Spliting TT drops, and fairness

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Using an example of well known friends and a static group is kinda pointless as you have to think of the majority players who do with random pple in faction or WC who often times do not have a static and reactions and understandings of those players are vastly diff.

That does not make my example false or not applicable. It just shows that it may take coordination, but it can be done.

Do you think that the first Lunar run was done by a random squad? What about the first time some did all bosses in 2-3? Was that done by a random squad? or Rebirth, the first squad to have complete it, was that a random squad?
Can you say, since those first runs were not done by a random squad, they do not show that poeple can do those runs?

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That does not make my example false or not applicable. It just shows that it may take coordination, but it can be done.

It does not make it false but it does not make it any more viable as saying RB delta can be done with 1 cleric and 5 wizards at lvl below 95. It CAN be done with alot of planning and hell knows how much gearing, but it is not recommended enough to use as a example for majority of players on a normal basis is what im saying.

Do you think that the first Lunar run was done by a random squad? What about the first time some did all bosses in 2-3? Was that done by a random squad? or Rebirth, the first squad to have complete it, was that a random squad?
Can you say, since those first runs were not done by a random squad, they do not show that poeple can do those runs?

what does first runs and uncharmed have to do with anything

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

It does not make it false but it does not make it any more viable as saying RB delta can be done with 1 cleric and 5 wizards at lvl below 95. It CAN be done with alot of planning and hell knows how much gearing, but it is not recommended enough to use as a example for majority of players on a normal basis is what im saying.


what does first runs and uncharmed have to do with anything

At first paragraph. We can agree at that.

At second paragraph. You said:
"Using an example of well known friends and a static group is kinda pointless as [...] "

You were dismissing my example since I used a static group of friends.
First runs are done with static groups. That shows the rest of of the people that they can be done. My example used a static group that does stuff uncharmed. That can show to the rest of the people that it can be done.
That is how they are related. Both show it can be done, and just because it was done by a well organized team does not mean that other people cannot do them as well, if they put a little effort into it. (or alot of effort)

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

At first paragraph. We can agree at that.

At second paragraph. You said:
"Using an example of well known friends and a static group is kinda pointless as [...] "

You were dismissing my example since I used a static group of friends.
First runs are done with static groups. That shows the rest of of the people that they can be done. My example used a static group that does stuff uncharmed. That can show to the rest of the people that it can be done.
That is how they are related. Both show it can be done, and just because it was done by a well organized team does not mean that other people cannot do them as well, if they put a little effort into it. (or alot of effort)

My arguement is that 8 out of 10 pple usually arent lucky enough to get a static group that are understanding and willing enough to cope with risks and possible losses due to charmlessness.

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

My arguement is that 8 out of 10 pple usually arent lucky enough to get a static group that are understanding and willing enough to cope with risks and possible losses due to charmlessness.

No argument from me on that. I do thank the PW gods all the time for being lucky enough to have a good group of friends.