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xylithan
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I've come across this multiple times on Neverwinter. Someone was spamming "WTS Phoera" in Zone chat. I'm interested in buying it so I message the seller. I ask what they want for it, they reply with "AD or Gold, make an offer". Ok so I make an offer roughly around what I think it's worth. I then receive no reply, and then try whispering back to find he/she has put me on /ignore.
This isn't the only case, I've had people say "Offer" then when you offer, they reply with abuse.
Did I miss a meeting or something? Are we meant to be abusive when trading items now?
Has anyone else been experiencing this?
This isn't the only case, I've had people say "Offer" then when you offer, they reply with abuse.
Did I miss a meeting or something? Are we meant to be abusive when trading items now?
Has anyone else been experiencing this?
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Your offer probably wasn't close to what the seller hoped to get or they've previously had a same/better offer also if a seller replies to you via PM it means they have to re-type/link their zone chat WTS spam message out again before furiously hammering it out 10 times a minute.
A lot of people in zone chat seem to have no clue what an item's worth and lack the basic maths skill required to convert prices between 3 different currencies.
You can copy out of chat but can't paste in...
I'm not sure how not responding to you could be classed as an offensive response unless there's something you forgot to include in your original post.
Umm, actually you can. Well, not with right click, but Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V work.
On topic, I don't really see this as a problem. They ignore you, big deal. There's ten thousand more people wanting to sell to or buy from you.
Ah I'm old school I use Ctrl+Insert to copy and Shift+Insert to paste....
The copy works but not the paste I'll try V&C thx!
may I ask what you thought it was worth?
This is what I was interested in before we got sidetracked with the copy+paste irrelevance...
The phoera is roughly worth 100k. so you weren't really off. just a jerk I suppose.
Unless you rip yourself off it's pointless lol.
Or if someone says "Offer, no less than 50k"
Ok... then 50k?
The price dropped that much? I sold one on the AH for 175K not that long ago. Regardless, I agree the guy was probably just a jerk.
Because they're hoping someone stupid comes along and offers something stupid out of ignorance.
That's where I would have went if I was willing to play the going rate like you say.
Me: How much is your Phoera?
Seller: Make me an offer
Me: I dunno how much it's worth, what are you offering it for?
Seller: Just make me an offer and we'll deal
Me: You're selling it, you make me an offer. When I buy stuff on Ebay, there's always a minimum price, so know your role and do the same!
Seller: 500,000 AD
Me: I don't have 500k AD
Seller: How much do you have?
Me: That's none of your business. But since you asked how much I have, I assume that means you are willing to part with it for less than 500k AD. So how much do you wanna sell it for?
Me: Hello?
Seller is ignoring you.
LMAO! Give'em a taste of their own medicine! Cause you do know why idiots like that do stuff like that, right? It's because they are looking to scam a clueless no-ob player! They wanna find someone who is dumber than they already are so they can try suckering them into spending more money than the majority of other players. It takes lots of patience, but it usually pays off in the end, which is sad, but that doesn't mean I can't have fun with them in the mean time.
if I was the trolling type, I would probably do that. but its true. the only reason somebody does WTS offers on zone chat is either to get gold, get AD fast, or to scam. and a lot of time its a scam type thing.
Waiting for a cool sig T.T
That would apply if the game was 3 weeks ago.. nobody knew the price of a dragon egg or a lot of other stuff back then. for now, almost all items have a well known price.
True. What i said mostly apply to when new content comes out or when the game is new. But just letting it out there that there are other reasons why people ask for offers.
I agree with what most of you said about it being an underhanded technique sometimes used to scam people. So research first
Waiting for a cool sig T.T
Also agree, it's one thing to offer something up that's new or rare enough that you don't see it on the AH.
It's quite another to want to "make an offer" on something that has 30-40 of them on the AH, all with buyouts in the general vicinity of one another. The person is looking for a scam---if they wanted to sell it really fast or give a good deal, they'd undercut by 10% and have it gone before they got to the mailbox.
I suppose it's also possible that they want gold, since it isn't readily available without outright farming for it. Also beware the guys that want keys---they either completely fail at the math to figure out what they're worth in AD, or know it and are dishonest.
Either way, there are enough bad apples spamming garbage in the zone chat that it probably isn't worth bothering with anyone there until they are gone.
EDIT: And never ever believe someone that says 'I have this offer already'. That is in poor forum, and usually a flat out lie. Because if you did get that offer, and your ok with that offer. Why are you still taking offers. Your offending both the new offers and the guy that offered higher. Keep your offers secret. Its the polite way to do business. And just so where clear. Bidding and offers are not the same thing. When someone tells me they got 'this offer already' I ask for the name of the person offering that . As the seller just made it a public auction bid and in a bidding war you confront your opponent. See the difference there. If they refuse to give it. You know the offer was a lie for fluff.
yeah... I don't really bother with all that WTS stuff. I don't bother with offers. I even sell on the AH as the cheapest price for the item. you have to know what you want but what you want also has to be a real choice.
There are people who request to put it up on the AH and they will instantly buy it. its one of the perks of advertising an item. an instant sell.
Aha, thank you for clarifying.
You can in theory put something up on the AH at an agreed price and exacting time and do the exchange that way. As some people do indeed do. I will never participate in that. Way to much work. Besides, the seller takes a surcharge hit for it. I never understood why people WTS in zone for AD, and find the practice beyond redundant. ( Note I used it for more reference, I only deal in Gold when buying away from the AH)
well no. the people that do it a lot learn how much the item costs and how much the charge to put it up is and will ask for a bit extra to cover it. but I do agree. its not a form of selling I would ever partake in.