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Rangers way imbalanced
Granted I have only played one for about 10 levels, however, the DPS compared to all the other classes is ridiculously too high. They have melee and ranged dps capabilities that is higher than both a Control Wizard and Thief. Their range is greater than the Control Wizard and they have push back CC that rival the Control Wizard. Basically they are the super class and need to have some balance.
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Try playing at say 30+. Earlier levels tend to be a cake walk if you have AOE and the Rangers have plenty of it. The class is very well balanced at higher levels (although their single target damage tends to be on the low side), with one exception: Daily powers that activate at a % of you Action Points. It works, it's very cool, but the other classes should of gotten it as well.
Anyway, it's way too early to call for significant nerfs or buffs. Give everyone a few weeks to play with equipment and builds.
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but at low levels rangers are easy to level, the class reaches about 30+
then it starts to get challenging and have to move around more.
You know, I think this may have more to do with the Founder and Ranger Pack Weapons than the Class itself. They are CRAZY strong, even for Founder and Pack Weapons. They make ANY Ranger seem like Superman for about the first 15 levels or so. Things start to even out after that, reaching the point of a well balanced Striker by about level 25 or so.
Add into this whole mess the fact that you have a whole mess of Whales (the wealthy, powerful Gamers who WILL have all the best gear at all times, one way or another) who are equipping their Rangers with the best that multiple LVL 60's and the AH can provide and you get an inflated sense of the Classes power. Let things settle out a bit. When the Whales move on to shinny new toys and people out-level the Founder and Pack Gear you will see a whole new, well balanced Ranger.
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1) I am not asking for Nerfs. I'm asking for balance. If that means buffing other classes or removing a decimal from the damage quantifiers of the Rangers, it doesn't matter. In my opinion, this is a balance issue for pvp as well as pve.
2) I have a CW but not much higher than the Ranger. I play mostly on a cleric. Yes, I know, clerics are useless now, thanks, lol.
Again, please refrain from commenting about balance until you have played/gone up against the class at endgame level for an extended period of time.
Bards in D&D are like the Jack of All Trades Master of None class. They can fill in wherever they're needed and have some nice buffs to call their own if a party already has all the normal roles filled. An HR is like that (especially on the buff front), their melee damage is laughable compared to a TR and their ranged damage isn't anything compared to a CW.
Although they look powerful due to their early on AoE, I can actually feel the difference while playing. There are bosses I had some trouble with as an HR that I tore through like a hot knife through butter as a CW.
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Yes I have, and though strong in DPS, I still contend that the Ranger is far beyond them in DPS. It's ok though, I'll wait for the "Newness" of the class to wear off, then watch the number of people agreeing with me grow. This will just stand as a "I said it first" thread.
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They can be a little bit of a glass cannon, much like the TR I'd assume, though I've never run a TR, I've seen enough in combat to notice that the HR is similar in some ways.
I am finding that the HR is insanely fun to play ...
^just this!
I wanna tell u something:
HR is the best class at low lvl and YES ''unbalanced'' compared to other classes!
WHY?
Well just because we unlock our best at-will at lvl 2! NO other class has that aoe potential at that lvl!
But as soon as other classes catch up it's pretty similar and at lvl 60 HR isn't even close to be ''op''.
Maybe it feels like it cuz 99% of the playerbase doesnt know how to deal with HR!
The only thing that is ''op'', is the fun that this class offers u!
Its not a lame Excuse you cant fully Tell a classes Max Potential just because it has a easier time Wiping out Mobs In PvE i have some advice Go from 1 to 60 without ever using split shot. Arguably the only reason the class seems so OP is cuas of this 1 At will IMHO
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My 10-year-old son said that the Ranger is by far the best class now, because I can annihilate entire mob groups in one shot. Therefore, I'm grateful to those of you who are offering the perspective that comes from playing the HR at higher levels. I don't want it to be OP...nor U(nder)P. I'm glad that most people are finding that it is about right, especially at the higher levels. In a month or two, perhaps it will become clear that some tweaks will need to be made...but for now, I think it's fine.
At the least, early feedback should be taken with a couple of Ocean's worth of Sodium Chloride until we get a better idea of the class' performance in Epic Dungeons.
the GWF is OP? When did this happen? Its been nurfed so many times lol... The aoe dmg that the ranger does now that was the gwf....How is GWF OP?
Get to level 60 then talk. Calling for nerfs after 10 levels makes you look like a fool.