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sominator
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Hey everyone!
Please use this thread to post your feedback about the newest profession in Neverwinter, Alchemy!
Cheers!
Please use this thread to post your feedback about the newest profession in Neverwinter, Alchemy!
Cheers!
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Dec/2008
Pros - I love the discovery portion of this instead of being handed every recipe as soon as you hit the level. I would love to see this expanded both in alchemy and in the other professions. Maybe have some recipes as drops.
Cons - I don't like that level 1 mats are used from level 1 all the way to level 20 to make aqua vitae. It forces users to farm low level zones.
-Could use more dyes.
That is working as intended. You are only supposed to get the mats and no xp for alchemy. You have 1 task each level that will give you all the XP you need to level. Just do experimentation until you have enough basic alchemical knowledge to do the research task.
Dec/2008
Pelt is used for both leatherworking and alchemy. Wood is exclusive to alchemy. Gather those and then use the wood/pelts to do the simple vitriol extraction. Once you have green and blue vitriol you should be able to do the rank 1 experimentation. Once that is done you will have the basic alchemical knowledge needed to do the research task and level up.
Dec/2008
My problem is that I did all of the basic creation things, but still have not gotten the "Alchemical Knowledge" scroll thing to access the XP gaining task. Do you have to do it several times or should it show up on the first try after making the unstable potion?
This gets you to level 2, but then for the next one you need 3 Basic Alchemical Knowledge. Repeat the Rank 2 experiment until you gain 3 Basic Alchemical Knowledge. I assume that this pattern continues.
Dec/2008
Sometimes with the experimentations you get just an unstable potion and other times you get an unstable potion, a recipe and basic alchemical knowledge. Keep gathering up the mats needed to do the expirimentations and run them. It should always show up on your list of tasks unless you are already running an experimentation or you have the task list filtered to only show tasks where you have all the required mats and you don't have the mats at the moment.
Its a profession that is nice but theirs no real content that "needs" it right now. And being that they go away through death sucks. So im just stockpiling for now
I think adding in dyes that aren't readily available thru AH or Zen purchases as super rare might make it better but overall I really like it.
Looking forward to Weaponsmithing with the upcoming module 1 release as well!
**edited to add, It would be good if, having more than one apthecary you could do more than one experimentation at a time I think. Especially when you get higher than level 2 and need more than one alchemical knowledge scroll. It makes leveling a little slow. Maybe do one where you can do three experiments over x amount of hours like the mass gathering so we can set it to run when we log or something.
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However, since we are only allowed to run a single "Rank __ Experimentation" task at any given time, rather than the usual three (or six) simultaneous runs, progress ends up feeling bottlenecked by that, even if one has sufficient materials.
Since players cannot progress to the next level recipes before also investing several hours in a single "level up" task after they have had enough successful experiments, this further makes alchemy feel forcibly throttled when it comes to progress, rather than a goal that one can invest more or less effort in.
If it could be possible to allow multiple simultaneous queueing of experimentation tasks, it would allow a lot more freedom for potential alchemists, making the process of learning the skill much more leisurely.
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I agree however, leveling is painfully slow.
Definitely need a tutorial somewhere to help those who haven't figured out the experimentation part - had to read the forums 3 times before I understood it (but I'm dense anyway).
I'd also like to see the following added (just a thought):
Love that bolded idea, but would have to find a way to make it work for all classes otherwise even more cries of "NERF THE ROGUES" will be happening. That said, Potion of Plaugefire could be awesome.
1. Leveling process too confusing and convoluted. By the time I hit rank 4 alchemy I need to make 3 different potions and 1 aqua vitae just to do the task "experimentation" which has a CHANCE to gain "alchemical knowledge" in order to do yet another task just to gain XP. The leveling process needs to be simplified and streamlined. Currently it is too convoluted and confusing.
2. Requires TOO many different mats (potions) that CANNOT be stored in the tradeskill inventory but instead are stored in the main inventory (3 space taken) clogging up our already precious inventory space.
Let me breakdown the process:
Alchemy level 4:
1. Make 3 green vitriol for Minor Fortification potions (15 mins).
2. Make 3 blue vitriol for 1 Minor Potion of Force (15 mins).
Note: Green and blue are harvested together. That's count as one 30 mins
3. Make 2 green and 2 blue vitriol for 1 Minor Rejuvination potions (15 mins)
4. Make 2 green and 2 blue vitriol for 1 Aqua Vitae (15 mins)
Note: Green and blue are harvested together. That's count as one 20 mins.
5. Do task "Experimentation Rank 4" to combine all the ingredients for chance to gain Alchemical knowledge (10 mins.)
6. Repeat until you have 3 Alchemical Knowledge.
7. Combine 3 Alchemical knowledge + 2 brimstone for 300 XP (4 hours).
Sad to say, worst profession in the game.
Well you don't level up alchemy the "traditional" way. You need to do "experimentation" to gain the "alchemical knowledge" which is then combined with some "brimstone" in order to gain a big chunk of XP to level up. What's annoying is luck is required to gain those "alchemical knowledge" (they are a random product of experimentation task). Also I have read about bug where people are not getting the require "recipe unlocks" to make the require mats to unlock the next tier. I love the concept of alchemy but execution needs to be streamlined.
Edit: There's a bug with Alchemy when you do collect "task" using the gateway. Sometimes the "alchemical knowledge" doesn't show until either you 1.) relog from gateway or 2.) log into the game itself.
If luck has to be a factor in leveling Alchemy I recommend change the steps to:
1. Harvest X green and X blue vitriol.
2. Do "experimentation task". You get either "potion protoype" or "alchemical knowledge".
4. Combine "alchemical knowledge" and "potion prototype" for XP.
Instead of 7 steps.. you can just do it in 3 steps.
The first couple times doing the Rank 2 Experimentation, I click on details and the final results section shows Minor unstable potion. I complete it and get the minor unstable potion. But the next two times doing the Rank 2 Experimentation, the Final Results section is now showing 3 items: Minor Unstable Potion, Basic Alchemical Knowledge and Recipe for Potion of minor healing. When it completes I am only getting the Minor Unstable Potion and nothing else. Pardon me if I am wrong, but isn't what it says in the final results what you are supposed to get? You could do this rank 2 experimentation 20 times and still not get the 3 scrolls. way too much room for chance to not be on your side here.
The recipe don't actually show up as a physical item. Only the Unstable potion. You can see the Alchemical knowledge in the tradeskill inventory.
Please make more of this type of progression, this is much better than the other professions.
I love the fact that you have to think for more than 2 seconds to progress, that you cant spam 'Protect Caravan' endlessly to get to level 20!
I would like to see:
- Poison - usable by melee classes (and bow if it happens to appear)
- Grenade - usable by casters
where both are a buff like the existing potions - but with DoT rather than a damage bonusWhat Class Are You?
There's also a ton of useful potions and items spread throughout the leveling process, and I really like the fact that some of the player made potions are much more useful than stuff you can just buy or find.
I'm hoping you guys take this direction with more of the crafting options.
I know it doesn't go into my normal inventory. I have been sitting at 1 Basic Alchemical Knowledge in my Trade skill inventory for a while now, and that is even after completing 2 rank 2 experimentations that have shown the basic alchemical knowledge listed in the final result. that is why I am saying there is a major bug in alchemy. it is not rewarding the basic alchemical knowledge when it says it will.