The largest fail update ever

volst

At least they aren't removing school teacher... or aren't they?

inb4 ninjas take her away.

Asheera - Raging Tide

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

isn't boss respawn in TT like 20 hours? why can't they just set the limit to 10 hours so people can stop crying about not finishing on time?

Or why not remove respawns? That would have been too hard for them to think probably.

Made me lol though, it's like in some comedy movie where someone spots a problem (respawn farm) and instead of fixing it directly (remove respawn) he does a different complication approach which has other consequences lmao.

Knownase - Heavens Tear

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

YAY! Good changes indeed.

Blessing... was a set of training wheels to make things easier. Good riddance.

4 hr limit sucks, but too many people were using held instances to farm making it unfair to those that could only run once or twice a day/week/whatever. No more spammming 2 3-3's an hour.

Even before the 3* mirage nerf, your profit on repairing and then paying decomp fees, you didn't make much profit. Mirages used to be 30k+ ea. Perfect stones makes much better sense, IMO.

Can't wait to try the new Nirvana boss! I have 186 keys, can't wait to try this!

Good Job PWI! b:victory

Same, I have positive feelings from this update. It doesn't really affect me sooo yea... lol

But I can feel why others would be mad.

I wonder what else they have in store for us.

Pepper - Lost City

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

Can't wait to try the new Nirvana boss! I have 186 keys, can't wait to try this!

Good Job PWI! b:victory

b:scorn Have a spot?

Michael_Dark - Lost City

The only thing that the 4hr limit might hurt are the venos trying to solo squad mode. Otherwise any of the instances can be done by a level-correct party easily under 4 hrs. This is really a non-issue.

Lunar does not take 4 hours anymore. A full run of old Lunar used to take 5-8 hours. New Lunar run can easily be done in under 4 hours, even doing nerfed Primal Fear.

Hitokeri - Heavens Tear

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

Can't wait to try the new Nirvana boss! I have 186 keys, can't wait to try this!

Good Job PWI! b:victory

Completely not worth it. The player who spends 99 keys will get 10 uncanny crystals. Yes, 10. Then there will be another drop or two of rapture crystals to be split among the rest of the group. That's what the Chinese servers are getting... will we get more? doubt it.

This is probably the most fail part of this patch.

INovaI - Archosaur

Susylu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

This will also stop all the leveling, you can at most run 1 frost a day now on Hypers.

Youre trolling, right? b:shocked

Malilizi - Harshlands

Hitokeri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Completely not worth it. The player who spends 99 keys will get 10 uncanny crystals. Yes, 10. Then there will be another drop or two of rapture crystals to be split among the rest of the group. That's what the Chinese servers are getting... will we get more? doubt it.

This is probably the most fail part of this patch.

What else is he supposed to do with 186 keys? b:chuckle

Shazaaam - Lost City

Instead of 4 hours make it 6 hours avoids ppl holding instances n gives enough time to complete any instance without rushing or ppl having 5.0 interval or +10 weapons.

well looted gears already was nerfed but what about crafted gears? how im supposed to get mirages now?

does crafted gears like 3* oht stuff still gives 5 mirage for 25k coins? >_>

Pepper - Lost City

Susylu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

This will also stop all the leveling, you can at most run 1 frost a day now on Hypers.

LOL did you forgot other 504621258524586 ways you have for lvling?
hmm let me think.... MQ/WQ/BH/SQ/DQ (omg dq gives exp did you know?)
seriously b:embarrass

Athelwynn - Heavens Tear

GG PWI Staff cause with the new patch cause it's gonna kill the game due to the 4 hour instance limit. With every patch like this PWI is becoming a mandatory pay to play game if you expect to get anywhere with your chars. Might aswell start charging everyone $15 a month and let everything drop ingame with better drop rates. I'll probably quit PWI if the 4 hour restriction isn't removed as I don't have time to run 7 full instance runs a day that is required with the new patch. Also not gonna charge $1,000 a month on this game to get the gear. If you don't have the time or money then PWI isn't a game for the average person to play now.

