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  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Themax - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    In FF pulling to door instead of pulling to shade.

    When you pull to shade and then ALL THE WAY back , you get hit twice as much plus it takes longer to do that, to avoid that simple and common mistake all you have to do as a cleric is RUN to shade/end of the hall after barb and set up BB.

    I thought it would of made more sense to lure back to where the party is set up and is alot safer aswell, if clerics run to shade and then BB it takes awhile to heal and if barb dies agro will go to cleric and cleric will die and then the rest will follow and u have no hope or reviving if it all goes wrong.
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »


    Arcane's with phys def in their armour.
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The amount u would gain from is minimal and congratulations on going faceless to post something silly as you can see im on a PvE server and no where near high enough to consider being able to PK successfully without being violated so yea ermmm thanks for that.


    Def>HP.
    Just try seeing the difference on a full HP cleric and a full P.def cleric.
    The full p.def cleric > the hp one.
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  • Themax - Heavens Tear
    Themax - Heavens Tear Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I thought it would of made more sense to lure back to where the party is set up and is alot safer aswell, if clerics run to shade and then BB it takes awhile to heal and if barb dies agro will go to cleric and cleric will die and then the rest will follow and u have no hope or reviving if it all goes wrong.

    None of that will happen , because BM and Archer swill follow - Stun and Barrage.

    Basically what I'm saying is that when we Frost , we run to shade / end of the hall this way Frost goes much faster than if you would have waited on the barb to pull everything and run back to the lazy cleric who BBs at the door.

    Try both ways and I assure you if you and your team follows barb , Frost will go faster.
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  • AndyNagato - Lost City
    AndyNagato - Lost City Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    themax's way =/= everyones way of doing frost.
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Doing Frost in general is a mistake.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Bramble on Arcane! b:sad
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The biggest and most common mistake I've seen lots of lvl 100+ people make is putting AttackLevel+1 gems in their weapon.

    Attack Level +1 adds 1% more damage but a simple flawless garnet / sapphire will add more than that even on a +12 warsoul weapon.

    Attack Level +1 only makes sense in armor. Since it can be placed in armor its a huge waste wasting a weapon slot for it, it's like putting citrine in your weapon.
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  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Themax - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    None of that will happen , because BM and Archer swill follow - Stun and Barrage.

    Basically what I'm saying is that when we Frost , we run to shade / end of the hall this way Frost goes much faster than if you would have waited on the barb to pull everything and run back to the lazy cleric who BBs at the door.

    Try both ways and I assure you if you and your team follows barb , Frost will go faster.

    That would work on squad with your friends who you know well extremely easily but do it with randoms and there is to big a risk of someone **** up and causing a party wipe.
    Cholla - Harshlands wrote: »
    Do you really imagine my garnets in my armor cause problems for me? Or do you really believe I would be better off with citrines in their place?

    Personally, yes i believe citrines would be better depending on what grade p.def shards you would use and how much the increase the overall amount of your phys defence, usually they aren't worth putting in as they wont make enough of a difference to warrant them being in their.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I saw a level 100 magic ring I was really tempted to get.

    The stats were:

    MP+240
    MP+230
    MP+240

    2 million coin
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  • LingBanamu - Sanctuary
    LingBanamu - Sanctuary Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Cholla - Harshlands wrote: »
    On topic: unidentified gear, and elemental shards in arcane weapons, might rings on arcane classes and magic rings on physical attack classes and shattered and non-existent gears are probably the silliest things I see regularly.

    A level 68 cleric with a broken weapon and half of her gears missing, and the gear she had was either close to breaking or broken. Does this count as a mistake? Or was the mistake on my part to think that she could heal my barb in bh39?

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  • Monkeytoes - Sanctuary
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Personally, yes i believe citrines would be better depending on what grade p.def shards you would use and how much the increase the overall amount of your phys defence, usually they aren't worth putting in as they wont make enough of a difference to warrant them being in their.

    LOL....Seriously? Ask some clerics who PVP/TW which does them more good, pdef or HP...HP sharded clerics are 1-2 shot targets for me, while a pdef one can be a huge pita.
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I saw a level 100 magic ring I was really tempted to get.

    The stats were:

    MP+240
    MP+230
    MP+240

    2 million coin

    dun do it b:shocked
  • Ax - Harshlands
    Ax - Harshlands Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Personally, yes i believe citrines would be better depending on what grade p.def shards you would use and how much the increase the overall amount of your phys defence, usually they aren't worth putting in as they wont make enough of a difference to warrant them being in their.

