Twilight Temple Discussion

Rillien - Heavens Tear

I believe this is an issue that DOES need more time to figure out.

Especially since some people are saying it is possible to complete the instances.

I do wish we had a larger sample size because the type of player contributing on here doesn't usually represent the "average-geared" player. Though it is nice to know that there are already strategies being developed by people who I'd say like to be the best at instances/have the best gear.

Overall, I think increased challenge is better than another nerf. Choosing TT, like people have said, is a bit unfair since it's been around for so long.

It also seems like the biggest problem is with 3-1, because 80-90 is no longer endgame elite, TT90 gears no longer the best you can get, so the instance should not be that difficult. Also it seems the most outlandish to expect those players to survive.

Anyone in the 80-90 level range please describe your experiences and gear and squad composition. With more data from different people it'll be far easier to decide whether this is an unfair challenge or an appropriate adjustment.

RedsRose - Lost City

yashino wrote: »

b:angry g7s are free.

So cheap b:shutup

Summer_Blush - Heavens Tear

is there any point to this thread?

Frankie is just gonna say "Well i actually like it so stuff ya'll"

... just like the last discussion thread

Malego - Heavens Tear

Just tried 3-1 myself in a party of levels 82, 83, 83, 85 and 100.

Dark Coll.

Aoe seal, Aoe purge, aoe hp debuff. My hp went from 11.4k in tiger to 6k.

A bit later he 1 shotted the entire party at once other than myself. I started to run but got hit for 4k which took me down.

Steelation

Aoe stun, aoe hp debuff, aoe manaleak, 5 aps didn't hit too hard but when he hits that FAST I can't take it lol.

Overpowered bossesb:surrender

Azura - Lost City

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think the change is good (below will be about lv100+ instances)
So many high lvls complained they dont get enough challenge, now they do, too bad for the fact that they experienced prior easy runs.

For many people, including me the challenge about HH back then was to even have the time to do it. For me, HH was perfectly fine even if most of the bosses would look like tards for just standing there taking hits while all they have to do is kill the cleric. Why was it fine? Because if you take into account the amount of time to complete one HH for the average player over the drops that you get, it's a lot of time, which for information not many people have enough.

Really Deceptistar, if you want to play a challenging game go find an RTS or FFS so you can show your great skills, otherwise shut up because many people only can play 3 hours per day and don't have overpowered gear.

VlLKASS - Sanctuary

DO YOU KNOW THE COST OF TT90 GREEN MATS NOW???? GBA ALONE IS 1.5MIL PER DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU NEED FOR TT90 CHEST? 5 THAT'S 7.5MIL

GBAs used to be like +2m before all the x2 started... One of the reasons I always used a leg chest before <.<

Katzyn - Sanctuary

VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »

GBAs used to be like +2m before all the x2 started... One of the reasons I always used a leg chest before <.<

Ugh, I remember that...We were so happy when we got them as drops, but sooo unmotivated to try to buy them for gear...

Haven't tried the tough boss yet with a squad...kinda curious now, lol.

Neoardar - Harshlands

frankieraye wrote: »

Hey guys,


Please discuss Twilight Temple changes from the most recent patch here.


Thanks!

When a thread is made for discussion on new changes Also there should be a Poll so player can vote.

I see players argue with each other like fools without a solution. PWI just wait wait wait watch and have fun reading it b:laughb:cryb:laugh

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Azura - Lost City wrote: »

For many people, including me the challenge about HH back then was to even have the time to do it. For me, HH was perfectly fine even if most of the bosses would look like tards for just standing there taking hits while all they have to do is kill the cleric. Why was it fine? Because if you take into account the amount of time to complete one HH for the average player over the drops that you get, it's a lot of time, which for information not many people have enough.

Really Deceptistar, if you want to play a challenging game go find an RTS or FFS so you can show your great skills, otherwise shut up because many people only can play 3 hours per day and don't have overpowered gear.

you might like hello kitty online b:bye

WraithTanker - Sanctuary

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

you might like hello kitty online b:bye

To lazy to find ur post xD. But you cant tell me MAJORITy of the people have all legendary necklace, cape, rings, belt. I bet majority have NPC stuff. That is why for the NPC. b:surrender

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

WraithTanker - Sanctuary wrote: »

To lazy to find ur post xD. But you cant tell me MAJORITy of the people have all legendary necklace, cape, rings, belt. I bet majority have NPC stuff. That is why for the NPC. b:surrender

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=9760002&postcount=169

no i had all normal accessories too, but i did put in the effort so its non npc merchants

Altros - Sanctuary

K so I quit the game a few weeks ago, what exactly happened to TT? (I'm stalking forums when I have nothing better to do.)

crystalynnex

Altros - Sanctuary wrote: »

K so I quit the game a few weeks ago, what exactly happened to TT? (I'm stalking forums when I have nothing better to do.)

Twilight Temple Act III
Tweaked the Boss AI/Aggro behavior to increase the difficulty.

^from this week's patch notes

GBA boss does some crazy **** now and the BH 3-3 boss has every single debuff in the game or something like that.

Masuna - Harshlands

READ the fine print !! with these last few patches Perfectworld has just told everyone of its players to spend money or uninstall

R.I.P. Perfectworld

Aquagirl - Raging Tide

filter circumvention -Frankieraye

Altros - Sanctuary

crystalynnex wrote: »

Twilight Temple Act III
Tweaked the Boss AI/Aggro behavior to increase the difficulty.

^from this week's patch notes

GBA boss does some crazy **** now and the BH 3-3 boss has every single debuff in the game or something like that.

Ah I see, well there goes chances of TT99...not like I play anymore.

