What a total joke, I will never play on and definitely not pay on any of these servers. Fine don't wipe them, leave them exactly as they are - but start a new server from scratch for those of us that don't want to play in a tainted economy you have no way of fixing. And nothing from these servers should ever be merged or transferred to any others.
Your greed did this to you. You put out a product that is in fact in beta condition but decided to fully release your revenue generation model and now you have a mess you are not willing or able to fix.
You know that we have no ideas what their plans are to fix this atm right?
I'd hold off on any statement about being able to fix it, and 9 hours of downtime does suggest that they are willing doesn't it?
What a total joke, I will never play on and definitely not pay on any of these servers. Fine don't wipe them, leave them exactly as they are - but start a new server from scratch for those of us that don't want to play in a tainted economy you have no way of fixing. And nothing from these servers should ever be merged or transferred to any others.
Your greed did this to you. You put out a product that is in fact in beta condition but decided to fully release your revenue generation model and now you have a mess you are not willing or able to fix.
This is the gospel truth right here.
It's also the reason why there will officially be no wipes under any circumstances--it would necessitate refunds in one form or another, which is lost revenue. PWE really does want its cake and to eat it as well (with our money).
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inu755Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 18Arc User
edited May 2013
I dont get why everyone is so mad this game has some bugs yes and the dev team is trying to fix it, calm ur nips ppl its not there fault if anyone its the plays who stole money from NW and yes this was steeling little boys and girls who know nothing
I think they may be paid overtime, they may be paid a salary.
They may have also planned to spend their Sunday at home with their families.
It's no always black and white.
Unless they own a laptop and work from home and the kiddo's just knocked their coffee on the thing and blasted our entire economy...ban the kiddo's, it's their fault...or maybe get a bigger coffee mug...
Wipe or not, it literally takes 10 hours to get to 60.
Well... Not literally, but probably not more than 24 or so... It's definitely a lot quicker than leveling a WoW toon to 60, and I hear Blizzard has made that extremely easy now.
What a total joke, I will never play on and definitely not pay on any of these servers. Fine don't wipe them, leave them exactly as they are - but start a new server from scratch for those of us that don't want to play in a tainted economy you have no way of fixing. And nothing from these servers should ever be merged or transferred to any others.
Your greed did this to you. You put out a product that is in fact in beta condition but decided to fully release your revenue generation model and now you have a mess you are not willing or able to fix.
that is a point game breaking things will happen all through, But I think now it might be worth thinking about an character wipe and refund for release. you could even give a 2x gold, xp ad for the week of release and those who brought a pack x4 and x6. The idea was stolen shamefully from someone on nwrp.
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mrvincent1959Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 740Arc User
edited May 2013
They prolly spent today formulating a plan. I doubt they called everyone in to work today. They will actually implement it tomorrow, so the game may be down most of tomorrow.....imo.
That $60 you spent is an account unlock. Whatever iteration the game is, your account has those. Any other account unlock is exactly the same so, basically what you're saying is refund all my money, give me free stuff.
what will happen even if they decide to refund you any money, you account gets locked because it has items you then did not pay for. odds are you don't get a refund at all because you received what you paid for.
I dont get why everyone is so mad this game has some bugs yes and the dev team is trying to fix it, calm ur nips ppl its not there fault if anyone its the plays who stole money from NW and yes this was steeling little boys and girls who know nothing
now SHUT THE **** UP AND WAIT FOR THE DEV TEAM TO FIX IT
thank you all ppl who feel the same way i do
lol the company that has it out considers it "live" bro. Look at the game listing page on Perfect World's main page. They have a legend showing what the little icons next to the name mean. Next to neverwinter is a little green L. Means LIVE.
AND, if there won't be any character resets when the game "goes live" for you, then that means the game is live now, for all intents and purposes.
Don't see people getting the keep the progress they make on World of Warcraft beta tests, closed or open. Don't see people getting to keep what they get on the public test realm for new patches either.
"Open Beta" has become a label that gets slapped on games that aren't ready to be released, but the game company higher ups don't want to wait to see profits for another quarter of the year, so they make an "Open Beta" but resets don't happen when the game gets pushed into "Live" or "Release" mode.
With all of the founders I see in the game, and the constant admin messages about people getting Inferno Nightmares, they've made quite a bit of money thus far. Each key costs $1.25. There is no way around this. Yes you can exchange Zen for AD, but that Zen needed to be paid for by someone at some point, so they got that $1.25 for that key. Each nightmare admin message you see is a MINIMUM of one key to obtain (and thats if you got lucky and rolled the 0.1% chance of getting it) otherwise you got 10 trade bars, which you need 2500 of to buy the mount from the vendor, or 250 keys. The only way you can obtain it without them making money is buying it on the AH for AD. and at the millions of AD it costs, not many people are anywhere close to that. The average player has 100k AD or less right now, since they don't understand the easy *** ways to make it. (believe me... its astounding how many people are like "I only made 5k AD leveling up to 60... how do you guys have so much?!" Umm well I read things the game told me instead of clicking it off as fast as I can to get to the next quest or Tutorial Tip.
that is a point game breaking things will happen all through, But I think now it might be worth thinking about an character wipe and refund for release. you could even give a 2x gold, xp ad for the week of release and those who brought a pack x4 and x6. The idea was stolen shamefully from someone on nwrp.