    Personally i prefer hp on clerics, but on other arcanes such as mages pdef is much better since the earth shield amplifies the effect of the shard. This holds true to maybe very late game, when people are getting pdef from heavily refined armor instead.
  • Monkeytoes - Sanctuary
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ax - Harshlands wrote: »
    Personally i prefer hp on clerics, but on other arcanes such as mages pdef is much better since the earth shield amplifies the effect of the shard. This holds true to maybe very late game, when people are getting pdef from heavily refined armor instead.

    uh, wrong..on so many levels
    you NEVER get pdef from refining armor, you get HP, the only time you will get pdef from refines is by refining pdef ornaments
    both the cleric pdef buff and the bm buff amplify your pdef, not just earth shield lol, so pdef will be amplified for ALL robe classes
  • Phoenix - Dreamweaver
    Phoenix - Dreamweaver Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    BMs with physical defense shards always **** me off. Don't get me started on Fist BMs who roll in full light armor...
    Numerous people wrote:
    Sage archers.

    You mean like this one? Who's also one of the top-ranked PVPers on the server?
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  • Monkeytoes - Sanctuary
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Phoenix - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You mean like this one? Who's also one of the top-ranked PVPers on the server?

    LOL, the same could be said for Wizzeled on Sanc. but when all of your gear is at least +10 with a +12 weapon, its pretty hard to be fail, sage or demon doesnt even come into play
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Seeing a barb with TT90 sharded with....



    SHABBY CITRINE SHARDS!!!

    I hope it was a joke <.<
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  • Phoenix - Dreamweaver
    Phoenix - Dreamweaver Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary wrote: »
    LOL, the same could be said for Wizzeled on Sanc. but when all of your gear is at least +10 with a +12 weapon, its pretty hard to be fail, sage or demon doesnt even come into play

    Another common mistake I've noticed is backpedaling.
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  • Redmenace - Heavens Tear
    Redmenace - Heavens Tear Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    razorback08 wrote: »
    Learn about some classes before posting useless and false information

    Anonymous Troll is Anonymous, and irrelevant.

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  • Monkeytoes - Sanctuary
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Phoenix - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Another common mistake I've noticed is backpedaling.

    who's backpedaling? lol, i'm not the one that claimed sage archers were fail, i'm just pointing out the flaw in your "proof"
  • Redmenace - Heavens Tear
    Redmenace - Heavens Tear Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I thought it would of made more sense to lure back to where the party is set up and is alot safer aswell, if clerics run to shade and then BB it takes awhile to heal and if barb dies agro will go to cleric and cleric will die and then the rest will follow and u have no hope or reviving if it all goes wrong.

    Run to Shade, then the barb has time to fully grab aggro, so when the BB goes up the cleric doesnt get heal aggro..

    or...

    Run back to the door, where the BB is already up and the cleric gets heal aggro from all these mobs and dies. BM/Archer/Wiz/Veno all grab aggro with their AOE's, and all run like squealing animals in 4 different directions, leaving the barb to charm tank all the mobs himself.

    RedMenace

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  • SaneElf - Harshlands
    SaneElf - Harshlands Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    What cape should I use as an arcane class 80+? The only reason I would be inclined to use a Tauran Chieftan cape would be for the fact it's easier to find one with a decent number of slots in the AH. Most of the good normal 3* capes only have 1-2 slots.
  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary wrote: »
    LOL....Seriously? Ask some clerics who PVP/TW which does them more good, pdef or HP...HP sharded clerics are 1-2 shot targets for me, while a pdef one can be a huge pita.

    Hmmm i swear i said somewhere in this thread i don't PvP so original points still stands, im not going to claim about PvP or TW shards if i know nothing about them.
    Redmenace - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Run to Shade, then the barb has time to fully grab aggro, so when the BB goes up the cleric doesnt get heal aggro..

    or...

    Run back to the door, where the BB is already up and the cleric gets heal aggro from all these mobs and dies. BM/Archer/Wiz/Veno all grab aggro with their AOE's, and all run like squealing animals in 4 different directions, leaving the barb to charm tank all the mobs himself.

    RedMenace

    \can you guess I've been there?

