Spliting TT drops, and fairness
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Brael - Dreamweaver wrote: »The support cleric is what really gets me. I understand the rational behind a tank/cleric (even if I've already proven the intention isn't met with the rule, the way things are) but following the logic of costs, why is a support cleric so high? They're less damage than a veno/wizard/archer, hold back further because they want to be ready heal, and 90% of the time don't bother to debuff (atleast the one's I've seen). What warrants them above someone who does their job properly, contributes to the groups success, and actually increases the success rate of the squad?
Even if you go by the philosophy of rewarding based on how vital the job is to the squad... support cleric is below dd's, so why is their pick above them?
Oh, oh, let me answer that....
1. Some clerics won't go solo, if something goes wrong they dont want to lose EXP.
2. Some bosses actually require 2 clerics if the tank isn't supremely powerful.
3. Again, if one cleric dies you have the insurance support cleric there
4. Who flies all the way clear across the map to rez you so you won't lose your hard worked EXP? That's right, clerics.
5. Who flies all the way clear across the map again to kill that pesky boss that has been on your quest list for days? Correct, clerics.
So.... they deserve it. b:victoryLike they say in my country:
When you are too smart, smartness eats you up.0 -
I imagine celebrations will soon follow on HT...
RedMenace... He's a sad panda...
/oddly turned on by forum discussions b:shocked
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Have a Happy Day, AC
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Danikovich - Heavens Tear wrote: »Oh, oh, let me answer that....
1. Some clerics won't go solo, if something goes wrong they dont want to lose EXP.
2. Some bosses actually require 2 clerics if the tank isn't supremely powerful.
3. Again, if one cleric dies you have the insurance support cleric there
4. Who flies all the way clear across the map to rez you so you won't lose your hard worked EXP? That's right, clerics.
5. Who flies all the way clear across the map again to kill that pesky boss that has been on your quest list for days? Correct, clerics.
So.... they deserve it. b:victory
And who clears the path so there is no partywipe? Not the cleric...
1. I carry angels and rez scrolls. I do not need a cleric to rez me, the cleric should not need another cleric either.
2. So, if 1 out of 5 bosses requires 2 clerics, does that mean backup cleric only gets 1/5th of the drops?
3. See number 1
4. See number 1
5. Not the backup cleric...Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »And who clears the path so there is no partywipe? Not the cleric...
1. I carry angels and rez scrolls. I do not need a cleric to rez me, the cleric should not need another cleric either.
2. So, if 1 out of 5 bosses requires 2 clerics, does that mean backup cleric only gets 1/5th of the drops?
3. See number 1
4. See number 1
5. Not the backup cleric...
That's very good and I congratulate you for your independence. Too bad not everyone is like you though. Case closed afaik... b:byeLike they say in my country:
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Have a Happy Day, AC
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That's AH to you, talk about the pot calling the kettle black...
RedMenace
/thinks he's 1337
//has finally given up on slashies
///fighting hard to hold back his tears
AC = Anonymous Coward.
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Have a wonderful weekend!
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\\\still smiling tho. You?A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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to all DDs that got **** at TT run,
just keep doing TT runs, and sell the **** u got, and use the money to buy the mats u need. thats what i do =_=
so sad but nothing can u do...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Redmenace - Heavens Tear wrote: »AC = Anonymous Coward.
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Have a wonderful weekend!
RedMenace
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\\\still smiling tho. You?
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Duh' captain obvious
I really am having a very fun weekend, thank you
RedMenace
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AH = Anonymous Hero
Duh' captain obvious
I really am having a very fun weekend, thank you
RedMenace
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Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »He may be a red menace, but at least he knows what he's talking about and makes sense when he talks about it. Unlike you.b:bye
Come on Zoe, you old troll... I still remember when a good third of forum posters used to include a joke about you on their sig.
If you talk to me as an adult i will oblige, if you try to flame well...0 -
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Duh' captain obvious
I really am having a very fun weekend, thank you
RedMenace
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Don't ya just want to pinch his little cheeks?
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RedMenaceA human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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Danikovich - Heavens Tear wrote: »1. Some clerics won't go solo, if something goes wrong they dont want to lose EXP.
When I want to guarantee a res or not losing exp I carry GA's/scrolls. Otherwise I goto town. I do that quite often. It's just 1% exp, and soon even less.2. Some bosses actually require 2 clerics if the tank isn't supremely powerful.
