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Brael - Dreamweaver wrote: »Evga, the company (I strongly doubt it's the customer service department... which gm's are, that adds items to the cash shop) adds the items to the shop. Players end up wanting or not wanting those items which influences demand. PWE basically supplies the players with the tools to determine gold demand. Players are entirely responsible for the supply.
like i said is it possible for any tw players to not wanting all those stuff? are you nuts? regardless of how much skill a player has. facing a +8 warsoul/frost/lunar weapon with one of those +attack lvl gem in there will pretty much mess up any player without the equivalent defense.
moreover the gm are so nice as too put usable item and not just fashion item into this event. There is a huge difference, fashion well it won't ruin the game for non cash user, but usable item pretty much ensure, if you have money you win.
and i actually thought of putting 400 into the game before the end of the event. but i realize, this isn't a one time thing... it will happen again and again and again... and if at anytime i don't have gold stock up or cash at hand i'm pretty much going to be lagging behind in terms of tw capability.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I'm not silencing you. Made this thread didn't I? I'm just shutting down the spam.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Wow by the time i typed in my really random,long user and pass this thread increased by 4 pages xD[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind...0 -
ppl just need to complain about everything though u knwo that andracil[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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you put it in a harsh way but , sadly enough your totally right
altho the unexperienced in marketing i doubt that
they prolly have a whole team all brainstorming on how they can f*ck us even more and steal our money , yup they're not dumb they have devoted teams to manipulate us and make us pay money b:surrender
so PWI devs listen to this smart guy and do something about your greed b:crythanks to forsaken for this awesome sig b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
stop doing the antiQQ knight danCrazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »Omg Ppl U R Posting In A Thread Tell Ur Opinions Here For Christ Sake!!!!
talking about the gold prices I think the whole thing started to stinks when Xarfox said they were draining out coins from the economy while hiding the amount of GAs sold[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
PWi, Giving a new meaning to F2P: Fee to Play.0
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TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »stop doing the antiQQ knight dan
talking about the gold prices I think the whole thing started to stinks when Xarfox said they were draining out coins from the economy while hiding the amount of GAs sold
omg they can post what they want but they r complaining they have no where to psot while they r posting b:angry[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
eh I know :SCrazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »omg they can post what they want but they r complaining they have no where to psot while they r posting b:angry
lu-lu-ludicrous kill kill kill...Faildom - Harshlands wrote: »Warsoul weapon in cash shop = HUGE FAILURE
spend 1000 dollar and u can own everyone.
@!0N here we comeb:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
*this is my 5th server counting CB.
* i enjoy this game enormously.
*i have many alts at or above lv 45.
*sometimes i do make small zen purchases (total $40 USD so far).
*i have caused much more gold to be bought through game coins.
*in the month that i have been back, i have only bought 2 gold with coins, as it had nearly doubled in the 2 months that i was gone.
*never yet, even above lv 75, have i needed to buy charms, mounts, TT mats, event packages, etc.
*if players want the numbers to become more balanced, simply raise your prices to compensate for the rise of gold. we'll just have to get used to dealing with higher #'s *gets calculator*
* i realize that mobs wont be dropping any more than normal & that people will still sell at lower prices for a quick sale, but that's how it was anyways huh?
*bottom line, if gold is too expensive for you, don't buy it - it will drop.
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I just know their response is going to be something along the lines of
"We're working on a solution to make everyone happy. We appreciate all the feedback. We here at PWE, aim to BLAHBLAHBLAH.
In the meanwhile, please be patient
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this game is DEFINITELY
PAY TO PLAY
just think of those noobs who wanna get hammers (dumb)The Swarm is imminent...0 -
And another thing : Rest assured that when the GM's log on today, I'll refer them to this thread. Knowing them, they WILL read it.
Knowing them, they WILL make some lame post like "sorry you're upset guys, we'll look into it!" and that'll be the end of it.
The major flaw in this game (even worse than the need for IRL money) has always been the distance between the customers and the developers. b:sleep0 -
See, what's happening is is that they ARE trying to fix the economy.. They were putting items out so that it would decrease the demand for them, hoping that it would balance out the other items... But what they have not realized is that by having these items go up for RL money is just ADDING currency to the economy in there.. I mean, with 1 gold it's now 300k+, and there is not very many items out there that would take that amount back out of the game. It's a balance and they haven't found the fine tune yet with it.
Start to pull currency out of the game PWI. Adding more items to just add money to the game is not going to work. You need to implement a plan to start reducing the avg amounts of money that people are getting and holding onto. Sell pots/1 time use items/etc for in game currency and DO NOT have it in the CS, or vice versa. Keep the demand of items to a certain medium.
Meh. It's too early to talk economics. I hope someone reads and understands what I'm saying. We have two ears and one tongue so that we would listen more and talk less. - Diogenes
It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them. - Pierre Beaumarchais
You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into. - Unknown0 -
Karst - Dreamweaver wrote: »I just know their response is going to be something along the lines of
"We're working on a solution to make everyone happy. We appreciate all the feedback. We here at PWE, aim to BLAHBLAHBLAH.
In the meanwhile, please be patient"
I wouldnt mind seeing a rollback and refund everyones money because even i have to say this is kinda crappy b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I wonder what's for sale next week.0
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They could just close the cash shop for a week and leave the gold trade open o.o I mean the prices might go down a few k[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind...0 -
lets all quit this game until the GMs get some brains....
its getting worse every weekb:shocked
and yeh F2P my ****!0 -
u don't understand, golds are NEEDED especially for TW GUILDS who have to use a MASSIVE amount of them and they can't just stop buying and lose to guilds that did buy at the insane prices*this is my 5th server counting CB.
