Basically I run with ACT 24/7 (or as much gametime that allows for) and I'm very well aware of the impact. And I have no objection against tweaking. Happens all the time. But this is not a tweak. This is a tripple nerf with a blade stabbed in the back and one that nobody called for in PvE. We don't play "who's the better killer" in PvE. We don't give a goblin's poopdeck who does the most damage. The very least they could do is reverse the entire thing and give us Shard back as a viable skill option. But I don't see that in the patch notes anywhere.
But even if this tripple nerf is justified, it would be downright stupid to implement it before the other DPS classes are back up to spec. As if the difficulty increase wasn't enough already.
If that were true weak classes wouldn't have gotten kicked for cw's in previous mods. Matter of fact if it didn't matter, no one would be complaining about the nerf.
if not nerf the TR´s i will stop to play this ****.
the best class of the game on pvp and never nerfed. now want to nerf cw.
U don't know why? Cuz rich kids wouldn't donate this game anymore
what?
chalenge: make a cw and go pvp cw vs tr(invisible bamby) and you go know what i say.
1 - Invisible
2 - Stuns dont work, when work is for 1s ,0,05s
3 - Much deflection
4 - you cant atack what u cant see obvius
5 - High demage
6 - The best class of pvp on this game.
and now?
Sory if this continues, i go stop to play. i have put a lot of money on this game to make a good cw and only nerfed, I DONT WANT MAKE A TR, but the game its forcing me.
Then fix the bleeding problem with the class. Don't go punishing other classes for something they cannot help. And certainly not before these other classes are repaired and viable. Because all that does is throwing people into a large pit of needless difficulty increase. We're not all BiS, you know.
You know, when more people like You actually learn to play CW as a CONTROL CLASS you'll be fine.
what about this? when will be nerf this class (TR)?
They will get around to it eventually. This nerf to Storm Spell proves that change happens even if it is slow. And who knows the TR changes might come next week. Patches like this that do things like fixing tenacity and other long standing issues (SS) give me another shot of hope for the future
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I bloody well would if they let the CW have any form of control. Have you tried controlling anything in a T2 dungeon lately? That's already been nerfed into the ground thanks to some PvP whiners.
Read my first post to you, i do them DAILY with no issues.
then read the bleeding patch notes and discussions from the last 6 months. It's not just rework 6 that ruined control for a CW. That was just an extra "bonus".
Sorry. My annoyance is not directed at you and I shouldn't take it out on you. My annoyance is with the lame, uncalled for and not even half required nerfs and backstabbing decisions made by the producer. Usually when one of my clients tries to come back on his word, I return the commission and leave. I'm not used to taking BS from anyone, least of all people who have no idea what they are actually doing. And again, I don't mean you
All I am trying to say is that personally i think this was called for. As to the rest, CW can join the rest of the classes in screaming why did you nerf me! As Red Green said, "We're all in this together"
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Looks like the nerf isn't as bad as you thought it was
That isn't especially useful because we have no idea what his gear and pre nerf procs looked like. Looking at those numbers all I can think is if he's geared like I am the class is dead. Should have leved my gwf and made him orange and teal but I'm not doing it again.
That isn't especially useful because we have no idea what his gear and pre nerf procs looked like. Looking at those numbers all I can think is if he's geared like I am the class is dead. Should have leved my gwf and made him orange and teal but I'm not doing it again.
If I remember correctly, Agathe is 3.1k ilvl with some legendary stuff but not BiS.
he said he had 65% char sheet crit, Thauma. and was in WoD, randomly killing mobs. last i recall he had R8s or worse. and evidently Stormspell is still second on the list of sources of damage at 20% (of his small sample) after lostmauth.
I am pretty sure that the SS nerf isn't as bad as you all think, and as i was hoping lol. More testing will be good though
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I was right, they reduced base arpen resistance to 20% (down from 40%) so the regular pvpers will be running around with 60% arpen resistance in total. Making RI 40% effective. That's pretty decent.
