Why are Venos without Hercs considered useless?

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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    this thread is a seed of Isala, it can only be killed if you can take on her eva-tank veno b:chuckle
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    why cant this thread just die?

    My thoughts exactly when I saw this in my 'new posts'....b:sad
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  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    -stabs poster who revived this thread-

    b:angry

    -scampers off to a corner to wait for more posters to continuously revive this thread-

    b:avoid
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  • Silver - Dreamweaver
    Silver - Dreamweaver Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    God....Who Necroed this thread....*pulls out some arrows* Seriously....
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  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    sadly, it wasnt necroed... it just gets to the brink and is then revived
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  • XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary
    XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary Posts: 683 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    well if you guys keep posting here.. i'll never ever die!


    wait.. dam. I did.. well nvm.. you heard me.
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  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    facepalm.jpg
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    I got an idea, if we all talk about _ _ _ _ in here, the thread will be locked! b:victory Like my awesomeness of an idea?
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  • XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary
    XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary Posts: 683 Arc User
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    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I got an idea, if we all talk about _ _ _ _ in here, the thread will be locked! b:victory Like my awesomeness of an idea?

    are we to fill in the blank?

    does that word start with a P and end in a N?
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary wrote: »
    are we to fill in the blank?

    does that word start with a P and end in a N?

    that works too. b:victory
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  • cyborgtemplar
    cyborgtemplar Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    you cant do bosses like soul banisher like that, he'll eat you alive :O. yall neeeeeed BB + charm to live his ****.

    well that's just dumb, no charm is needed for soul. just somebody with some basic intelligence. i did fine in a party vs 1-2 soul at lvl 61 and had 0 problem with it at all and i've got no charm mp or hp (cleric btw). it just takes some basic survival tactics like 1 pot here or there, a dmg reduction charms when he gets low (cheap to buy or make). it's really not as hard as you people make it seem. (it was 1-2 full squad and high)If a squishy type char can pull it off so easily so early withought hp/mp charm then it sure as hell don't need a charm for it. try it and find out if you fail to badly then learn to play and not rely on good gear.
  • Alexeno - Sanctuary
    Alexeno - Sanctuary Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    cyborgtemplar wrote: »
    well that's just dumb, no charm is needed for soul. just somebody with some basic intelligence. i did fine in a party vs 1-2 soul at lvl 61 and had 0 problem with it at all and i've got no charm mp or hp (cleric btw). it just takes some basic survival tactics like 1 pot here or there, a dmg reduction charms when he gets low (cheap to buy or make). it's really not as hard as you people make it seem. (it was 1-2 full squad and high)If a squishy type char can pull it off so easily so early withought hp/mp charm then it sure as hell don't need a charm for it. try it and find out if you fail to badly then learn to play and not rely on good gear.

    gtfo b:angry you're helping keep this dead thread from dying
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    cyborgtemplar wrote: »
    well that's just dumb, no charm is needed for soul. just somebody with some basic intelligence. i did fine in a party vs 1-2 soul at lvl 61 and had 0 problem with it at all and i've got no charm mp or hp (cleric btw). it just takes some basic survival tactics like 1 pot here or there, a dmg reduction charms when he gets low (cheap to buy or make). it's really not as hard as you people make it seem. (it was 1-2 full squad and high)If a squishy type char can pull it off so easily so early withought hp/mp charm then it sure as hell don't need a charm for it. try it and find out if you fail to badly then learn to play and not rely on good gear.

    what the heck? what sort of soul was this? is this the same soul that would 1shot a BB cleric if he/she had less than 3k hp buffed? cuz i been in squads where the BB cleric just goes splat without warning...

    edit: ohhh damage redux charms...but i'd say souls' requirement is more hp of party involved rather than charm or no
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  • Cernunnosx - Heavens Tear
    Cernunnosx - Heavens Tear Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    If the Squad has a barb or bm to tank, cleric to heal , and aslong as the Veno knows how to lure it doesnt matter what pet she/he has IMO.

    I would rather Squad with a good veno without a Herc than a bad one with.
  • WraitHunter - Dreamweaver
    WraitHunter - Dreamweaver Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    I as a barb always want a veno in squad.Good DD,bramble,curses shall I say more?