EDIT: If the 4 hour limit stays in effect atleast give us a mode to fight only the bosses we need with the full squad mode drops in effect. I believe the 4 hour limit having instances open is going to damage the game.

Malilizi - Harshlands

You people are just plain ridiculous.

PW WON'T LET ME CHEAT ANYMORE!! I'M GOING TO QUIT b:cry.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Hitokeri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Completely not worth it. The player who spends 99 keys will get 10 uncanny crystals. Yes, 10. Then there will be another drop or two of rapture crystals to be split among the rest of the group. That's what the Chinese servers are getting... will we get more? doubt it.

This is probably the most fail part of this patch.

Oh wow... 20 crystals? Sweet!

Yeah, I've already run like.... 150+ nirvana runs and I still have 180+ keys. You think this new boss is bad how? lol

Susylu - Heavens Tear

Pepper - Lost City wrote: »

LOL did you forgot other 504621258524586 ways you have for lvling?
hmm let me think.... MQ/WQ/BH/SQ/DQ (omg dq gives exp did you know?)
seriously b:embarrass

And did you forget your common sense?

Do you think any of that **** adds up to the exp you get doing FF on hypers? Yeah, that's what I thought.


Even a level 99 character can clear 20% in a full frost run, does any of that other **** give them 20%? Does all of that **** add up to 20%? No, didn't think so.

@new boss: The idea is that running it 99 times gets you exponentially more crystals than killing one boss, using 99 of your keys.

Graviora - Dreamweaver

I didn't just spend 1.75mil on hypers for nothing. b:irritated

Well there goes my getting to 98 before my ingame husband visits. =|

anwynd

Susylu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And did you forget your common sense?

Do you think any of that **** adds up to the exp you get doing FF on hypers? Yeah, that's what I thought.


Even a level 99 character can clear 20% in a full frost run, does any of that other **** give them 20%? Does all of that **** add up to 20%? No, didn't think so.

thts why it is a good thing stops players from lvling so fast

INovaI - Archosaur

Susylu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And did you forget your common sense?

Do you think any of that **** adds up to the exp you get doing FF on hypers? Yeah, that's what I thought.


Even a level 99 character can clear 20% in a full frost run, does any of that other **** give them 20%? Does all of that **** add up to 20%? No, didn't think so.

@new boss: The idea is that running it 99 times gets you exponentially more crystals than killing one boss, using 99 of your keys.

I only use 10 mins of hyper per FC, soooo idk what youre getting at here...?

yashino

Susylu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And did you forget your common sense?

Do you think any of that **** adds up to the exp you get doing FF on hypers? Yeah, that's what I thought.


Even a level 99 character can clear 20% in a full frost run, does any of that other **** give them 20%? Does all of that **** add up to 20%? No, didn't think so.

@new boss: The idea is that running it 99 times gets you exponentially more crystals than killing one boss, using 99 of your keys.

b:laughb:laugh New generation Pep, new generation.
b:shutup i never used hyper nor do i know how.

Pepper - Lost City

Susylu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

And did you forget your common sense?

Do you think any of that **** adds up to the exp you get doing FF on hypers? Yeah, that's what I thought.


Even a level 99 character can clear 20% in a full frost run, does any of that other **** give them 20%? Does all of that **** add up to 20%? No, didn't think so.

@new boss: The idea is that running it 99 times gets you exponentially more crystals than killing one boss, using 99 of your keys.

QQ moar?
b:thanks

Edit: sure go lvl like you just said and then QQ you cant get your gear b/c its only 4 hours and baibai

Susylu - Heavens Tear

INovaI - Archosaur wrote: »

I only use 10 mins of hyper per FC, soooo idk what youre getting at here...?

You might want to spend some more time reading then, hyper time doesn't even relate to what I was getting at.

