oh and im also slotted with lunge, griffon's wrath,and frontline surge for encounters; cleave and threatening rush for at will; combat superiority and ferocious reaction for passive; villain's menace and terrifying impact for daily. at level 40, is there anything i really need to change? like i had said, maybe crushing surge for cleave?
hey, just around level 40. i had read comments saying that crushing surge is WAY better than cleave, which is more tanky. that true? it has a higher base damage AND heals you on 3rd hit. also how about anvil of doom? i heard that if you know how to use it right, then it is really good. plz reply.
Crushing surge is awful. It's single target with a slightly slower animation and slightly higher damage. The heal does **** all and it's not worth 3 points or any. Anvil of Doom isn't something you should keep on your hotbar. If you want to use it on boss fights you can simply swap it out around 30% health.
oh and im also slotted with lunge, griffon's wrath,and frontline surge for encounters; cleave and threatening rush for at will; combat superiority and ferocious reaction for passive; villain's menace and terrifying impact for daily. at level 40, is there anything i really need to change? like i had said, maybe crushing surge for cleave?
Maybe use Fighter's Recovery instead of Terrifying Impact. I don't really care for that awful animation time.
Congratulations for this nice perspective of Tankers.
I would like to say that its an awesome Power and Feats build, i read everything, tried to modify something here and there, but your build is pretty solid, could not have done better. Moreover, there isnt that much feats (wich I keep calling em as talents, because of WoW) that could improve damage without losing some improvements, if not those you have chosen.
I really hope they add new Paths and Arenas/ Battlegrounds soon.
Is it possible to tank dungeons with this build? I feel some aggro issues on this game, maybe its just the mechanics. Nowdays, a Tank isnt needed for Dungeons, when Rogues can handle the damage easily. Maybe the change it soon, its so fckn wrong.
Keep the good work.
Apologise for my really bad grammar, I hope it is readable.
Congratulations for this nice perspective of Tankers.
I would like to say that its an awesome Power and Feats build, i read everything, tried to modify something here and there, but your build is pretty solid, could not have done better. Moreover, there isnt that much feats (wich I keep calling em as talents, because of WoW) that could improve damage without losing some improvements, if not those you have chosen.
I really hope they add new Paths and Arenas/ Battlegrounds soon.
Is it possible to tank dungeons with this build? I feel some aggro issues on this game, maybe its just the mechanics. Nowdays, a Tank isnt needed for Dungeons, when Rogues can handle the damage easily. Maybe the change it soon, its so fckn wrong.
Keep the good work.
Apologise for my really bad grammar, I hope it is readable.
A new battleground is coming the next few weeks. Paths are in the pipeline but could be a while before we see new ones. You can tank any dungeon with this build although I use the term tank loosely. You can keep aggro with this build, but trash died too fast for that to matter and you can just walk out of boss AoEs.
playing PvE as a level 40, i know that lunging strike and frontline surge are amazing. i dont really feel the greatness of griffon's wrath in PvE. is enforced threat better than griffon's wrath in PvE? how about knight's challenge? threatening rush and cleave are really good i believe. terrifying impact is my main daily, but i want villain's wrath to be replaced with indomitable strength, but im not a high enough level yet
playing PvE as a level 40, i know that lunging strike and frontline surge are amazing. i dont really feel the greatness of griffon's wrath in PvE. is enforced threat better than griffon's wrath in PvE? how about knight's challenge? threatening rush and cleave are really good i believe. terrifying impact is my main daily, but i want villain's wrath to be replaced with indomitable strength, but im not a high enough level yet
PvE trash: Lunging/Enforced/Frontline
PvE boss: Lunging/Kneebreaker/Knight's Challenge - swap kneebreaker for Anvil of Doom ~30%
I personally don't like Terrifying Impact. It has a long cast time and it's outshined by Villian's Menace and Fighter's Recovery. IMO, those two should always be your PvE dailies.
I'd rather not have an immature argument on Envy's guide, if you have something to pick with me feel free to pm me on the forum so I can ignore you there.
I'd rather not have an immature argument on Envy's guide, if you have something to pick with me feel free to pm me on the forum so I can ignore you there.
To be fair, with this being a guardian fighter guide, it would be a service to everyone who reads it if you could share how to obtain such stats. Perhaps include what buffs you have in the picture next time? We're all quite interested.
****E! i accidently messed up some feats because i was following your un-updated guide on a different website, is it going to affect me if i accidently put an extra point into a heroic feat that was supposed to be 2/3, and not one that was supposed to be 1/3? i also accidently wasted 5 whole points in the very 1ST paragon feat at the very TOP which was supposed to be 0/5... :mad:
I'd rather not have an immature argument on Envy's guide, if you have something to pick with me feel free to pm me on the forum so I can ignore you there.
