I bet there are far fewer brazillians playing this game after the finish making their decision on the decision about the decision.
good. awesome in fact... was hoping the master plan to lower the population of brazilians playing would work! muahaha..
Or response number 2. Who cares but you?
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adomus1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 3Arc User
edited May 2013
I cant help but shake my head at so many of these posts. This is quite simple. People need to remember this is a BETA and BETA's if you have ever been involved in Alpha testing are all about squashing bugs find by a larger audience. People should be fully prepared for Rollbacks and Character wipes for the entire BETA and realize that these issues and downtime only help the people who stick around and play the game once it is live.
So stop you complaining for something that is FREE and not even a final release. You can always WAIT and play when it is release since it is free to play.
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aerokaos69Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
What I don't understand is why anyone would do this. I am aware that hackers and exploiters are bottom feeding slugs but, what can they hope to gain from trying to get ahead in a beta where all of their criminal activity will be wiped once the game goes live? What's the sense in hoarding up AD or anything when all of it will be lost at game launch? Just the anarchy and bragging rights of it?
I will just never understand the twisted and evil minds of hackers and that part of society who try to cheat through life. That isn't living. That's pathetic.
They didn't profit just in game. Many of them sold the AD to gold/AD selling site for thousands of dollars IRL.
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thekurst1Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 2Arc User
edited May 2013
I say wipe em all, between this and the foundry exploit to level characters, it has really effected some different parts on the game. It is in beta, bite the bullet, <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> a few people off, and churn forward. Its free to play, for every angry person you'll have 4 or 5 more try it in a week.
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solresolMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
The internet is full of very bad people that can hide behind keyboards and be the biggest <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> imagineable. Sad fact, but true.
So true!
99% of the rude people on the internetnet would not even think about being that way in person
For those of you complaining, shame on you. Please understand that dev of a beta game is hard work, and this one has done a better job than most on resolving issues quickly during beta. Though I can understand the frustration, imagine how the dev's are feeling right now. Not to mention the original creators of the game who are not making money for every minute it's down.
As far as gathering data, it's not always easy to find the line of code causing an unwanted anomaly (much less resolving the issue on short notice). This is the price you pay for beta testing, beta is all about gathering data. It's time to just be patient, and keep checking back here for updates (or just check server status in the launcher).
To the devs - Is there any chance we could get an hourly, or even bi-hourly update? Possibly with an estimated timeframe? Or even something as simple as "No new information yet, but we're still plugging away at it". I'm sure even the grumpiest of posters would be happier with some information in regular intervals
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sonofmreMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 4Arc User
edited May 2013
Hope! ...hope and waiting....
In the end I may not be remembered, but my actions carry weight.
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solresolMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
The internet is full of very bad people that can hide behind keyboards and be the biggest <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> imagineable. Sad fact, but true.
So true!
99% of the rude people on the internet would not even think about being that way in person
The weekend is really when I get to spend time with my husband and so we play this together. We just killed the final boss in the dungeon that's in Blackdagger Ruins. We tried to do it yesterday but my heals kept aggro the boss and we were the absolute lowest level. We spent yesterday leveling up to 24 or 25 and we beat the boss despite the fact that we lost a player partway through and had to 4-man him. Hoot and holler for victory but before we finished killing the last of the adds, the server went down. I can only assume it's over this stuff.
I had no idea there was an exploit or that the economy broke or any of that.
I spent $40 on Zen and the hubby spent $20 so we could get extra character slots and open our lockboxes. It sucks to admit, but that's actually a lot of money for us to spend on something ultimately unimportant (I mean, it's just a darn game; it's not like it'll keep us fed or provide shelter, ne?). Therefore, I care about that Zen. If it turns out they refund purchased Zen, it'd be nice if they also gave back the lockboxes we opened or at least let us keep what we got out of them.
I don't know enough about programing to understand how difficult or easy all the different ideas are to actually implement, but I do understand that some ideas which seem great are just not feasible.