Tanks can stop being undergeared. The number of bosses needing 2 clerics is extremely small. If the cleric is needed for one of those few bosses, how does that make them more eligible than the dd that's needed for the clears and well, every kill.3. Again, if one cleric dies you have the insurance support cleric there
By the same logic, if you had a DD in that slot, you could have killed faster. Dead mobs can't kill players. Unless they're zombie mobs.4. Who flies all the way clear across the map to rez you so you won't lose your hard worked EXP? That's right, clerics.
Cleric. You don't call two across the map to res you. Or if you're me, you just goto town.5. Who flies all the way clear across the map again to kill that pesky boss that has been on your quest list for days? Correct, clerics.
Cleric. Again, singular. Or as I've done before, I've called a wizard to heal, or venos (before I had my herc). Outside of fights where purify is a vital part of the killing strategy, a cleric is optional.0 -
Come on Zoe, you old troll... I still remember when a good third of forum posters used to include a joke about you on their sig.
If you talk to me as an adult i will oblige, if you try to flame well...
Those same people are gone one way or another. I think the majority of them got themselves banned. Although I had nothing to do with it they had it coming for being idiots. Don't you go and be the next now.Main characters
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Redmenace - Heavens Tear wrote: »
Don't ya just want to pinch his little cheeks?
Don't You Go Changing - You're a Gem.
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RedMenace
Have you actually so given up on mustering an attempt at wit that it's come down to pictures? Serious? Is facepalm coming next or is it lolcatz?
PS; Please don't give up on your slashdot thingies, it really is the part i've been having the most fun with.0 -
Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »Those same people are gone one way or another. I think the majority of them got themselves banned. Although I had nothing to do with it they had it coming for being idiots. Don't you go and be the next now.
LOL, don't worry i'll be gone too soon enough, and you and your boyfriend will go back to taking advantage of people who don't know better. Except, there's always gonna be someone who stands up for what's right... there's always gonna be someone who'll actually care about the truth.
Someone will always stand up to people like you. Always.
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Brael - Dreamweaver wrote: »When I want to guarantee a res or not losing exp I carry GA's/scrolls. Otherwise I goto town. I do that quite often. It's just 1% exp, and soon even less.
Tanks can stop being undergeared. The number of bosses needing 2 clerics is extremely small. If the cleric is needed for one of those few bosses, how does that make them more eligible than the dd that's needed for the clears and well, every kill.
By the same logic, if you had a DD in that slot, you could have killed faster. Dead mobs can't kill players. Unless they're zombie mobs.
Cleric. You don't call two across the map to res you. Or if you're me, you just goto town.
Cleric. Again, singular. Or as I've done before, I've called a wizard to heal, or venos (before I had my herc). Outside of fights where purify is a vital part of the killing strategy, a cleric is optional.
First of all... *facepalm*
Now let me ask you this, where did this 1% come from? When I die I lose 3%, not cool. Having responded that, I will tell you the response for number 2 is, it does because as everybody knows, DDs only make it faster, and we are thankful to that. But that's all. It's an extra, less time in this hell... nice. Now, obviously we do not call two clerics to the map to rez you, but again why should anyone try to fit in DDs above clerics since the latter one are far more helpful and quite often more needed. Last one, if you wanna call a cleric optional, that's your problem b:victory Just hope one doesnt refuse to do anything for you later on because you called them optional b:shocked
Personal note: Oh venos... if they didnt have a Herc they'd be less full of themselves.... maybe...Like they say in my country:
When you are too smart, smartness eats you up.0 -
u lose 3%? what ur cultivation b:shocked u never do ur cultivation?????
the higher ur cultivation the % lost smaller hun...
i lose hmm 1,5% or 1% i dont quite remember cuz i rarely die b:chuckleb:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I_missU - Dreamweaver wrote: »u lose 3%? what ur cultivation b:shocked u never do ur cultivation?????
the higher ur cultivation the % lost smaller hun...
i lose hmm 1,5% or 1% i dont quite remember cuz i rarely die b:chuckleb:cute
I can assure you I did all my cultivations o.OLike they say in my country:
When you are too smart, smartness eats you up.0 -
Danikovich - Heavens Tear wrote: »I can assure you I did all my cultivations o.O
Just saw this on a thread in the cleric forum....I personally lose 2% per death.KroBa - Lost City wrote: »Note, these are not the english names.
