Money making : How to do it.
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Amiris - Sanctuary
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Hello all, Amiris here. Felt like making a short guide on moneymaking, because it seems the majority of newer people have trouble keeping up with equipment, and nearly every high lvl player complains about skill costs. First of all, don't mind my avatar. My main is NOT lvl 42. She's higher. Amiris is my forum char because the rest of my avatars are bugged.
Anyway, on to the actual guide. I'll divide the concept of money making into two subcategories.
1) Making money
2) Saving the money you've made
Should be reasonable enough. Alright, on to making money.
I'll list several effective ways to do this.
A) Grind.
Fairly obvious. When grinding, you get lots of money and item drops. Pick them ALL up, unless there's some insane swarm of monsters on top of it and you can't handle them. Do NOT ignore the money drops, even though there seems to be so little money. It builds up. A player lvling from 1-20 without picking up any money missed out on, on average, about 50-60K. And those are the easy no-grind lvls.
Also, sell any drops you may get to the NPC. This includes Dragon Quest drops, unless you're actually able to sell them to other players. I wouldn't count on that. From my own experiences, it's best to sell every single DQ drop to the NPC, unless you're really desperate to upgrade your bank.
Items you should keep :
-Things you may need, such as potions
-Good equipment (good equipment is any BLUE two-star item or better. Explanation below.)
-Materials if you need them
Just for comparison, at lvl 45, my Venomancer made about 100K while grinding 30%.
Help people
Sounds odd, doesn't it. "But Amiris, I don't want to get paid for helping people." That's right, you don't. Helping people just because they'll pay you isn't exactly nice. However, it does work the other way around. People may pay you just because you helped them. Like a Ch'in squad needing a Cleric, those aren't exactly rare, and they'll often end up paying the Cleric for their help. Other such occasions are helping people with a dungeon (without wine. You don't get paid for a wined run.), or crafting items for others (provided they give you the materials).
C) Sell the good items
To players, that is. If you got a nice equipment drop from a monster, your best option would be to sell it to a player, because they're usually worth a lot more than the NPC will pay you. Good equipment is usually a blue-named two-star item with decent stats (By which I mean a magic weapon with accuracy does NOT have decent stats). Now, there's three types of people:
-People who sell their items through chat. This is usually not a great option. Trade chat in West Archo can get you a buyer sometimes, but it's usually not very effective.
-People who sell their items through a 'cat shop'. This is a good option for the medium-priced items.
-People who sell their items through the auction. This is a great option for the medium to high-priced items. You can set a minimum bid (and a buyout price), then just go grind. After 24 hours, the item will get sold to the highest bidder (earlier if someone payed the buyout price). Downside is that you have to pay to use the auction. Costs are negligible though, just make sure you'll get more money out of it than you put in.
D) Farm
"What, I'm not a farmer!" No, but you should farm materials. Anytime you see a material, grab it. They sell high and they're quite common, especially at the higher lvls, when you're the only one around to grab it. It's usually best to decide what materials you'll grab though, as bank space is limited. If you have to decide, pick either herbs or the rest.
E) FB's are great exp
But they're horrible for money. Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT lvl doing just call to duties for the reward. There is NO money reward, and you won't get a lot of drops in dungeons. You may get lucky and get a mold, but don't count on it. Do an fb every once in a while, don't constantly stand in towns asking for call to duties.
How does this make money? Because it relates to grinding. No fb's = more grinding = more money.
There, that's basic money making. Now, how to save the money you've made.
A) Walk, fly, run, swim
"Uhh, I do that already." Yes, but not enough. Way too many people teleport around places. Put it this way : If you're paying to teleport around Archosaur, or paying the -I think- 5K to go from Sumor Camp to Swiftwind Tribe, you're wasting your money. You may think it's not a lot, but it really builds up. Teleporting is the number 1 mistake people make regarding their money. I generally only teleport between the following places :
-The three main cities : They're relatively far from each other, and I'll admit it's quite dull to fly between them as much as you should. Therefore, I teleport between these.
-City of the Lost -> Wellspring Village : My gateway to Archosaur. It costs 200 coins, and flying from there to Archosaur takes about 2 minutes. Saves you 2.8K.
-The towns from lvl 1-20 : Eh, it's only 200 coins, you can make that back from a single monster. You have to walk too much at the lower lvls otherwise.