What I do know is that despite the fact that this game is free, it costs money to make and maintain. IF they don't have the money to keep it going, that's it. No more game. So really, I don't care how they fix the problem as long as the game doesn't go away. We like it very much so far and there's several things about it that I've just never experienced in other MMOs I've played. IF they need to pick the solution that appeases the people who paid for founders packs and bought lots of Zen with their hard-earned money, so be it. If they need to pick a different solution because it's more suitable to the game, then do that.
I will be very, very irritable (the hubby even more so 'cause he's not as laid-back as I am I think) if my $40 of Zen and my hubby's $20 essentially vanishes. I will also be a bit irked if I have to start over entirely because, well, I put a lot of time into the crafting and learning to play different classes.
I'll get over it. The game is just really, really fun and that's even taking into consideration the fact that my computer doesn't run the game nearly as smoothly as my husband's does (I get weird graphics, like stuff jutting out of nowhere and missing scenery, but it's still playable and I just use the Hubby's computer when he's at work).
And I know that the bug or exploit or whatever, it affected a lot of you much more than it effected me because we have different playing styles so I understand that the voices of those people should perhaps be louder than mine.
I just wanna play.
I don't much see the point of arguing here, though. I imagine the developers/etc would like to know how we feel about the issue, but is it honestly realistic to expect them to sort through fifteen million arguments to find those few important posts AND still get the problem solved quickly?
Hell, I probably wouldn't even be commenting at all except that I talk too much anyway and the rest of the house is too hot to do anything else because only the bedroom and computer room AC units work.
Heck if I didn't give the money to Cryptic, it would have gone for cocaine and hookers. Either way, it still will have a Keynesian effect on our national economy. Six for one, half dozen for the other.
gg im off to bed now, i hope they wipe the servers or give us that want a clean server a new server to play on. anyway they are doing a good job with twitter and facrbook, i just hope they know that a lot of us want a clean and fair server, a rollback wont do it only a new server will do it!
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nivasparklesMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
NEW PLAYER LEVELING 1-60 NEED A COUPLE WEEK and hard find AD
AND OLD PLAYER USE EXPLOIT AD MAKE AD 999999999 ,LEVELING WITH FOUNDRY EASY 1-60 ONLY 2-3HOURS, USE BUG SET VALIANT DAMAGE GF 9999999 , EXPLOIT GLORY WITH AFK CHAR , AND MANY MORE BUG ,EXPLOIT , HACKERS
I cant help but shake my head at so many of these posts. This is quite simple. People need to remember this is a BETA and BETA's if you have ever been involved in Alpha testing are all about squashing bugs find by a larger audience. People should be fully prepared for Rollbacks and Character wipes for the entire BETA and realize that these issues and downtime only help the people who stick around and play the game once it is live.
So stop you complaining for something that is FREE and not even a final release. You can always WAIT and play when it is release since it is free to play.
If you're waiting for release, you missed it. Happened about 3 weeks ago, sorry.
cliffwalkerMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 18Arc User
edited May 2013
Thank you, Perfect World Entertainment, for completely destroying every day off I get. Every single time I get any time off to sit and game, I get an hour... mmaaaaybe two, and the servers go down for hours on end. Today, oh lucky me, I got all of 3 WHOLE hours before you guys decide to pull the plug. I really like this game, and I think you have all done an awesome job creating and developing it into a truly top-notch MMORPG, but I'm beginning to think you don't WANT our money... savvy?
Eat your dessert first, for life is uncertain.
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dahlyraMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 7Arc User
What I don't understand is why anyone would do this. I am aware that hackers and exploiters are bottom feeding slugs but, what can they hope to gain from trying to get ahead in a beta where all of their criminal activity will be wiped once the game goes live? What's the sense in hoarding up AD or anything when all of it will be lost at game launch? Just the anarchy and bragging rights of it?
I will just never understand the twisted and evil minds of hackers and that part of society who try to cheat through life. That isn't living. That's pathetic.