* i enjoy this game enormously.
*i have many alts at or above lv 45.
*sometimes i do make small zen purchases (total $40 USD so far).
*i have caused much more gold to be bought through game coins.
*in the month that i have been back, i have only bought 2 gold with coins, as it had nearly doubled in the 2 months that i was gone.
*never yet, even above lv 75, have i needed to buy charms, mounts, TT mats, event packages, etc.
*if players want the numbers to become more balanced, simply raise your prices to compensate for the rise of gold. we'll just have to get used to dealing with higher #'s *gets calculator*
* i realize that mobs wont be dropping any more than normal & that people will still sell at lower prices for a quick sale, but that's how it was anyways huh?
*bottom line, if gold is too expensive for you, don't buy it - it will drop.
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and since tw guilds can buy them at those prices most gold sellers just keep their crazy prices and keep increase when they feel it's justified[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
i haven't even logged on,so your telling me weapons are now in the cash shop b:sad? Whats in their?b:shedtearb:infuriatedb:irritated
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Nexdonum - Lost City wrote: »See, what's happening is is that they ARE trying to fix the economy.. They were putting items out so that it would decrease the demand for them, hoping that it would balance out the other items... But what they have not realized is that by having these items go up for RL money is just ADDING currency to the economy in there.. I mean, with 1 gold it's now 300k+, and there is not very many items out there that would take that amount back out of the game. It's a balance and they haven't found the fine tune yet with it.
Start to pull currency out of the game PWI. Adding more items to just add money to the game is not going to work. You need to implement a plan to start reducing the avg amounts of money that people are getting and holding onto. Sell pots/1 time use items/etc for in game currency and DO NOT have it in the CS, or vice versa. Keep the demand of items to a certain medium.
Meh. It's too early to talk economics. I hope someone reads and understands what I'm saying.
Fixing the games doesn't mean adding coin boxes! Now gold will never be under 200k[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I'm not silencing you. Made this thread didn't I? I'm just shutting down the spam.
there was only a handful of threads that was being actively posted on the others were dying an falling to the back pages wat was so wrong with leaving the active ones open an allowing people to voice their opinions on that thread of discussion..each discussion(thread) had different but similar complaints. those are now all on page 2 an 3 so no one will see them unless they go digging for them.. i understand the need to stop spam on the forums but a post with over 50 replies mostly from different people can u really an honestly consider that spam?0 -
No one would buy the gold because the CS is closed.Peacefulelf - Dreamweaver wrote: »They could just close the cash shop for a week and leave the gold trade open o.o I mean the prices might go down a few k
Way ahead of you. b:sleepFaildom - Harshlands wrote: »lets all quit this game until the GMs get some brains....
its getting worse every weekb:shocked[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
oh look, i'm inactive again.
b> leviciti b:cry0 -
Evga - Sanctuary wrote: »*bottom line, if gold is too expensive for you, don't buy it - it will drop.
b:sad Why i still cant persuade myself to trust u...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
WHERE CAN I CHANGE ORDERS OF PROSPERITY FOR MONEY!b:angryb:angry
THIS UPDATE IS FOR ANYTHING OT ONLY FOR MAKE HUNGRY PEOPLE?0 -
FooFooKity - Heavens Tear wrote: »there was only a handful of threads that was being actively posted on the others were dying an falling to the back pages wat was so wrong with leaving the active ones open an allowing people to voice their opinions on that thread of discussion..each discussion(thread) had different but similar complaints. those are now all on page 2 an 3 so no one will see them unless they go digging for them.. i understand the need to stop spam on the forums but a post with over 50 replies mostly from different people can u really an honestly consider that spam?
Because makes more sense to put it all in one place to make it easier to read[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
FooFooKity - Heavens Tear wrote: »there was only a handful of threads that was being actively posted on the others were dying an falling to the back pages wat was so wrong with leaving the active ones open an allowing people to voice their opinions on that thread of discussion..each discussion(thread) had different but similar complaints. those are now all on page 2 an 3 so no one will see them unless they go digging for them.. i understand the need to stop spam on the forums but a post with over 50 replies mostly from different people can u really an honestly consider that spam?
Spoons tends to go over every new post when he logs on. He may not open every thread, but he definitely sees them, and anything he should read, he will read.
And trust me, everything that was said in those threads will be said here before long.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »I wouldnt mind seeing a rollback and refund everyones money because even i have to say this is kinda crappy b:surrender
or even something of the like. Something to fix the balance and then just put a max amount you are aloud to charge for gold"shrugs" best i can think of.0 -
careful using logic in this thread andra might confuse the flames
Well idk we shall see[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
they should would help alotPeacefulelf - Dreamweaver wrote: »They could just close the cash shop for a week and leave the gold trade open o.o I mean the prices might go down a few kFaildom - Harshlands wrote: »lets all quit this game until the GMs get some brains....
its getting worse every weekb:shocked
and yeh F2P my ****!Korren - Lost City wrote: »b:sad Why i still cant persuade myself to trust u...
there there b:sad feel srry for you and i'm gonan get mad when i logg in._.b:shedtearb:infuriatedb:irritated
b:sleep
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Baby theres no other super star you know that i'll be..Listening to lady gaga b:laugh0
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