Attuned (19)
* Exp loss when dying - 4.5%
Lucid (29)
* Exp loss when dying - 4%
Enigmatic (39)
* Exp loss when dying - 3.5%
Forbidding (49)
* Exp loss when dying - 3%
Sinister (59)
* Exp loss when dying - 2.5%
Nirvana (69)
* Exp loss when dying - 2%
Mahayana (79)
* Exp loss when dying - 1%
Sublime or Diabolic (89)
* Exp loss when dying - 0.6%
Infernal or Enlightened (99)
* Exp loss when dying - 0.4%
Demon or Immortal (100)
* Exp loss when dying - 0.2%[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I_missU - Dreamweaver wrote: »u lose 3%? what ur cultivation b:shocked u never do ur cultivation?????
the higher ur cultivation the % lost smaller hun...
i lose hmm 1,5% or 1% i dont quite remember cuz i rarely die b:chuckleb:cute
Initial loss (lvl 10?+) - 5%
Culti19 complete - 4.5%
Culti29 complete - 4%
Culti39 complete - 3.5%
Culti49 complete - 3%
Culti59 complete - 2.5%
Culti69 complete - 2%
Culti79 complete - 1%
Culti89 complete - .6%
Culti99 complete - .4%0 -
Danikovich if u lose 3% of ur exp and ur culti, i guess, aware of vacuity u should call gm b:chuckle
or quickly WC or make thread,
"CAN A GM PM & HALP MEEH I LOST 3% END MA CULTY AWARE OF VACUITY" b:laugh j/k
Go do ur culti so u wont lose much exp b:kiss
and not out of topic,
i give up about tt split, unless the squad kind enough to let me pick what mats i need.. =_=[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Danikovich - Heavens Tear wrote: »First of all... *facepalm*
Now let me ask you this, where did this 1% come from? When I die I lose 3%, not cool. Having responded that, I will tell you the response for number 2 is, it does because as everybody knows, DDs only make it faster, and we are thankful to that. But that's all. It's an extra, less time in this hell... nice. Now, obviously we do not call two clerics to the map to rez you, but again why should anyone try to fit in DDs above clerics since the latter one are far more helpful and quite often more needed. Last one, if you wanna call a cleric optional, that's your problem b:victory Just hope one doesnt refuse to do anything for you later on because you called them optional b:shocked
Personal note: Oh venos... if they didnt have a Herc they'd be less full of themselves.... maybe...
Take this guy for instance, here's someone for whom the bottom line it's not in what he can acomplish but in what to do in case he fails. Very likely because he's had to deal with failing a lot. So he asks for a second cleric just in case mashing macros fails him, god forbid he may actually have to time using his skills. And what does his attitude breed? Contempt. He looks down on not only DDs but venos as well and it is very likely he's never stopped to think how much money in charms and repairs he's lost because everytime he was given a choice between a DD and a second cleric he chose the later. For him it's not about efficiency or even fun, but about playing it safe.
Yes, the tank and spank design of most bosses in this game does encourage this way of thinking, but it by no means justifies this behaviour. Let them level alone then, let the support classes that can by no means solo without difficulty go at it unaided and grind their teeth as they watch others do the simple things in less than half the time. Let's all become jerks and charge for every little service that our classes may provide to other players. Ever thought how much BMs could charge for their buff? How bout venos demand rights to the loot of every single mob they pull? Here's an idea, let's have squads of nothing but barbs and clerics doing 20x3, since it's only saving time they get from DDs i'm sure they won't mind the extra expenses of it taking 3 times as long...
THIS HAS TO STOP. No one deserves to do a TT run and come out with nothing but repair costs. Sure, this thread is very likely closing soon and you may very well think i've been nothing but obnoxious in it, but the point remains you can't allow your fellow player to be disrespected in such manner, an hour or two of playing for a good 100k worth or more of an mp charm (wizards) and 20-30k worth of repairs for not even a mirage?! And you have the bullies that have been happy to make threats in this thread that they won't tank for you up a million? Barbs can be replaced by higher level BMs and herc venos, and those with this bad attitude should be. I'm not saying all barbs are bad, i've had the honor of meeting some who were great gamers, but the rotten apples really are spoiling the bunch. And as for clerics, yes, i know some players have abused you with inconsiderate demands for buffs and resses but even if you choose to forget most of you picked your class to help others, you should closely consider what you are becoming.