Sanctums got some sort of fixation with trying to be the best and if he sees someone pushing better stats than him he's going to cry abuse. Just ignore the kids and they go away.
****E! i accidently messed up some feats because i was following your un-updated guide on a different website, is it going to affect me if i accidently put an extra point into a heroic feat that was supposed to be 2/3, and not one that was supposed to be 1/3? i also accidently wasted 5 whole points in the very 1ST paragon feat at the very TOP which was supposed to be 0/5... :mad:
Sorry about that. I haven't given permission nor been contacted for my guide being used on any website so I can't be responsible for any outdated information. That older build, while not the most optimized is plenty sufficient to clear all the content currently released with spectacular results.
Power + what?
I'm leveling yet, and feeling stuck by this decision. Every stat seems to be interesting in some point.
Don't prioritize power. It's on **** near any piece of gear though, so it's not like you'll be lacking. The only reason I recommended Reckless Attacker is because it's double power for only 1 paragon point. If it were something like a 5 point feat, I probably wouldn't touch it.
The stats you should focus on depends on the set. IMO, the three big ones are crit, arpen, recovery.
Sanctums got some sort of fixation with trying to be the best and if he sees someone pushing better stats than him he's going to cry abuse. Just ignore the kids and they go away.
Haha, no, I know maiku is doing it legit, I wanna know how he got to 18k power. It's some broken set bonus (from the million that exist) that someone in parties is abusing. On the topic of you, you're an idiot giving false advice.
holy, i think i've ran caverns and spellplague 20+ times now without getting my timeless parts XD
anyway, hey envy
im still using that previous crit set of yours, hitting 2.5-3k per cleave hit when i have temp hp (have greater PF), it's actually quite good given the relative cheapness of that set
anyway when using the timeless hero set, do you still use pow/crit/recov accessories or arpen/crit/recov?
anyway guy on top of me.
i'm using stone, just bec of the icon slot, which will always be better than the belt of cats. Planning of slotting armor pen on it but im not sure yet
I also still have my cat, its full of my recov and crit things
only dif is that i think cats give 225 225 on crit and recov, stone gives 150 150 150 but he can use icons
anyway when using the timeless hero set, do you still use pow/crit/recov accessories or arpen/crit/recov?
If I am not mistaken those accessories have a Defense slot, not an Offense slot. You are better off with the power/critical/recovery ones slotted with Armor Penetration enchants I think.
holy, i think i've ran caverns and spellplague 20+ times now without getting my timeless parts XD
anyway, hey envy
im still using that previous crit set of yours, hitting 2.5-3k per cleave hit when i have temp hp (have greater PF), it's actually quite good given the relative cheapness of that set
anyway when using the timeless hero set, do you still use pow/crit/recov accessories or arpen/crit/recov?
anyway guy on top of me.
i'm using stone, just bec of the icon slot, which will always be better than the belt of cats. Planning of slotting armor pen on it but im not sure yet
I also still have my cat, its full of my recov and crit things
only dif is that i think cats give 225 225 on crit and recov, stone gives 150 150 150 but he can use icons
You won't notice an astronomical leap in power when you change from the mixmatched set to Timeless. Timeless' sole improvement is that it frees up your offense slots for whatever stat of your choosing.
I'm using arpen/crit jewelry.
Ion stone is something like 155 power + crit + recovery where the cat is 225 Recovery + Crit (thats without enchantments or gear)
Envy - What are the major differences between this and the hybrid tank guide? Feat choices?
I haven't checked Rokuthy's latest feat preference but I'm pretty sure our builds are very similar with only differing preferences in gear choice. While he encourages Stalwart, I encourage Timeless. It's up to you.
goodfellasxMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
Hey envy I'm rolling a Human guardian even though I have a dwarf guardian. I just can stand the look of my dwarf guardian LOL. Any advice where to put the 3 extra feats?
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maligkn0Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
hi, im going to hijack your topic a bit envy if you dont mind, i got lvl 20 platesmith and im crafting both pants and shirts for you for the price of 1 dragon egg + materials needed for both, i only have 1 16% quality bellows and a 24% quality bellows at the moment but if you have the mithral 1 i could borrow it and could handle more than 1 request a day. take in consideration the shirt its 500k and the pants are 600k on the AH
thanks
pm at:
maligkno@maligkn0 GF
melicia@maligkn0 TR
edith: i have upgraded to a mithral bellows and now i have a higher chance to get t3 shirts and pants but can only handle 1 item request at a time for the price of a dragon egg each.
So trample the fallen and crushing pin have outweighed a survivability loss of improved vigor? Like how is it a noticable loss of survivability. Im still leveling im at 29
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Crushing surge is awful. It's single target with a slightly slower animation and slightly higher damage. The heal does **** all and it's not worth 3 points or any. Anvil of Doom isn't something you should keep on your hotbar. If you want to use it on boss fights you can simply swap it out around 30% health.