    Cleric wont get agro if barb does a tight circle to pack them and then bm stuns, like exactly what happened last night and cleric didnt take a slap at all. Like i said the first would work well if people all listen and know each other otherwise there is too much of a likely hood someone will **** up and then cause a party wipe.
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  • Monkeytoes - Sanctuary
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Hmmm i swear i said somewhere in this thread i don't PvP so original points still stands, im not going to claim about PvP or TW shards if i know nothing about them.

    Well then, it isn't a mistake if they are doing what best suits their needs, now is it?
  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well then, it isn't a mistake if they are doing what best suits their needs, now is it?

    Why would and non pk/tw cleric need to fill up there **** with p def shards?
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  • Monkeytoes - Sanctuary
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Why would and non pk/tw cleric need to fill up there **** with p def shards?

    A) I never said anything of the sort, I said that robes using pdef shards wasn't a mistake
    B) I'll use my cleric as an example....95% of melee mobs are dead before they can touch me, magic mobs aren't an issue, what mobs are the biggest thorn in my side? archer mobs....guess which shards help me more there...thats right, pdef! that said, my cleric is sharded with a mix of citrines/garnets, with as many hp/vit adds as i can find....

    remember... it is much easier to make up the hp you lose by sharding pdef than it is to make up the pdef you lose sharding hp
  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Monkeytoes - Sanctuary wrote: »
    A) I never said anything of the sort, I said that robes using pdef shards wasn't a mistake
    B) I'll use my cleric as an example....95% of melee mobs are dead before they can touch me, magic mobs aren't an issue, what mobs are the biggest thorn in my side? archer mobs....guess which shards help me more there...thats right, pdef! that said, my cleric is sharded with a mix of citrines/garnets, with as many hp/vit adds as i can find....

    remember... it is much easier to make up the hp you lose by sharding pdef than it is to make up the pdef you lose sharding hp

    You didn't have to it is what you simply implied and brought in all other factors of which i said nothing about, if you were to use your brain before you try to just argue with me for the sake of it you would realised im a cleric and speaking as a cleric, i also have a veno buts that's not the point, so of course im going to post from my point of view not yours, also if you had taken the time to read my post beforehand you would know i know very little about PvP as i do not do it. So when i posted what i said i would assume that was very obvious to assume that it was PvE based as of course PvP/TW require something altogether different.

    I have full sharded HP shards, never used p def shards as i've never needed them i can generally keep out of range from archer and melee mobs sure IH helps out when i mess up and like you said mag mobs aren't a problem.
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  • Badazmofo - Dreamweaver
    Badazmofo - Dreamweaver Posts: 407 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Iseria - Harshlands wrote: »
    +1 lol

    what a DB that guy is

    lol ok first of all maybe i should have been clearer, when i talked to the guy he wasnt all polite and stuff he as actuly very rude perhaps i should have put that in there to clarify my actions but i didnt my bad

    second why call someone db after only reading a single post? if you played on dreamweaver and ever squaded with me or even just ran into me out killing mobs you would find im actuly a very nice person i hlp ppl all the time and im normaly quite polite but you only saw what i posted and i guess that would be a db move but you shouldnt call someone a db after only 1 post cuz it could be like it is a misunderstanding, if this guy would have been nice in the first place i would have been nice back but he wasnt so i was not either but as i said i didnt clerify that he had been rude when i talked so again my bad
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  • Oneshotu - Lost City
    Oneshotu - Lost City Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Evasion Gear.
    So the Dead guy says "LOL you fail, you didnt even one shot me"
    Nuf said.
  • Redmenace - Heavens Tear
    Redmenace - Heavens Tear Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Badazmofo - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    lol ok first of all maybe i should have been clearer, when i talked to the guy he wasnt all polite and stuff he as actuly very rude perhaps i should have put that in there to clarify my actions but i didnt my bad

    second why call someone db after only reading a single post? if you played on dreamweaver and ever squaded with me or even just ran into me out killing mobs you would find im actuly a very nice person i hlp ppl all the time and im normaly quite polite you, if this guy would have been nice in the first place i would have been nice back but he wasnt so i was not either but as i said i didnt clerify that he had been rude when i talked so again my bad

    lol ok why back off nao lol that n00b got what he deserved fail whatever why should you be polite to any idiot on teh server who cares im rlly cool and polite i just like being a cocky b*stard on forum lol whatever

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  • eternalnab
    eternalnab Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    somehow i think this topic was ment to me...cuz i said smt abt tweakz's arcane+misty rings :P

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