Nerf The Veno

Mosz - Heavens Tear

Kaelis - Heavens Tear wrote: »

mosz can't talk though seriously if archers couldn't exploit and zhen he prolly would be lvl 70 max you don't see us crying about it so why cry cos bleed is bugged as well?

personal attacks with absolutely NO KNOWLEDGE
ive Zhenned about ONE LEVEL, yah i took advantage of +50% xp to do some zhen with friends while i was busy doign other stuff, no i didnt zhen 10 levels that pretty dang expensive as (for the 20th time) i haven't spent any real moeny on this game
i have a weapon worth 15 mil, ew more upgrades and itll be worth 20+(other equips worth millions too AND I STILL CANT SOLO TT (NO ONE CAN [ minus possibly cleric from what i hear and even then not as effectively as veno]) SO STFU WITH YOUR USELESS POST

if archers couldn't exploit GM SAID ITS NTO AN EXPLOIT SO STOP WHINING LIKE A LITTLE NOOB VENO YOU ARE. GET SOME FRIENDS PROVE YOU CAN LURE IF YOU REALLY WANT TO ZHEN SO BAD, for most the DD class its not even that great exp

understanding the OP well half hes **** was wrong which if you had read my other replys i stated, hence the discussion progressed into viable fixes so people would stfu about overpowering as shield can see this and you cannot give anything useful to the argument

Cat - Heavens Tear

I believe her point was that Archers use a bug to exploit to Zhen, yet you dont see venos whining about that. Yet people are whinning about having the pet skill bleed fixed cause its supposedly bugged..


I still dont see how you can insist other classes cant solo TT as well. A BM posted in here that he could solo it at lvl 65.. Sticky has posted he can solo TT 1-1, 2-1, 1-2 and even 2-2 on SQUAD MODE!!! ANd hes a barb.. So how can you still sit there and say other classes cant solo TT.. What you mean is you cant do it for w.e reason so you want to whine still, I have proved this point to you over and over again.

You claim other peopel dont read your replies but I believe its you who isnt reading anything beyond what you want to hear.

Lessie - Lost City

You cant solo HH ... so ? b:cry
I cant tank jewel or mantavip, barbs and mages way under my level can.

Should I go make a "nerf the barbs and mages" topic and cry there now ?b:laugh

Mosz - Heavens Tear

Cat - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I believe her point was that Archers use a bug to exploit to Zhen, yet you dont see venos whining about that. Yet people are whinning about having the pet skill bleed fixed cause its supposedly bugged..


I still dont see how you can insist other classes cant solo TT as well. A BM posted in here that he could solo it at lvl 65.. Sticky has posted he can solo TT 1-1, 2-1, 1-2 and even 2-2 on SQUAD MODE!!! ANd hes a barb.. So how can you still sit there and say other classes cant solo TT.. What you mean is you cant do it for w.e reason so you want to whine still, I have proved this point to you over and over again.

You claim other peopel dont read your replies but I believe its you who isnt reading anything beyond what you want to hear.

GM STATED ARCHER ZHEN IS NOT A BUG, DOES EVERY VENO GO BLIND WHEN THIS IS MENTIONED?
Sticky does not solo 2-2 on squad mode , he looses up to 200k off a charm dureing it when doing 1 cleric, he can tank it , not solo them stop your damn lies.

Lessie - Lost City wrote: »

You cant solo HH ... so ? b:cry
I cant tank jewel or mantavip, barbs and mages way under my level can.

Should I go make a "nerf the barbs and mages" topic and cry there now ?b:laugh

they tank them WITH A CLERIC, not on thier own, unless theyre like 20-30 lvls higher , and well hmm ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO BE LVL 170-180 now is it? k thx

Kaelis - Heavens Tear

you know what some of your points have been valid and i understood what you were saying but now you just made a complete idiot of yourself and lost any respect i had for your opinions

personal attack? you need to learn to read and get over your pms or whatever seriously. Last i heard saying a archer probably zhenned wasn't a personal attack and oh wait you did zhen so its a personal attack how

ok archer zhenning is left in game so its fine but wait omg so are pets bleed so good job topic over you owned yourself b:bye

I never said i wanted to zhen lol I'm not the one complaining thats you. I could zhen if i want to but its boring and i can't afk like you

Oh so basically your saying the OP was saying **** so you derailed the topic well in that case everything you have said its counted as spam by definition is it not?