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Maybe use Fighter's Recovery instead of Terrifying Impact. I don't really care for that awful animation time.
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Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide
Youtube Channel
http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
Congratulations for this nice perspective of Tankers.
I would like to say that its an awesome Power and Feats build, i read everything, tried to modify something here and there, but your build is pretty solid, could not have done better. Moreover, there isnt that much feats (wich I keep calling em as talents, because of WoW) that could improve damage without losing some improvements, if not those you have chosen.
I really hope they add new Paths and Arenas/ Battlegrounds soon.
Is it possible to tank dungeons with this build? I feel some aggro issues on this game, maybe its just the mechanics. Nowdays, a Tank isnt needed for Dungeons, when Rogues can handle the damage easily. Maybe the change it soon, its so fckn wrong.
Keep the good work.
Apologise for my really bad grammar, I hope it is readable.
A new battleground is coming the next few weeks. Paths are in the pipeline but could be a while before we see new ones. You can tank any dungeon with this build although I use the term tank loosely. You can keep aggro with this build, but trash died too fast for that to matter and you can just walk out of boss AoEs.
Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer
Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide
Youtube Channel
http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
PvE trash: Lunging/Enforced/Frontline
PvE boss: Lunging/Kneebreaker/Knight's Challenge - swap kneebreaker for Anvil of Doom ~30%
I personally don't like Terrifying Impact. It has a long cast time and it's outshined by Villian's Menace and Fighter's Recovery. IMO, those two should always be your PvE dailies.
Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer
Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide
Youtube Channel
http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
I'd rather not have an immature argument on Envy's guide, if you have something to pick with me feel free to pm me on the forum so I can ignore you there.
Power + what?
I'm leveling yet, and feeling stuck by this decision. Every stat seems to be interesting in some point.
Sanctums got some sort of fixation with trying to be the best and if he sees someone pushing better stats than him he's going to cry abuse. Just ignore the kids and they go away.
Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer
Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide
Youtube Channel
http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
Sorry about that. I haven't given permission nor been contacted for my guide being used on any website so I can't be responsible for any outdated information. That older build, while not the most optimized is plenty sufficient to clear all the content currently released with spectacular results.
Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer
Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide
Youtube Channel
http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
Don't prioritize power. It's on **** near any piece of gear though, so it's not like you'll be lacking. The only reason I recommended Reckless Attacker is because it's double power for only 1 paragon point. If it were something like a 5 point feat, I probably wouldn't touch it.
The stats you should focus on depends on the set. IMO, the three big ones are crit, arpen, recovery.
Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer
Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide
Youtube Channel
http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
Haha, no, I know maiku is doing it legit, I wanna know how he got to 18k power. It's some broken set bonus (from the million that exist) that someone in parties is abusing. On the topic of you, you're an idiot giving false advice.
anyway, hey envy
im still using that previous crit set of yours, hitting 2.5-3k per cleave hit when i have temp hp (have greater PF), it's actually quite good given the relative cheapness of that set
anyway when using the timeless hero set, do you still use pow/crit/recov accessories or arpen/crit/recov?
anyway guy on top of me.
i'm using stone, just bec of the icon slot, which will always be better than the belt of cats. Planning of slotting armor pen on it but im not sure yet
I also still have my cat, its full of my recov and crit things
only dif is that i think cats give 225 225 on crit and recov, stone gives 150 150 150 but he can use icons
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Ion stone is something like 155 power + crit + recovery where the cat is 225 Recovery + Crit (thats without enchantments or gear)
Envy - What are the major differences between this and the hybrid tank guide? Feat choices?
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If I am not mistaken those accessories have a Defense slot, not an Offense slot. You are better off with the power/critical/recovery ones slotted with Armor Penetration enchants I think.
You won't notice an astronomical leap in power when you change from the mixmatched set to Timeless. Timeless' sole improvement is that it frees up your offense slots for whatever stat of your choosing.
I'm using arpen/crit jewelry.
Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer
Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide
Youtube Channel
http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
I haven't checked Rokuthy's latest feat preference but I'm pretty sure our builds are very similar with only differing preferences in gear choice. While he encourages Stalwart, I encourage Timeless. It's up to you.
Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer
Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide
Youtube Channel
http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
Griffeth - GW Fighter - Beholder Shard
Twitch - WoW and NWO Gameplay - YouTube Channel
GF/GWF Gameplay Highlights/Dungeon Runs
thanks
pm at:
maligkno@maligkn0 GF
melicia@maligkn0 TR
edith: i have upgraded to a mithral bellows and now i have a higher chance to get t3 shirts and pants but can only handle 1 item request at a time for the price of a dragon egg each.
I'm here just to thank you for this amazing build! It gave new life to my Guardian
Thanks a lot for your good work!!
Worst GF NA
I've been playing my GWF.
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Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide
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http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
i see
Worst GF NA
Worst GF NA