This comunity faces many challenges but really has no chance if it won't stick together. If you plan on staying around for longer than a few months then certainly you must know what i tell you it's true. There's no future in here but what you make and i fear for the world we live in if this cutthroat attitude is any representation of who you really are. Everyone deserves respect, certainly in a hobby as much as in irl.
Please, just think about it.0 -
You could have drops apointed to certian players or reserved for player x.The coins however will be shared by all.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0
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Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »Those same people are gone one way or another. I think the majority of them got themselves banned. Although I had nothing to do with it they had it coming for being idiots. Don't you go and be the next now.
The majority got fed up of making fun of you,your reputation is well known,or left the mess this game has become.
Besides how many times have i called you out on your complete lack of pvp ability(not just me either)and yet you still go on and on and onnnnn about how great you are and how **** everyone else is even though you fight once every 4 weeks in a tw (and usually that tw is over in 15 mins heh)never go white named and probably never will,and duel people with inferior gear and level and then brag about how godly you are.
As for redmenace,i don't blame him for his ignorance and rudeness,hes part of belial afterall same faction as you,it's just a given that once you're in there you turn into a keyboard warrior or mouthy little know it all.
I be lurking b:shockedQuit 100%...and surprised my forum account wasn't banned...yet0 -
Danikovich - Heavens Tear wrote: »First of all... *facepalm*
Now let me ask you this, where did this 1% come from? When I die I lose 3%, not cool.
Let me ask you this, your level on your avatar says you're 86. This means your cultivation should be Aware of Vacuity. Does your cultivation say that? If it does and you're losing 3% you need to talk to a GM because your character is bugged. At the bottom of page 14 is the chart that shows exp loss (but with another versions names). From 79 to 89 you should be losing 1% per death.Having responded that, I will tell you the response for number 2 is, it does because as everybody knows, DDs only make it faster, and we are thankful to that. But that's all. It's an extra, less time in this hell... nice.
Clerics only make it cheaper, and we are thankful to that. But that's all. It's an extra, a higher profit margin... nice.
Don't believe they're optional? I've duoed 2-2 squad with a Barbarian. I believe he was 77 at the time, while I was 84 (I was the minimum level to open it). I just finished duoing most of a frost run. The group wanted to bail before the second boss, we had them stay through the 4th (and skipped every mob we could on the way, because they wanted to log... this was our 4th run of the night). And then myself and that Barbarian (now 83) cleared the remaining 6 bosses and pretty much all of the base pop (skipped a couple early guys that don't give good exp). Again, no cleric required. Infact, we could have done the other 4 fights without a cleric too yet ironically enough, we wouldn't have been able to duo Dreadindra... odd thing about that fight, it requires DD's.Now, obviously we do not call two clerics to the map to rez you, but again why should anyone try to fit in DDs above clerics since the latter one are far more helpful and quite often more needed.
More helpful? Really? Why do squads never have a problem filling in DD spots then? Even if you quadrupled the number of times a squad is lacking a DD but has it's clerics, I'm pretty sure you would run into needing clerics more often.Last one, if you wanna call a cleric optional, that's your problem b:victory Just hope one doesnt refuse to do anything for you later on because you called them optional b:shocked
Tell me where I need them. I don't need resses. Outside of possibly TT 3-1 (I just hit 88 and haven't done it yet to see first hand) I don't need a cleric for a single mob in TT aside from Soul Banisher in 1-3, and that's merely to keep me alive... I've seen Barbarians solo him. Again, not needed. They help but so do DD's, so just helping doesn't warrant a higher slot, especially a second cleric.Personal note: Oh venos... if they didnt have a Herc they'd be less full of themselves.... maybe...
If I didn't have a herc, the Barbarian in my squads would have a higher repair bill. My friends and I would have less money in our pockets because I can't hit quick farm targets, and my ability to kill anything other than bosses would be minimally impacted at the most. You're right though that I'm quite full of myself. The reason is because I pull things off at the level it's available, with only a couple others in the squad, lower level than what's needed, and it's quite common to see others demand 2 clerics and higher levels for the content. Wurlord/Frost are just two examples. Fights like that are actually a challenge, and quite fun. Plus they require people that aren't **** around to pull off.
