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It's time to stop selling founders packs
zzhylaw
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The game has now launched, its time to remove the founders packs. Your not "founding" anything at this point. It's rather insulting to people who purchased them already with the understanding that these were time sensitive purchases and we were helping to fund NW as well as getting stuff.
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..uhh yeah I just checked they are still selling them. Swapping the word "founder" with "pack" doesn't magically make it different. The prices are the same and the goods are the same, drow, panther, spider, 2million AD, am I missing something?
Yea I don't think they get the founder tag.
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This isn't your choice to make.
Yes, but i cant buy it because i have already the Founder.
So when it is different why cant i buy it ??
I suspect you can't because you already have everything that is in it, and more.
maybe ill get one in 3 weeks... i'll just put a tiny tiny amount away each week!
bring a lot of money to their pocket, why stop?
They should be changing things around to sell packages with comparable but not identical items if they need to sell essentially the same packages forever and can't come up with different ideas.
11 page thread, people have asked on Twitter and FB and only gotten a brush off.
They marketed these Founder Packs as exclusive and said, numerous times, that they were time sensitive, even urging us to "Buy while you can!" with talk of all the exclusive items, regarding Founders.
They revoke that, lied, and started re-selling them, without a little title and name change, to clear their backs of legal issues (false advertisement etc.)
People as customers have a right to be upset when lied to and tricked, the fans that helped fund this project got slapped in the face (whether some didn't think it painful or not).
No way to spin this to make Cryptic/PW look fair, but greedy and untrustworthy.
Please, never breed.
People exercise their right to be upset, endlessly, over the tiniest things these days. The Founders packs were exclusive and time sensitive. Now they simply have a similar new offer, that will change once Drow are available to all. Those upset over PW finding a way to continue offering players a way to contribute substantially to the game with a single purchase will have to find a new way to feel especially special if they don't feel especially special enough anymore.
but honestly, theyre a company and they first and foremost goal is to make money
why would they remove an item that made them a substantial amount?
I'm surprised that anyone truly expected the packs to be exclusive to such an extent. For one, it can be expected that at least some, if not all features of the pack would eventually be available in some other form (whether by free expansion or by individual purchase).
Item shop marketing in MMOs isn't that different from RL marketing in some ways. "Limited edition" items usually offer extras you can get elsewhere or are simply cosmetically different from the standard editions; urgent call-to-action sales are often relaunched the following season or even the following week, but with a different item focus; and once in a while, the promotion truly is unique (or at the very least very rare).
Will they release Drow? Surely. Will we be able to purchase the armored spider mount separately at some point? Wouldn't rule it out, but can't say. Will players ever get to purchase the Hero of the North title again? Probably not. Will they continue to release high-ticket bundled promos? Absolutely
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And you clearly exercise your right to judge what is "tiny" and to whom. (Holding back a "your girlfriend"-joke here, out of courtesy.)
The thing that is wrong.... is selling you something, claiming its contents to be exclusive, and the purchase of said content only being available for a limited time...... (still with me, slugger?) ... even urging us to "Buy before it's too late!"....... then..... completely revoking this deal...... by starting new sales of the very nearly exact same thing, apart from the name of the pack, and a title.
If you don't see anything shady or wrong with that... I really can't help you.
Because they promised exclusivity to the trusting customers and funders?
They could easily make a NEW pack tho, with other contents, and this would not be an issue.
Obvious.
Heard of them?
Nothing like seeing the same company going out of business every other week. Marketing, it's all in the marketing.
yeah it would be an issue, because they dont have any content at hand to make exclusive
if they wanted to make another pack, they'd have to make all the new stuff that goes into it. They have a cash cow already in the form of this pack, and all theyre doing is milking it. standard procedure
Not the issue I was referring to, obviously. If they dont have anything new to make exclusive, they shouldnt re-use an "old" pack that was labled as exclusive previously.
Thats the issue. Not whether they have extra side content laying about or not.
its not the issue you were referring to but its an issue that would come up if they take your suggestion lol
why waste resources or other "exclusive items" when they already have a pack bringing money in
Irrelevant to the point I was making. What they did was wrong. Period. Nothing else exists that takes away from their guilt in this subject. Nothing should. Ethics.
But defend them, and this type of buisiness practice all you like, if that's what you're trying to do.
They don't need to defend them at all. You just don't understand that what they are doing is out of desperation as the game is losing people day by day. Also, I've never seen such a high price tag for something so absurd in a game before and people buying that stuff. Once the game dies, you aren't special anymore anyways. ROFL
I understand the idea of desperation just fine, thank you. Do you understand simple debating technique? What an argument, or point, is?
Desperation is not a valid reason for every behavior or action. Claiming "I was desperate, so it's ok!" doesn't really fly in court if you swindled someone. Are you following so far? If not, just reread our posts here a few more times before you come back, as this is just wasting time.
Lastly; I'm not special at all, since I never bought a Founder's Pack, but I applaud your effort, with the nice "ROFL" and all.