First, they aren't going to wipe out our AD or Zen when the game goes full launch. They've actually said several times this will not happen. Second, the big thing behind this bug is that a lot of the people using it were getting massive amounts of AD and then selling it to Farmers. Two people on another site have already claimed to have made at least 6k-8k off of selling their exploited AD. So it was more then anarchy, bragging rights or hoarding.
Leave the AH and Zen market down and block all trades...... now turn the servers on and let us play while you guys figure this mess out. I'm fiending hard over here
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lobotomizeMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 13Arc User
It's 4chan and you haven't seen any of their memes here. They would make your eyes burn
While I agree on your later statement, I know what 4chains is. I say it that way to be hyperbolic/sarcastic/what have you.
All I know is I can't wait for the game to come back online because i'm thoroughly enjoying it. It's a good game, if the kinks in the programming get ironed out appropriately (and they fire/lynch their QA team). Then maybe they'll focus on more pressing manners, like why my cloak keeps getting DEVOURED by the backside of my character, hahahaha
Let me fill you in on ALL the exploits and when we found them.
1 - AH exploit - This is what all the current fuss is about. Too bad it was discovered and reported in closed beta, only to still make it in. Through this exploit one can earn unlimited AD and simply clean out the AD vendors, as well as buy up all the Zen they wanted. I knew about it and reported it on the day that I logged in. My ticket was closed and marked as resolved. Upon reading it further, I noticed that a GM told me the ticket was lost and to resubmit it. I did and kept playing. The second ticket was closed and "lost again". So I gave up reporting it.
2 - Quest sharing exploit - This allowed you to reach level 60 in about an hour of playing. It also allowed people to farm unlimited bags, assets, and materials. It was discovered and reported in closed beta, but still made it in to the open beta. Once again, I made a ticket about it only to have it closed. My follow up ticket was also closed.
3 - Foundry bugs - Were used to gain max level and farm gear. Although I knew about this bug, I did not report it because I thought the other two were more important.
4 - The CW set bonus bug allowing them to hit for millions points of damage. This was a very minor bug, but it still allowed a team of two or more CW's to farm end game content. I did not know about this bug, but plenty of people in my guild did.
5 - The GF set bug - Yet another set bug that allowed the GF to almost instantly kill any mob in the game. A lot more consistent than the CW set bug, and caused a lot of damage to the economy. I knew about this a few days into the game, but decided not to report it since my other tickets kept being closed and "lost".
6 - Chest farming exploits - These are still in the game and allow people to farm easy money, as well as gear and ingredients.
7 - There is already a bot out for Neverwinter that members of Tault Unleashed have been using. Currently it can be made to level or exploit chests. They are working on having it take care of professions and auto pray for you as well.
8 - TR DC bug - this was used mostly in PvP to instantly disconnect anyone the TR targeted with certain abilities. It allowed all TR groups to quickly win matches in the least amount of time possible.
9 - Potion exploit - Basically you can have unlimited healing potions - not much of an exploit since you can accomplish the same thing easier by using any other AD earning exploit and buying potions.
10 - AutoHotkey - Macro software that allows you to easily max your crafting.
11 - AFK PvP groups - creating a few accounts and making an AFK group (managed by AutoHotkey or the Viper bot), you can quickly earn XP and gear while you sleep.
12 - Their support site has not worked since launch. That's right, you can't even request a refund or report bugs through that thing! it gets stuck in an infinite loop after you log in to submit a ticket.
funny - where the **** was this at during closed beta? or alpha? did you post it to reddit then, or after the issues suddenly appeared? i'm going to need evidence of when you found/submitted these things, or i'm not inclined to believe you even played the closed beta weekends. you're some piece of **** trying to get upvotes off of a list you compiled after PWE pissed you off and you decided to wanted to milk the in-game issues people were discovering. way to go - you've got a cult of little ****s who can't pull their heads out of their asses long enough to think for themselves.
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bnotoriousMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 27Arc User
If the servers are not purged upon release, this isn't a beta, its an actual release. Regardless of how the PR is done or what words are being used, the underlying meaning is all that matters. If this is a beta, it will be wiped upon release... otherwise its a sorry excuse for terrible dev planning.
