have power because we don't Care what u think we just want to have fun. Oh a better example elusive (which is IMO the strongest faction this server has had; before the Proski bann) only had 3 lands and we were stronger then narla, land does not matter and how the server sees u matters even less. The only thing that maters is the outcome of the battle simple as that
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BDoomed - Archosaur wrote: »TW is not about just moving down one lane and pkng, its also about reading mind and having a strategy. I know people will differ from me on this point but we do have our own point of view and my point of view is just not something i heard but of what i have learn't over these few years though i am not the best but its a part of the humble knowledge i acquired through
yes, actually, it is.
there is where we differ, because im probably the only TW leader who 'reveals' how easy it is and doesn't try to glorify the position for credit.
2 years ago strategy only meant something because peoples gear couldnt deliver better results when they made their own decisions with it, so it was best to wait and take calculated risks in groups. now, people have enough gear to assess a fight on their own as its happening, react quicker because they aren't waiting for orders, and deliver a better outcome permitting they are at least fighting together and not ramboing half way across the map rendering any potential gains useless like proc.
its really just about prepping people for how they are supposed to approach fights and making sure they are receptive to the communication for who they oughta target in the event you need to adapt to a particular strength of the enemy, or transition from one flank to another.
diversions and split pushes and everything else people have suckered others into thinking made them great coordinators are nothing at all. this game is INCREDIBLY easy and B lane exposes people for what they really are; either good PvP players or bad ones, nothing more, nothing less. i was dancing in my room each time narla tried to go down A or C as often as they did0 -
i differ from you proski i totally do creating pressure in enemy base always loosens pressure on ur defense. Why narla lost to elusive was a different story all together i don't wanna go into details still elusive did fight well but narla had huge mistakes.
But i said people got different views on TW you got ur own i got mine mango got his.0 -
Proski - Archosaur wrote: »yes, actually, it is.
there is where we differ, because im probably the only TW leader who 'reveals' how easy it is and doesn't try to glorify the position for credit.
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Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »*facepalm*
I take it u are one of those people that thinks splitting the catas in 2 and sending them down A and C lane while ur DDs are in B lane will win TWs *harder facepalm*0 -
StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »I take it u are one of this that thinks splitting the catas in 2 and sending them down A and C lane while ur DDs are in B lane *harder facepalm*
who ever told u that didn't tell u the total thing but yea having split on A and C alone wont do any good0 -
StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »I think both u guys are way off. This game is competition between several factions, there for there will always be a top faction. And u don't have to be the most liked or hold half the map to be called the strongest. For example look at zulusive we currently own 2 lands and nemesis was scared to fight us, and like us or not we will always have power because we don't Care what u think we just want to have fun. Oh a better example elusive (which is IMO the strongest faction this server has had; before the Proski bann) only had 3 lands and we were stronger then narla, land does not matter and how the server sees u matters even less. The only thing that maters is the outcome of the battle simple as that
u did not understand the irony in my post. b:mischievous0 -
Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »*facepalm*Anthemyra - Archosaur wrote: »u did not understand the irony in my post. b:mischievous
Sorry I tend to ignore the nonfactors posts :P0 -
StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »I take it u are one of those people that thinks splitting the catas in 2 and sending them down A and C lane while ur DDs are in B lane will win TWs *harder facepalm*
Slow your roll, son.0 -
Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »Slow your roll, son.
Oh snap pops with his old school phrases watch out -.-0 -
StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »Oh snap pops with his old school phrases watch out -.-
lol thanks for the laff :P0 -
Why are the zulus making a big deal about nem being full of csers? if i recall correctly both factions have their fair share of r8 - r9 people... b:surrender★Immunity is an Arch Server TW Faction. If you want to join Apply @ immunity.shivtr.com★ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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RioNHale - Archosaur wrote: »Why are the zulus making a big deal about nem being full of csers? if i recall correctly both factions have their fair share of r8 - r9 people... b:surrender
wow when did i or any zulusive member make a big deal about nemesis cser???0 -
StudmuffinIX - Archosaur wrote: »Sorry I tend to ignore the nonfactors posts :P
... and your ego just went to 9000+ b:laugh
Edit: ... naahhh ... i've changed my mind about editing ... you dont worth the effort ... perhaps when there will be sales at the "personality" store and you might afford 1 - and.. i stop here to quote you
p.s. to my friends in zulusive and the zulusive faction ... just becouse 1 can be an *** sometimes doesen't mean i dont love you anymore
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im sure I read it somehwere amoungst those walls of text .-.★Immunity is an Arch Server TW Faction. If you want to join Apply @ immunity.shivtr.com★ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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HMMb:shocked0
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bored out of my mind in class so here comes a list from top of my head of rank 9 csers b:surrender
zulu:
1 archer:
shahiin
1 sin:
alohora
vs
phoenix:
1 archer:
ace
1 cleric:
lusin
1 psy:
seXYcaN
1 veno;
mizandry_ or _mizasdw
vs
nemesis:
1 archer
geogadii
1 barb
panzer
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Qlngfu - Archosaur wrote: »bored out of my mind in class so here comes a list from top of my head of rank 9 csers b:surrender
zulu:
1 archer:
shahiin
1 sin:
alohora
vs
phoenix:
1 archer:
ace
1 cleric:
lusin
1 psy:
seXYcaN
1 veno;
mizandry_ or _mizasdw
vs
nemesis:
1 archer
geogadii
1 barb
panzer
lol who the hell is alohora? also you forgot ninjaedurmom, nissas, shramp, sk toochi
@rion, 1 person (me) said nemesis has more CS'ers (which they do) and are more active (which they are) as reason why, in my opinion, they are better atm. every other zulusive said we're better so dunno what you are talking about b:chuckle0
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