REAL MONEY is rolling here man. Not fake, or virtual coin - REAL money. You do know what that is don't you? You *DO* understand that some people work and make gold in REAL LIFE. Real life, you do know what that is don't you? Can you appreciate the difference between a virtual fantasy world and reality?
I don't care what you call it: Beta, open beta, alpha, soft launch, fake launch... call it what you will, but we are NOT playing with fake money here. People have invested real money into this, money they earned by working.
You know what, never mind, asking people like you to think is akin to asking americans to grow the hell up and act like adults. Just move along.
You might be wasting your time here. Either the guy is trying to troll you to get under your skin or he is just a kid stealing his parents credit card and has no idea what it is like to work for money.
I highly doubt there would be a total wipe at all because it places Cryptic in a potential lawsuit situation. Even if they were to grant all zen to those who purchased zen it can still be a potential liability on their part and I think they are aware of this legal issue. Which is why they state they won't do character wipes.
You <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> saying that a "real money" store wouldn't be available in beta releases obviously have never played Marvel Heroes yet.
i hear eso sucks bad my friend told me that races are faction based between 3 factions (breaks es lore) also the fact that each race can only do certain things like a nord can only be good with melee while high elf is only good for mage
a game can be both beta and charge real money for in-game items
welcome to the new model. and if you've spent money, you've supported the new model.
what you decide to call it doesn't matter.
the game is beta. AND you can buy things with real money in the game.
it is both of these things.
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eidalanMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 2Arc User
edited May 2013
I understand that there were supposed to be no character wipes after the 25th of April, however in a situation such as this, I think a wipe is the best course of action. As well as banning all offenders.
Also, I seem to remember there being the word "BETA" under the Neverwinter logo at the Character Select screen.
Look guys, There will not be a wipe. They have said so! Chill the hell out, and just wait. Theyre going to compensate us for the time that could have been spent Improving our stats and getting loot.
They'll be more content probly after game goes live. I'm still waiting to see Training books get released. My cleric is way under powered to heal me at higher lvl zones. I do enjoy this game and I want to keep playing.
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vagrantzeroMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
It's been 2 hours since they said they had a plan to post and no announcement. Someone must have tightened that vice all their balls are being squeezed it.
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superdeluxe75Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 5Arc User
edited May 2013
2 hours ago they announced that they would announce a plan-of-action timeline...
2 hours later, they are still finalizing the post about it... 2 hours to get a post done about it... How many hours do you think they ll need now to actually do the fix they will announce
LOL @ ANYONE who thinks this game is in beta, at this point beta is literally just a word, there will be NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE GAME IS "RELEASED".
Sigh , you sir must be one of the most <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> people alive on this side of the universe ..
It's in a Open Beta since there are major bugs and problems , and yes , there will be a difference between now and when it goes Live , you dumb thundercunt ...
They've said it over 3 times now on twitter. "No, there will be no character wipe between open beta and live launch.", "Characters and accounts will be unchanged between Open Beta and Live.", "No, there will be no character wipe with the Live launch.",
I don't know how much more specific you can get than that.
i dont have a twitter account so you will have to provide links to those posts
You guys keep deluding yourselves, gaming PR guys are experts at NOT saying certain things and only giving out dangling carrots of information such as this. which in turn causes this very conversation to happen on every other MMO beta board in existence and they all end the same way. with full server wipes before live launch. No where in those statements does it specifically say that they will not wipe characters at the end of beta phase.
Oh thank you. More people should read this. It's too bad folks had the mistaken impression that their paying of money somehow manufactured a contract which did not exist. I could start selling magical flying carpets and claim it's a test and it may not work. If anyone pays me and complains to me that it doesn't work, oh well.... I'm still beta testing those carpets. Sorry.
Well my guess is servers will be down until tomorrow. They are waking up the stakeholders, asking them if it's cool to do some sort of roll back and then once ok'd will post that message Then do the fix tomorrow
No, we're all-steam-ahead right now. We've got our plan locked in, we're moving forward on it.
No, trailturtle is still around and posting. He isn't just reading Twitter and responding there. He's also trying to keep up with THIS thread and is responding here occasionally as well. While he's reading and catching up, he isn't posting. Not to mention the times he isn't posting because he's attempting to get more up to date info TO post.
True. I'll be handing it off to dezstravus soon, but I'm online for now. Going between here, Twitter and Facebook, and keeping an eye on emails.
kinkykona: stakeholders are not the same as shareholders. Checking with stakeholders is corporate speak for - making sure all the involved managers agree - note that probably includes Cryptic as well as PWE.
sounds like they are going to do something some are not going to like . "triple checking the planned forum post" why would they need to plan a forum post?
/waits with popcorn to watch for forum post cause this is going to be goooooood
Eh, more just that with this much downtime, whatever we end up saying is going to be very important to a lot of players, so I need sign-off from a couple people.
Sigh , you sir must be one of the most <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> people alive on this side of the universe ..
It's in a Open Beta since there are major bugs and problems , and yes , there will be a difference between now and when it goes Live , you dumb thundercunt ...
Lmao...... There will be major bugs and problems when it goes 'live' too, just like with every other game.....
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voodoofrostMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
Do you want them to post, or to fix the issues with the game? I know my preference.
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You might be wasting your time here. Either the guy is trying to troll you to get under your skin or he is just a kid stealing his parents credit card and has no idea what it is like to work for money.
I highly doubt there would be a total wipe at all because it places Cryptic in a potential lawsuit situation. Even if they were to grant all zen to those who purchased zen it can still be a potential liability on their part and I think they are aware of this legal issue. Which is why they state they won't do character wipes.
If it's anything like they did in Forsaken World the only way you will know the game went "live" is a zen sale & new items in the cash shop. lulz
I have the same fears, having done them every day from the HoTN head start till yesterday. I dont want to loose them because of all this brouhaha.
welcome to the new model. and if you've spent money, you've supported the new model.
what you decide to call it doesn't matter.
the game is beta. AND you can buy things with real money in the game.
it is both of these things.
Also, I seem to remember there being the word "BETA" under the Neverwinter logo at the Character Select screen.
That worked out great for the Champion's Online players.
2 hours later, they are still finalizing the post about it... 2 hours to get a post done about it... How many hours do you think they ll need now to actually do the fix they will announce
Sigh , you sir must be one of the most <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> people alive on this side of the universe ..
It's in a Open Beta since there are major bugs and problems , and yes , there will be a difference between now and when it goes Live , you dumb thundercunt ...
i dont have a twitter account so you will have to provide links to those posts
nice try i know that is the rick roll link k thx bye
he can call it an error all he wants its in print copied youtubed etc... its legally binding now regardless of what he says
welcome to the new model. and if you've spent money, you've supported the new model.
what you decide to call it doesn't matter.
this game is currently open beta. AND you can buy things with real money in the open beta (as you could in the closed beta).
please remember the important point here: if you have spent money in the beta, you are supporting the cash-transactions-within-beta model.
No, we're all-steam-ahead right now. We've got our plan locked in, we're moving forward on it.
True. I'll be handing it off to dezstravus soon, but I'm online for now. Going between here, Twitter and Facebook, and keeping an eye on emails.
Correct.
Eh, more just that with this much downtime, whatever we end up saying is going to be very important to a lot of players, so I need sign-off from a couple people.
Lmao...... There will be major bugs and problems when it goes 'live' too, just like with every other game.....
TR, Beholder Server