Also, if you have TW teleports in your faction, use them wisely, because they're awesome.
Edit: The FREE teleport to Archosaur. Starting at lvl 40, if you want to get to Archosaur, go to a main town (the lvl 1 and 2 territory towns) and go to the Adventure Assistant and Khatru Pup. Have either teleport you into the Cube of Fate, then talk to the Exit manager in there to warp to Archosaur. Free teleport, use it.
Don't buy NPC items
NPC items are NOT worth the price you pay for them, though I suppose shards are an exception to that rule. If you need items, buy them from players or the auction. This especially goes for equipment. Usually, blue two-stars in the auction are cheaper than white 1-star NPC items.
C) Don't buy stuff cause it's pretty
Too often do I see this: people buying three-stars with horrible stats just because they glow. Or imbuing elemental shards into your equipment, just for the looks. That's a LOT of money down the drain. And a blue weapon isn't really exceptional either - don't expect to be seen as a god just cause you have one.
D) Boutique Clothes don't do anything
So don't get them unless you really, really want them. And even then, make sure you can really spare the money. Boutique Clothes are only there to look nice. I suppose this falls under C a bit...
E) Only get the good skills
Don't waste your money just to try a skill out. Read the description, look it up, then decide whether or not you want it. For example, many wizards want to get Hailstorm, it's an AoE and all. However, the skill is totally rubbish. Money (and SP) wasted.
F) Forums first
Got a question? Ask it on the forums. Don't waste teleacoustics on world chat to get an answer to a simple question. I, for one, look at the forums every 30 minutes or so, to see if there's unanswered questions.
So there you have it. Hope that helped some of you newer players, and maybe even a couple higher lvls. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, and feel free to submit anything you think should be added.
Anyway, on to the actual guide. I'll divide the concept of money making into two subcategories.
1) Making money
2) Saving the money you've made
Should be reasonable enough. Alright, on to making money.
I'll list several effective ways to do this.
A) Grind.
Fairly obvious. When grinding, you get lots of money and item drops. Pick them ALL up, unless there's some insane swarm of monsters on top of it and you can't handle them. Do NOT ignore the money drops, even though there seems to be so little money. It builds up. A player lvling from 1-20 without picking up any money missed out on, on average, about 50-60K. And those are the easy no-grind lvls.
Also, sell any drops you may get to the NPC. This includes Dragon Quest drops, unless you're actually able to sell them to other players. I wouldn't count on that. From my own experiences, it's best to sell every single DQ drop to the NPC, unless you're really desperate to upgrade your bank.
Items you should keep :
-Things you may need, such as potions
-Good equipment (good equipment is any BLUE two-star item or better. Explanation below.)
-Materials if you need them
Just for comparison, at lvl 45, my Venomancer made about 100K while grinding 30%.
Help peopleSounds odd, doesn't it. "But Amiris, I don't want to get paid for helping people." That's right, you don't. Helping people just because they'll pay you isn't exactly nice. However, it does work the other way around. People may pay you just because you helped them. Like a Ch'in squad needing a Cleric, those aren't exactly rare, and they'll often end up paying the Cleric for their help. Other such occasions are helping people with a dungeon (without wine. You don't get paid for a wined run.), or crafting items for others (provided they give you the materials).
C) Sell the good items
To players, that is. If you got a nice equipment drop from a monster, your best option would be to sell it to a player, because they're usually worth a lot more than the NPC will pay you. Good equipment is usually a blue-named two-star item with decent stats (By which I mean a magic weapon with accuracy does NOT have decent stats). Now, there's three types of people:
-People who sell their items through chat. This is usually not a great option. Trade chat in West Archo can get you a buyer sometimes, but it's usually not very effective.
-People who sell their items through a 'cat shop'. This is a good option for the medium-priced items.
-People who sell their items through the auction. This is a great option for the medium to high-priced items. You can set a minimum bid (and a buyout price), then just go grind. After 24 hours, the item will get sold to the highest bidder (earlier if someone payed the buyout price). Downside is that you have to pay to use the auction. Costs are negligible though, just make sure you'll get more money out of it than you put in.