Give me a bit longer to hit 90 (so I can open it), and figure my plan out and I bet you I can duo 2-3 Wurlord as well, and actually... it would most likely be profitable too (unlike that frost run which was pure fun).0 -
*sigh* It's the same thing over and over again. Everyone believes certain classes are the Alpha and Omega of [Insert Task Here]. That's what I hate about this game. You talk about how you NEED clerics, yet ignore the fact that as long as the boss doesn't have a debuffing effect, a wizard also has a healing spell. You talk about how Barbs tank, and therefore deserve a high place in the list, yet trash talk those who remind you that a Veno can spare the barb their repair cost. You flame the uselessness of DDs, you insult players who understand more than just the "ME ME ME ME" outlook of this game.
If there's one thing you should realize, it's that there is NO USELESS CLASS. The way this game is designed, almost every job has another option for being done. It's what makes me facepalm when I see people crying for a Barbarian, or Veno with Herc for FB59. Those mobs cast. A Wizard can tank them easily. A Cleric can SOLO two of them.
In the realm of TT, more DD = shorter runs = More profit/time. Not to mention, the DDs are free to keep an eye on the party, which means that a wandering add heading towards a cleric is going to be blocked if the DD knows what they're doing. If it's a BM, they stun the mob, and hold it down until it dies, or the Barb grabs it. A wizard can slow it, knock it back, and put it to sleep. An Archer can knock it back, stun it, and maybe even kill it with a few lucky crits. A veno can block with her pet, or in case of a Fox Veno, stop it where it stands. All so the Cleric can focus on the job of keeping the barb alive so he can tank.
As for bosses? Who doesn't love an Archer using ST on it to decrease the HP by a ton, or a Veno for Amp, or a wizard for the sheer pain they unleash on it. A BM could combine Shadowless Kick with a Barb's Alacrity of the Beast to stop channeling. Last I checked, a boss casting hurts a barb more than Melee Damage. How about at a base level? Look at buffs. The Barb gets more Defense from the BM, a damaging Bramble from the Veno, more Evasion from the Archer, and increased Damage from the Wizard. The cleric has a better chance of surviving AoEs if the BM gives them more defense as well.
There is more than just a tiny piece of a puzzle here. Look at the grand picture. A varied party is a wonderful thing. Instead of filling slots with the same few classes, get everyone. You'll need different mats, and all contribute something different. And that is what this game is about. Teamwork.0 -
Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »*sigh* It's the same thing over and over again. Everyone believes certain classes are the Alpha and Omega of [Insert Task Here]. That's what I hate about this game. You talk about how you NEED clerics, yet ignore the fact that as long as the boss doesn't have a debuffing effect, a wizard also has a healing spell. You talk about how Barbs tank, and therefore deserve a high place in the list, yet trash talk those who remind you that a Veno can spare the barb their repair cost. You flame the uselessness of DDs, you insult players who understand more than just the "ME ME ME ME" outlook of this game.
If there's one thing you should realize, it's that there is NO USELESS CLASS. The way this game is designed, almost every job has another option for being done. It's what makes me facepalm when I see people crying for a Barbarian, or Veno with Herc for FB59. Those mobs cast. A Wizard can tank them easily. A Cleric can SOLO two of them.
In the realm of TT, more DD = shorter runs = More profit/time. Not to mention, the DDs are free to keep an eye on the party, which means that a wandering add heading towards a cleric is going to be blocked if the DD knows what they're doing. If it's a BM, they stun the mob, and hold it down until it dies, or the Barb grabs it. A wizard can slow it, knock it back, and put it to sleep. An Archer can knock it back, stun it, and maybe even kill it with a few lucky crits. A veno can block with her pet, or in case of a Fox Veno, stop it where it stands. All so the Cleric can focus on the job of keeping the barb alive so he can tank.
As for bosses? Who doesn't love an Archer using ST on it to decrease the HP by a ton, or a Veno for Amp, or a wizard for the sheer pain they unleash on it. A BM could combine Shadowless Kick with a Barb's Alacrity of the Beast to stop channeling. Last I checked, a boss casting hurts a barb more than Melee Damage. How about at a base level? Look at buffs. The Barb gets more Defense from the BM, a damaging Bramble from the Veno, more Evasion from the Archer, and increased Damage from the Wizard. The cleric has a better chance of surviving AoEs if the BM gives them more defense as well.