You are saying that I am not contributing to the conversation when all you are doing is crying because a class you can 1hit easily has a small chance to beat you if you don't attack them first if they spend $200+ b:laugh

All you are doing is making an idiot out of yourself nothing is getting changed so just quit the game now before you end up having to go see a psychologist due to the mental stress that veno's have personally caused you

Mosz - Heavens Tear

saying i coudlnt be past lvl 80 without zhen , yes thats a personal attack, stating that i suck at grinding

left in game? GM specifically said its ok, maybe because of its relation to BB & dragons breath
has gm every said pet bleed is ok? is it OBVIOUSLY A BUG? yes, does ANYONE think its not a bug?

discussions can evolve its nto necessary derailing, if someone states x y and z are BS VENO IS OVERPOWERED and you explain x, not so true, y not so true, heres why z works and dotn forget a , b , and c , thats not spam

im crying? FFS what an argument of the weak, , also a good veno its not that easy to 1 hit with bramble

thanks for adding NO FACTS or anything worthwhile to the discussion in yet another of your posts, these pointless nonfactual flame posts should end this topic

swiftlikeafox

I remember the defense to the zhen bug went a little something like this "The skill description does NOT say until target is dead"

Well fair is fair.... the skill description for flesh ream is "pet deals a certain percentage of base damage over a certain amount of time"..... WHERE in the skill description does it say that "this damage only applies to monsters"??? WHERE in the skill description does it say "except in PvP"???? WHERE can you show me an official aknowledgement that pets flesh ream skill is bugged and is not working as it was intended???

And just for the record Mosz..... The GM did NOT say the archer AOE skill was working as intended, and he did NOT say that it wasn't, he simply said they will not be pursuing punishment for those who use it in such a way.

Kaelis - Heavens Tear

Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

saying i coudlnt be past lvl 80 without zhen , yes thats a personal attack, stating that i suck at grinding

left in game? GM specifically said its ok, maybe because of its relation to BB & dragons breath
has gm every said pet bleed is ok? is it OBVIOUSLY A BUG? yes, does ANYONE think its not a bug?

discussions can evolve its nto necessary derailing, if someone states x y and z are BS VENO IS OVERPOWERED and you explain x, not so true, y not so true, heres why z works and dotn forget a , b , and c , thats not spam

im crying? FFS what an argument of the weak, , also a good veno its not that easy to 1 hit with bramble

thanks for adding NO FACTS or anything worthwhile to the discussion in yet another of your posts, these pointless nonfactual flame posts should end this topic

lol i said probably and that would be true of 90% of archers so what i said is true the chances are you did

if you didn't then go for you but that changes nothing and it still is not a personal attack

ok lets do some facts

yes you can not 1hit a veno with bramble hood up but that is a 2 spark skill which lasts 15 seconds and then has a 30 second cooldown if we was pvping and saw each other at the same time you could 1hit me before i even finished casting it nevermind if i didn't have 2 sparks

so you can kill a veno in a second but a phoenix couldn't even get to you within a second then when it does you can use wing shield buy some time

so it will take a phoenix like 10 seconds at least to kill you but you can kill us in 1 so in that case it should be archer the one getting nerfed

as for you saying a gm has told you that archer zhenning isn't bug you get that gm here then to say it and get them to say that bleed is then because you have not provided any facts yourself

want another fact? look at the poll majority by a huge amount says that they shouldn't be nerfed

on the other topic you said there's 2-5 issues wrong with veno's?
wth you barely have one issue so what the others?
well if the games solo class shouldn't be able to solo then archers the phys dps class should have lowest damage

the point is with the shield thing is that its not your topic and its not what the OP said either so who are you to say that he is the only one that understands the topic when it was in fact completely different since you are that veno's are not overpowered they just need some bugs that need fixing

Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

ps if you read what i say i dont say they are overpowered, i say there are 2-5 serious inbalancing/bug issues that should be addressed
[some] venos and the everyone is crying in jealously attack, sigh sigh sigh.

Lessie - Lost City

^^ owned.

All of his arguments have been destroyed and beaten over like a dead horse, why is this topic still alive anyway ??

Hmmm probably coz he's hilarious.