It's ok, they probably won't do it, even though I think my idea is probably one of the best solutions they could have.
That $60 you spent is an account unlock. Whatever iteration the game is, your account has those. Any other account unlock is exactly the same so, basically what you're saying is refund all my money, give me free stuff.
Sorry, but the Guardian pack gave me 3 days of time before the game was open to everyone.
Anything that makes an awkward noise while bellowing out of your rear end, and stinks, is inherently funny. You don't necessarily have to be 12 to appreciate the transcendent humor of flatulence - or the randomness of it's appearance in this thread.
That $60 you spent is an account unlock. Whatever iteration the game is, your account has those. Any other account unlock is exactly the same so, basically what you're saying is refund all my money, give me free stuff.
Umm, well yeah...its a free to play game.
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zingarbageMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
Todays drama has actually renewed my desire to keep playing the game. I was getting kind of bored with it.
Just repeat that list 228 times, and you've pretty much read the entire thread.
Congratulations!
LAWL, so true.
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moshpet02Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 11Arc User
edited May 2013
It's a good thing the people coming out with this 'action plan' are not leading soldiers into battle, or the battle would have been lost 5 hours ago. I swear Cryptic was doing much better before Atari and now PWI.
M.
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ninjakhan3Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 2Arc User
edited May 2013
It's dryly amusing to me that the more information we receive, the farther away the solution seems to be. It's kind of like that concept of by always moving one half the distance to an object you will never actually reach it, but in reverse. On the plus side they are taking their time to address it, on the minus side this actually happened with real money in play.
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Don't Wore, Be happy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs
You know that we have no ideas what their plans are to fix this atm right?
I'd hold off on any statement about being able to fix it, and 9 hours of downtime does suggest that they are willing doesn't it?
It's also the reason why there will officially be no wipes under any circumstances--it would necessitate refunds in one form or another, which is lost revenue. PWE really does want its cake and to eat it as well (with our money).
And as for every one who thinks this is live a present just for you
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0)
now SHUT THE **** UP AND WAIT FOR THE DEV TEAM TO FIX IT
thank you all ppl who feel the same way i do
Unless they own a laptop and work from home and the kiddo's just knocked their coffee on the thing and blasted our entire economy...ban the kiddo's, it's their fault...or maybe get a bigger coffee mug...
Well... Not literally, but probably not more than 24 or so... It's definitely a lot quicker than leveling a WoW toon to 60, and I hear Blizzard has made that extremely easy now.
Could not agree more.
Sitting here LMAO, So so true
Don't Wore, Be happy!
what will happen even if they decide to refund you any money, you account gets locked because it has items you then did not pay for. odds are you don't get a refund at all because you received what you paid for.
Panic. Rage. Confusion. Rage. Rage. Panic. Lecture. Rage. Confusion. Reason. Rage. Rage. Insult. Rage. Panic. Pontificate. Panic. Rage.
Just repeat that list 228 times, and you've pretty much read the entire thread.
Congratulations!
lol the company that has it out considers it "live" bro. Look at the game listing page on Perfect World's main page. They have a legend showing what the little icons next to the name mean. Next to neverwinter is a little green L. Means LIVE.
AND, if there won't be any character resets when the game "goes live" for you, then that means the game is live now, for all intents and purposes.
Don't see people getting the keep the progress they make on World of Warcraft beta tests, closed or open. Don't see people getting to keep what they get on the public test realm for new patches either.
"Open Beta" has become a label that gets slapped on games that aren't ready to be released, but the game company higher ups don't want to wait to see profits for another quarter of the year, so they make an "Open Beta" but resets don't happen when the game gets pushed into "Live" or "Release" mode.
With all of the founders I see in the game, and the constant admin messages about people getting Inferno Nightmares, they've made quite a bit of money thus far. Each key costs $1.25. There is no way around this. Yes you can exchange Zen for AD, but that Zen needed to be paid for by someone at some point, so they got that $1.25 for that key. Each nightmare admin message you see is a MINIMUM of one key to obtain (and thats if you got lucky and rolled the 0.1% chance of getting it) otherwise you got 10 trade bars, which you need 2500 of to buy the mount from the vendor, or 250 keys. The only way you can obtain it without them making money is buying it on the AH for AD. and at the millions of AD it costs, not many people are anywhere close to that. The average player has 100k AD or less right now, since they don't understand the easy *** ways to make it. (believe me... its astounding how many people are like "I only made 5k AD leveling up to 60... how do you guys have so much?!" Umm well I read things the game told me instead of clicking it off as fast as I can to get to the next quest or Tutorial Tip.
It's ok, they probably won't do it, even though I think my idea is probably one of the best solutions they could have.
Sorry, but the Guardian pack gave me 3 days of time before the game was open to everyone.
Anything that makes an awkward noise while bellowing out of your rear end, and stinks, is inherently funny. You don't necessarily have to be 12 to appreciate the transcendent humor of flatulence - or the randomness of it's appearance in this thread.
whats the big deal ? Why are people all bent out of shape.
To dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs
Umm, well yeah...its a free to play game.
LAWL, so true.
M.