There is more than just a tiny piece of a puzzle here. Look at the grand picture. A varied party is a wonderful thing. Instead of filling slots with the same few classes, get everyone. You'll need different mats, and all contribute something different. And that is what this game is about. Teamwork.
Exactly. My words. Some people think, they are more than others. But they are wrong. And life will teach them sooner or later.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I know mat distribution can be tough at times. I know when I look at my gear I can build it two ways. One way is to do the TT where my mat drops and do it till I get that mat. The second way is to do a lower TT where the mat values arent so widely uneven and essentially gain mats for resale to gain enough coin to buy the ones that are harder to get.
Its like doing to a 2-2 in 50mins and gaining mats in value of 2m. Then doing a 3-1 that takes 2 hours and get mats value at 1m. I would rather do two runs of 2-2 and make 4m and buy 2 beast armors, then do one 3-1 and barely get enough coin to buy a armor.
My squad make-up usually consists of 1 barb, 1 cleric, 3 venos and a archer or a wizard. Usually the same people I run with and we finish 2-2 freakishly fast, best time we ever got was a few seconds over 30mins. We also do serpentine method; barb,cleric,venos by lvl, then reverse. Usually do 3 runs in 2 hours and everyone comes out with loads of mats, I love it. ^_^
I think people would be more happy with mat distribution if people did regular squads in multiples, yes it makes cliques, but it seems to make happier parties.
Quoted from Calamity's personal forums discussing this same subject:
"Another suggestion I made was this: If you don't want me to pick "x" mat, then let me get mats that will equal what I would have picked anyway. You may be there for a certain item and another for a certain amount of coin because they want something molded and don't do cube or need a gold mat. It's a bit unfair to get mad at someone because they pick something to sell, your needs are not greater than theirs or less." ~Spinebuster lvl 82 barb51 lvls in Calamity, **** whomever actually pressed the kick button on me, while I was at work no less, you coward.0 -
Mandey - Dreamweaver wrote: »I know mat distribution can be tough at times. I know when I look at my gear I can build it two ways. One way is to do the TT where my mat drops and do it till I get that mat. The second way is to do a lower TT where the mat values arent so widely uneven and essentially gain mats for resale to gain enough coin to buy the ones that are harder to get.
Its like doing to a 2-2 in 50mins and gaining mats in value of 2m. Then doing a 3-1 that takes 2 hours and get mats value at 1m. I would rather do two runs of 2-2 and make 4m and buy 2 beast armors, then do one 3-1 and barely get enough coin to buy a armor.
My squad make-up usually consists of 1 barb, 1 cleric, 3 venos and a archer or a wizard. Usually the same people I run with and we finish 2-2 freakishly fast, best time we ever got was a few seconds over 30mins. We also do serpentine method; barb,cleric,venos by lvl, then reverse. Usually do 3 runs in 2 hours and everyone comes out with loads of mats, I love it. ^_^
I think people would be more happy with mat distribution if people did regular squads in multiples, yes it makes cliques, but it seems to make happier parties.
Quoted from Calamity's personal forums discussing this same subject:
"Another suggestion I made was this: If you don't want me to pick "x" mat, then let me get mats that will equal what I would have picked anyway. You may be there for a certain item and another for a certain amount of coin because they want something molded and don't do cube or need a gold mat. It's a bit unfair to get mad at someone because they pick something to sell, your needs are not greater than theirs or less." ~Spinebuster lvl 82 barb
I don't believe you, that you did TT 2-2 for 30min. We did all bosses and it took more than 2 1/2h.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »I don't believe you, that you did TT 2-2 for 30min. We did all bosses and it took more than 2 1/2h.
We skip wurlord, he is a waste of time. Our demon barb does full dmg in tiger form, and 3 venos with 3 pets, its amp 100% of the time, and the pets do full dmg to bosses. And Archers Sage Sharptooth auto reduces bosses hp by 20% every time. Its very possible.51 lvls in Calamity, **** whomever actually pressed the kick button on me, while I was at work no less, you coward.0
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