D) Farm
"What, I'm not a farmer!" No, but you should farm materials. Anytime you see a material, grab it. They sell high and they're quite common, especially at the higher lvls, when you're the only one around to grab it. It's usually best to decide what materials you'll grab though, as bank space is limited. If you have to decide, pick either herbs or the rest.
E) FB's are great exp
But they're horrible for money. Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT lvl doing just call to duties for the reward. There is NO money reward, and you won't get a lot of drops in dungeons. You may get lucky and get a mold, but don't count on it. Do an fb every once in a while, don't constantly stand in towns asking for call to duties.
How does this make money? Because it relates to grinding. No fb's = more grinding = more money.
There, that's basic money making. Now, how to save the money you've made.
A) Walk, fly, run, swim
"Uhh, I do that already." Yes, but not enough. Way too many people teleport around places. Put it this way : If you're paying to teleport around Archosaur, or paying the -I think- 5K to go from Sumor Camp to Swiftwind Tribe, you're wasting your money. You may think it's not a lot, but it really builds up. Teleporting is the number 1 mistake people make regarding their money. I generally only teleport between the following places :
-The three main cities : They're relatively far from each other, and I'll admit it's quite dull to fly between them as much as you should. Therefore, I teleport between these.
-City of the Lost -> Wellspring Village : My gateway to Archosaur. It costs 200 coins, and flying from there to Archosaur takes about 2 minutes. Saves you 2.8K.
-The towns from lvl 1-20 : Eh, it's only 200 coins, you can make that back from a single monster. You have to walk too much at the lower lvls otherwise.
Also, if you have TW teleports in your faction, use them wisely, because they're awesome.
Edit: The FREE teleport to Archosaur. Starting at lvl 40, if you want to get to Archosaur, go to a main town (the lvl 1 and 2 territory towns) and go to the Adventure Assistant and Khatru Pup. Have either teleport you into the Cube of Fate, then talk to the Exit manager in there to warp to Archosaur. Free teleport, use it.
Don't buy NPC itemsNPC items are NOT worth the price you pay for them, though I suppose shards are an exception to that rule. If you need items, buy them from players or the auction. This especially goes for equipment. Usually, blue two-stars in the auction are cheaper than white 1-star NPC items.
C) Don't buy stuff cause it's pretty
Too often do I see this: people buying three-stars with horrible stats just because they glow. Or imbuing elemental shards into your equipment, just for the looks. That's a LOT of money down the drain. And a blue weapon isn't really exceptional either - don't expect to be seen as a god just cause you have one.
D) Boutique Clothes don't do anything
So don't get them unless you really, really want them. And even then, make sure you can really spare the money. Boutique Clothes are only there to look nice. I suppose this falls under C a bit...
E) Only get the good skills
Don't waste your money just to try a skill out. Read the description, look it up, then decide whether or not you want it. For example, many wizards want to get Hailstorm, it's an AoE and all. However, the skill is totally rubbish. Money (and SP) wasted.
F) Forums first
Got a question? Ask it on the forums. Don't waste teleacoustics on world chat to get an answer to a simple question. I, for one, look at the forums every 30 minutes or so, to see if there's unanswered questions.
So there you have it. Hope that helped some of you newer players, and maybe even a couple higher lvls. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, and feel free to submit anything you think should be added.
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Credit to Symour for the signature.
Amiris is my forum character. My actual main is Andralia.
1,000 posts as of 10/01/09, which was also my birthday!
Credit to Symour for the signature.
Amiris is my forum character. My actual main is Andralia.
1,000 posts as of 10/01/09, which was also my birthday!
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I agree with everything you have said here.Main characters
Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
Sage Barbarian Malego - 910 -
excellent guide b:chuckle0
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This guide is really helpful. Thx alot. It needs a stickyb:victory
One thing though. Can stuff in the item mall/boutique be bought with coins?Previous GE player. Pretty dissapointed. So hope PWI is better at controlling botters ^^
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Nice I like it. Very helpful. New players should read this.0
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AdriaOrici - Heavens Tear wrote: »This guide is really helpful. Thx alot. It needs a stickyb:victory
One thing though. Can stuff in the item mall/boutique be bought with coins?
Yes, from other players. There's also a gold trade system ingame, which is supposed to make it possible to trade ingame coins to Zen. However, I have no clue whatsoever how that works. It looks really complicated, and the built in tutorial isn't much help.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Edited guide by adding fb's to the list of making money. Or rather, by saying fb's don't make you money.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I don't know if it's just me but during questing and griniding I notice that many people don't pick up their drops for some reason so I just pick everything I see and npc it b:laugh more for me!0
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Great guide!