    As for pets I'm pretty sure a cub with all DT skills+bless can be as good as a herc.
  • fyry
    fyry Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Hercs can be helpful but I prefer to use my turocs if I don't have to be the one tanking the boss. If I'm tanking then I pull out my herc. But they are just too common. Everyone has them how many people do you see with unusual pets. Plus it was a pain to collect to sof needed and then getting it caught up in lvl so that it is of some use is a major pain in the butt.
  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Well I have a herc and while it is good for making the money back you spent on it.... it cannot hold aggro worth anything when I mostly squad with archers and wizards... so it's aggro pinball. Heck a few attacks from me and I steal aggro off it.

    In FF I just nuke monsters and hit bramble hood... far more useful than using the herc to tank them lol
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    fyry wrote: »
    Hercs can be helpful but I prefer to use my turocs if I don't have to be the one tanking the boss. If I'm tanking then I pull out my herc. But they are just too common. Everyone has them how many people do you see with unusual pets. Plus it was a pain to collect to sof needed and then getting it caught up in lvl so that it is of some use is a major pain in the butt.
    Please dont bump old arguments, especially with something looking like it'd insight more argument. This thread is way long past its due.
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  • Kittennice - Heavens Tear
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Seriously, this thread is like Power Rangers.
    They just keep going
    The VenoX: Heavy Pure Melee (Axe User with a hint of magic) Venomancer and Proud
    Having fun since lv1
    5 more levels baby!
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  • Deathsscion - Sanctuary
    Deathsscion - Sanctuary Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Mod, GM, someone. Get in here and lock this thing so we can move on and it can never come back. It should have been done around page 50 but better late then never. Seriously. Now.
  • Kagusa - Sanctuary
    Kagusa - Sanctuary Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »
    dont make things up they dont add to your argument. you -need- a herc to kill those mobs during bean collecting, ive seen them kill wizards in LA who have 2x the pdef of my old golem.

    it saves time and money in TT by minimizing repair costs, and makes mob luring and killing faster whether its tanking, or pulling a mob for the barb while holding its own.

    5$ says i can outplay any veno without a herc, and for the most part i have yet to be proven wrong :P

    FYI: you dont need MONEY to buy one, i got my legendary pets for ~40m and ive been playing maybe 3 1/2 months max

    but unlike the wizard the golem keeps getting healed by someone
  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Kittennice - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Seriously, this thread is like Power Rangers.
    They just keep going

    Power Rangers? Don't you mean the Energizer Bunny? b:surrender
    >.<
  • SunriseWind - Heavens Tear
    SunriseWind - Heavens Tear Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    *Sings....
    "This is the Thread that Never Ends
    It just goes on and on, my friends.
    Some people started it, not knowing what it was
    And it continues just because it is...
    This is the Thread that Never Ends
    It just goes on and on, my friends.
    Some people started it, not knowing what it was
    And it continues just because it is...
    This is the Thread that Never Ends
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    Some people started it, not knowing what it was
    And it continues just because it is...
    This is the Thread that Never Ends
    It just goes on and on, my friends.
    Some people started it, not knowing what it was
    And it continues just because it is...

    The Thread that never ends,
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  • Conavar - Heavens Tear
    Conavar - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Power Rangers? Don't you mean the Energizer Bunny? b:surrender

    No because a bunny is to much like a Veno look or pet... then the debate will continue.... " Why are Playboy Veno's without Huggy Hare's considered useless " oooh the drama and QQ that will bring
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    /Casts deadly shot on this thread
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Conavar - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No because a bunny is to much like a Veno look or pet... then the debate will continue.... " Why are Playboy Veno's without Huggy Hare's considered useless " oooh the drama and QQ that will bring

    b:sad Please dont make fun of the playboy bunneh venos or our pet bunnehs b:cry
    >.<
  • Kittennice - Heavens Tear
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Power Rangers? Don't you mean the Energizer Bunny? b:surrender

    Those batteries die and you know it. XD

    Quick everyone let's go off-topic.

    What did you all have for dinner?
    The VenoX: Heavy Pure Melee (Axe User with a hint of magic) Venomancer and Proud
    Having fun since lv1
    5 more levels baby!
    ^_____^
    {=^.^=} < I'll never give up. Never give in. )

    I'm for The Cursed!
    pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=656132
  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Kittennice - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Those batteries die and you know it. XD

    b:cryb:cryb:cry YES THEY DID!!!!!
    >.<
  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Kittennice - Heavens Tear wrote: »

    What did you all have for dinner?

    PIZZA! b:pleased
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  • Conavar - Heavens Tear
    Conavar - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited October 2009
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    Kittennice - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Quick everyone let's go off-topic.

    If we go off topic we might be banned but the thread will live on, like some weird forum undead... and at 666 pages burst out and dominate the World

    and Egg and chips (fries) Im English sue me :)
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