Masuna - Harshlands wrote: »

READ the fine print !! with these last few patches Perfectworld has just told everyone of its players to spend money or uninstall

R.I.P. Perfectworld

^This

/browsing forums

Neoardar - Harshlands

Neoardar - Harshlands wrote: »

When a thread is made for discussion on new changes Also there should be a Poll so player can vote.

I see players argue with each other like fools without a solution. PWI just wait wait wait watch and have fun reading it b:laughb:cryb:laugh

Still no Poll

Altros - Sanctuary

Neoardar - Harshlands wrote: »

Still no Poll

Because it wouldn't make a difference, 9001% of the community could say they don't approve, and the developers still wouldn't do anything. Why? Because the PWI community has proven in the past that when the developers do something they don't like, they rant for a few weeks, maybe a couple of months at most, and then get over it. Nothing short of a boycott on boutique (not gonna happen from my experience), or a mass amount of quits (note that unless is CSer's quitting they won't care) will make any form of difference.

PS: If this gets me banned cus I'm rude to some peoples off in China that ignore the players, oh well I already quit the game. b:victory

Ashivas - Dreamweaver

Spend money or leave? I'll leave. W*rld o* W*rc*a*t, *cough*I mean some other unnamed game*cough*, has better gameplay anyways.


And what does GBA stand for??

Altros - Sanctuary

Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Spend money or leave? I'll leave. W*rld o* W*rc*a*t, *cough*I mean some other unnamed game*cough*, has better gameplay anyways.


And what does GBA stand for??

GBA=Giant Beasts Armor

And no no, A*ka O*lin* is where its at.

rikku2009

i love tt 3 -1 to the point my friend and i do it all day long. it got us his lunar bow and many other items.. but then do tt 3 -1 today and find u get 2 hit and die by agro by the GBA boss ( the boss that drops good mats ) is really sad. i wish this patch didn't come out at all. also the drop rate sucks go in for a hour and 30 mins come back with 1 drop thats worth 150k. i can get more coins just farming herbs... and thats prob next take half of the herbs out of game and raise the amount of herbs to make a potion.

veno lvl 90 herc

CJD - Heavens Tear

Just another ridiculous change, shouldn't have happened to TT.. give more attention the bugs there has been for far longer time, that will be gladly appreciated ..

b:surrender

Altros - Sanctuary

rikku2009 wrote: »

i love tt 3 -1 to the point my friend and i do it all day long. it got us his lunar bow and many other items.. but then do tt 3 -1 today and find u get 2 hit and die by agro by the GBA boss ( the boss that drops good mats ) is really sad. i wish this patch didn't come out at all

veno lvl 90 herc

Did you know that by lvl 101 an armored bear has more hp than a lvl 101 herc?

rikku2009

Altros - Sanctuary wrote: »

Did you know that by lvl 101 an armored bear has more hp than a lvl 101 herc?

that maybe so i dont know since not lvl 101 but the hercs p res is still higher then the bear. and the p res what counts not hp

Altros - Sanctuary

rikku2009 wrote: »

that maybe so i dont know since not lvl 101 but the hercs p res is still higher then the bear. and the p res what counts not hp

Just pointing out (contrary to popular belief) that venos don't need a herc to tank. Can easily have an armored bear of equal level do it as well.

propan1ol

(raises hand) 89 demon herc'd veno here.

I never planned on farming my tt90 gears (I never expected to be 90 anyways). In fact I would much rather buy my gears in AH than farm the mats myself. Therefore when I solo TT squad mode it's usually for cash.

Recently started tanking 3-1, and I agree that 3-1 old version was rather bland. That said, I'm terrified of seeing what new 3-1 looks like, considering Dark Colluseast is 3-1's main cash cow. I won't be in the new 3-1 for now, so the changes don't affect me in that way. But I will be working up the coins for tt90, and knowing GBAs are going to inflate like pufferfish, it's gonna be a lot harder to get geared.

IRL cash spent on game so far: $10

Jhalil - Heavens Tear

Did any of you stop posting nonsense and arguing and actually went and test the mob kill count bug theory? I'd like to find out if that actually is the case. I tried getting a squad to do it, but no one even wants to do 3-3 at all.

So, someone should go in to 3-3 and skip a bunch of mobs and go to Steelation and see what it does.

Lyritha - Heavens Tear

I tried 3-3 as a BH earlier... ok here is the problem...

You can no longer go with a random squad because you now will have to look at everyones gear. Some under geared person goes in... and in theory this is to get your 99 gear right. Well they get wiped the cleric stops healing to res someone the barb (wearing TT90) dies... this is the usual combo.... and I run the hell away because you see it coming when one person falls.

So basically it limits people to not have any desire to go with strangers which means less people doing it overall... and I thought this was a online game not a do it yourself with your usual group game... might as well fire up one of my game consoles and play a 4 player racer.

Traz - Dreamweaver

Jhalil - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Did any of you stop posting nonsense and arguing and actually went and test the mob kill count bug theory? I'd like to find out if that actually is the case. I tried getting a squad to do it, but no one even wants to do 3-3 at all.

So, someone should go in to 3-3 and skip a bunch of mobs and go to Steelation and see what it does.

I bet he will be like normal then b:laughb:laughb:laugh

tweakz

rikku2009 wrote: »

that maybe so i dont know since not lvl 101 but the hercs p res is still higher then the bear. and the p res what counts not hp

It's not so. Armored Bear is 3524HP at 100, Herc is 4630 at 101. No way does an AB gain over 1k HP in a level. The Armored Bear has very limited use and becomes obsolete. It's not worth hatching.