I have to admit, I'm an incorrigible packrat, and have been saving every single one of my DQ drops so far. But even with a fully upgraded bank and inven, I don't have anywhere near the space I'll need to save everything.
After reading this, I said **** it, and NPC'ed every DQ item for about a total of 1 mil. I'm too lazy to run around the world actually doing the quests, anyways. Finally! Free space!!0 -
thnx, i think i really should start more runing and less teleportin...( i was wondering where the money was doing...).
but i also have a question... i'm not sure if it suits here... but i've selled most of the stff i get but i've saved things that have marked dregonqest... is taht smart or should i just make money out of them? and what r the nr behind the dragonquest name? lvl?0 -
Sell them to an NPC unless you really need bank space. collecting enough of them finishes the quest the banker can give you to add more space.
The numbers are the lvls for the Dragon Quests you use them for. These quests aren't worth the trouble though, in my opinion.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Don't sell dull claws or element fragments, you can easily sell to player shops. Picking coin drops in early levels is useless (less than 50 coin) especially if you solo. 1 common 800 gold dq drop is like 10-20x that amount.
Use focus or life powders if they are most cost effective than using pots. Sell silk threads, glue, mats to players. Check prices around.0 -
Quoting myself : Do NOT ignore the money drops, even though there seems to be so little money. It builds up. A player lvling from 1-20 without picking up any money missed out on, on average, about 50-60K. And those are the easy no-grind lvls.
So yeah. Pick up cash.
Also, focus and life powder may be better than potions, but what's even better is not using ANYTHING. Meditate. It doesn't take that long really.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I have one question: can I make my own "cat shop"? and then yes - how?
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Emotes (press E) -> Consignment Shop (it's in the 'trade' part)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Thanks I know it's off topic, but I think u have answers to everything
how could I put any clothes on? I'm running around all the time with those whte clothes 
tryed to change something by "try the clothes" but nothing happens 
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Press the Special tab at the top of your inventory, then equip your boutique clothes. Then mark the little box next to the special tab to display the clothes ingame.
Edit: Also works the other way around. By 'white clothes', I assume you mean your underwear. Just mark the normal box to display your regular armor.
Oh, and Try Clothes is only visible to yourself, in that window. You do NOT actually own those clothes, so they don't show up ingame.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Bump. If a mod thinks this topic worthy of a sticky, please do so so I don't have to bump this =X[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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ooo thanks a lot i alredy use like 2/3 of these tips but every little bit helps [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Well written and quite realistic. Generally money making guides on any game involve tedious non-alternative methods such as focusing solely on player/cat shops. I follow most of what you have said but I avoid selling blue items to players, though, thats mainly due to laziness on my part.
On a (hopefully) related note can you explain what you meant by the dragon quests not being worth it? May I ask what the reward/payout is? I have quite a bit of gold tied up in Dragon quest items so I'm curious.0 -
The reward is a mediocre amount of Exp, SP and Gold that does not make up for the costs and time you'll need to do them. If you need Dragon Orders to get the rare items, buy them from the money you make by not doing the quests.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Thanks 4 the sweet quide. Get back 2 meb:bye0
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Bump to keep on first page. Please people, if you use this guide, post something. Compliments, rants, improvements, a random bump, anything.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Yeah, sure Ill bump this. LOL Great guide keep up the good work. ^_^0
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Bump once again.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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free bump and props! b:pleased
good tips for new players.
still haven't made up my mind to just npc dq or to use. the exp is helpful, but it takes so long just to get it. not even sure what i'd want from dq 0 -
Bumping...great guide![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Great guide and good to know when I start playing tonight.
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thnx for the dragonquest inf and ofcourse the money making part... ia havent teleported after reading that... eccept for once...
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so even tho the DQ qeusts would help me lvl fast its not worth it good thing about it is you get to travel and see wonder sites as you journey to finsih the qeust just a thought and this guide has made my wiz save up 170k so far i have been doing this guide instructions sense day one good jobCollector of pet eggs, armor, weapons, fashion, and mountsb:chuckle0
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Sigh. Bump.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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