The way it's worded in the notes, it would result in a 30% overall damage nerf. I don't know what class you play, but 30% less damage is quite a big deal for a DPS class. Thankfully it appears to be less worse than that in the first few tests.
He plays a BiS PvP CW. And not like devs completely removed Storm Spell. It still does 20% of your damage as ppl tested.
\And out of curiousity, why can't it crit in the first place? Why does this have to be the only offensive skill that cannot crit?
It's not the only the only proc skill that cannot crit. GWF's Deep Gash & DC's Fire of the Gods cannot crit either. I agree with the levelling of proc damage rules, though the ICD I was shocked by. (forgive the pun)
It looks like you and others have done some testing already, so the ICD isn't killer, which is good.
This is in a test that spells switched around. This means that there's more stormspell procs compared to the total amount of spell used, which gives it an artificially higher damage percentage.
now you go to preview and test how SS is performing now and make some changes. DPS CW didn't go anywhere and your doom and gloom is highly misplaced. I promise you that CWs will be just fine with the changes
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If that were true weak classes wouldn't have gotten kicked for cw's in previous mods. Matter of fact if it didn't matter, no one would be complaining about the nerf.
the best class of the game on pvp and never nerfed. now want to nerf cw.
what?
chalenge: make a cw and go pvp cw vs tr(invisible bamby) and you go know what i say.
1 - Invisible
2 - Stuns dont work, when work is for 1s ,0,05s
3 - Much deflection
4 - you cant atack what u cant see obvius
5 - High demage
6 - The best class of pvp on this game.
and now?
Sory if this continues, i go stop to play. i have put a lot of money on this game to make a good cw and only nerfed, I DONT WANT MAKE A TR, but the game its forcing me.
You know, when more people like You actually learn to play CW as a CONTROL CLASS you'll be fine.
Or you can keep whining *shrug*.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seMr1d4H5HI
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what about this? when will be nerf this class (TR)?
I think a crypit never made a cw, and never played with a cw on this game.
They will get around to it eventually. This nerf to Storm Spell proves that change happens even if it is slow. And who knows the TR changes might come next week. Patches like this that do things like fixing tenacity and other long standing issues (SS) give me another shot of hope for the future
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Read my first post to you, i do them DAILY with no issues.
Looks like the nerf isn't as bad as you thought it was
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What the best build for cw now last this update?
Fire = ****
Storm = Nerf
Storm Spell save us, because the stuns dont work on tr, the storm spell made the unique demage on trs.
And now?
All I am trying to say is that personally i think this was called for. As to the rest, CW can join the rest of the classes in screaming why did you nerf me! As Red Green said, "We're all in this together"
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That isn't especially useful because we have no idea what his gear and pre nerf procs looked like. Looking at those numbers all I can think is if he's geared like I am the class is dead. Should have leved my gwf and made him orange and teal but I'm not doing it again.
roll a gwf or a tr
If I remember correctly, Agathe is 3.1k ilvl with some legendary stuff but not BiS.
I am pretty sure that the SS nerf isn't as bad as you all think, and as i was hoping lol. More testing will be good though
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Your largest source of damage an't crit anymore. Maybe things were really weird in pvp the last week and you are disorientated.
He plays a BiS PvP CW. And not like devs completely removed Storm Spell. It still does 20% of your damage as ppl tested.
It does not.
Ueah, because saying so automatically makes it true, right? Prove this wrong: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?956371-Some-changes-on-CW-tommorow&p=11252521&viewfull=1#post11252521
It's not the only the only proc skill that cannot crit. GWF's Deep Gash & DC's Fire of the Gods cannot crit either. I agree with the levelling of proc damage rules, though the ICD I was shocked by. (forgive the pun)
It looks like you and others have done some testing already, so the ICD isn't killer, which is good.
This is in a test that spells switched around. This means that there's more stormspell procs compared to the total amount of spell used, which gives it an artificially higher damage percentage.
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