Malilizi - Harshlands

Susylu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

@new boss: The idea is that running it 99 times gets you exponentially more crystals than killing one boss, using 99 of your keys.

If you have 99 keys backed up then chances are you're not going to be running 99 Nirvanas anytime soon. Plus, if you keep picking up your keys, then the amount of keys is just going to grow or stay at a fairly steady rate. Most people don't run more than 5 or so Nirvanas a day.

SashaGray - Heavens Tear

If the point is to stop people from saving instances, why not boot instance after 8 or 12 hours?

squads can fail, fall apart and reform. mid 80's party can spend 4 hours in 2-3 before getting to belial, and need to call in other players. time limit on rebirth is 5 hours. unless you are paying off a pro squad, getting 3rd fairy is going to be hard as hell. imagine belial or 3rd fairy boss @ 100k health and you get booted from instance. pretty much guaranteeing a rage-quit.

faming saved instances is BS, however, and everyone knows it, its a good thing to get rid of em. its way too much of a benefit to bestow on people who have extra computers not doing anything. arguably its an exploit, and should have been dealt with a long time ago, although i've enjoyed some, i wont miss them.

Susylu - Heavens Tear

Malilizi - Harshlands wrote: »

If you have 99 keys backed up then chances are you're not going to be running 99 Nirvanas anytime soon. Plus, if you keep picking up your keys, then the amount of keys is just going to grow or stay at a fairly steady rate. Most people don't run more than 5 or so Nirvanas a day.

Well then, "most" people are okay with using 99 of their keys and splitting the 20 uncannies however many ways they have to.

The majority? The random people who hypered to 100, the ones that do nirvana for money, they aren't going to be too interested b:chuckle

volst

Shazaaam - Lost City wrote: »

well looted gears already was nerfed but what about crafted gears? how im supposed to get mirages now?

Mirages are event and box only now. b:quiet

anwynd

dont you get mirages in TT i forgot lol

INovaI - Archosaur

Susylu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

This will also stop all the leveling, you can at most run 1 frost a day now on Hypers.

Pepper - Lost City wrote: »

LOL did you forgot other 504621258524586 ways you have for lvling?
hmm let me think.... MQ/WQ/BH/SQ/DQ (omg dq gives exp did you know?)
seriously b:embarrass

Susylu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You might want to spend some more time reading then, hyper time doesn't even relate to what I was getting at.

Err clearly hyper is what you were talking about, as your first post says "LOL QQ CAN ONLY RUN FC A DAY QQQQ". What i was getting at is, you only realistcally need to use 10 mins of hyper (2 times Activated) per run, so really nothing of value is lost here and you need to stop QQing :P

yashino

volst wrote: »

Mirages are event and box only now. b:quiet

b:quiet they're ready for new update(aka TW income changes everyone has been talking about).
which is why they're trying to get rid of easy way to obtain mirages.

anwynd

yashino wrote: »

b:quiet they're ready for new update(aka TW income changes everyone has been talking about).
which is why they're trying to get rid of easy way to obtain mirages.

dont jinx itb:angryb:angry

yashino

anwynd wrote: »

dont jinx itb:angryb:angry

b:laugh not jinxing. it's the truth or is it.

Susylu - Heavens Tear

INovaI - Archosaur wrote: »

Err clearly hyper is what you were talking about, as your first post says "LOL QQ CAN ONLY RUN FC A DAY QQQQ". What i was getting at is, you only realistcally need to use 10 mins of hyper (2 times Activated) per run, so really nothing of value is lost here and you need to stop QQing :P

Effectively, you miss the point, yet again. That you can only pause/re-activate hypers 10 times a day. You think that hypering twice in frost is anything compared to doing it the way everyone does? It doesn't add up. I have over 5 level 100 characters and have abused FF and hypers to level my alts up, so believe me, I actually know how to run frost and how to be "effective", unlike some noobs who want to spend their entire day, waiting for that one special area to use their hyper time.