Is this a joke? From what I've heard this exploit has been spread around for more then a week with people constantly reporting it.
Waiting until the weekend to fix it is right away?
yes, and ofc those ppl who assured you they reported this werent benefitting from it at ALL. And so had no reason to actually NOT report it as they told you about and and told you to be sure not to tell anyone!! Ofc! Anyone knows thats what really happened!
They reported it, you reported it.. we all reported it. Sure we did lol.
I cant help but shake my head at so many of these posts. This is quite simple. People need to remember this is a BETA and BETA's if you have ever been involved in Alpha testing are all about squashing bugs find by a larger audience. People should be fully prepared for Rollbacks and Character wipes for the entire BETA and realize that these issues and downtime only help the people who stick around and play the game once it is live.
So stop you complaining for something that is FREE and not even a final release. You can always WAIT and play when it is release since it is free to play.
Exactly, this is beta, then they should do what they did in closed beta...fix exploits, complete wipe, refund NWO zen and AD...After all this is beta. They did it before, why not do it now?
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Is this a joke? From what I've heard this exploit has been spread around for more then a week with people constantly reporting it.
Waiting until the weekend to fix it is right away?
good. awesome in fact... was hoping the master plan to lower the population of brazilians playing would work! muahaha..
Or response number 2. Who cares but you?
So stop you complaining for something that is FREE and not even a final release. You can always WAIT and play when it is release since it is free to play.
They didn't profit just in game. Many of them sold the AD to gold/AD selling site for thousands of dollars IRL.
So true!
99% of the rude people on the internetnet would not even think about being that way in person
As far as gathering data, it's not always easy to find the line of code causing an unwanted anomaly (much less resolving the issue on short notice). This is the price you pay for beta testing, beta is all about gathering data. It's time to just be patient, and keep checking back here for updates (or just check server status in the launcher).
To the devs - Is there any chance we could get an hourly, or even bi-hourly update? Possibly with an estimated timeframe? Or even something as simple as "No new information yet, but we're still plugging away at it". I'm sure even the grumpiest of posters would be happier with some information in regular intervals
So true!
99% of the rude people on the internet would not even think about being that way in person
Heck if I didn't give the money to Cryptic, it would have gone for cocaine and hookers. Either way, it still will have a Keynesian effect on our national economy. Six for one, half dozen for the other.
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?262762-The-current-situation-what-would-want-them-to-do 2000+ vote 60% for a complete wipe!
gg im off to bed now, i hope they wipe the servers or give us that want a clean server a new server to play on. anyway they are doing a good job with twitter and facrbook, i just hope they know that a lot of us want a clean and fair server, a rollback wont do it only a new server will do it!
Thank you for making me laugh. Banning MAC addresses. Oh god I'm dying here.
NEW PLAYER LEVELING 1-60 NEED A COUPLE WEEK and hard find AD
AND OLD PLAYER USE EXPLOIT AD MAKE AD 999999999 ,LEVELING WITH FOUNDRY EASY 1-60 ONLY 2-3HOURS, USE BUG SET VALIANT DAMAGE GF 9999999 , EXPLOIT GLORY WITH AFK CHAR , AND MANY MORE BUG ,EXPLOIT , HACKERS
WTF ARE YOU KIDDING ME HAH
If you're waiting for release, you missed it. Happened about 3 weeks ago, sorry.
First, they aren't going to wipe out our AD or Zen when the game goes full launch. They've actually said several times this will not happen. Second, the big thing behind this bug is that a lot of the people using it were getting massive amounts of AD and then selling it to Farmers. Two people on another site have already claimed to have made at least 6k-8k off of selling their exploited AD. So it was more then anarchy, bragging rights or hoarding.
I bet they used their NAT for it as well. (See about 100 pages back)
While I agree on your later statement, I know what 4chains is. I say it that way to be hyperbolic/sarcastic/what have you.
All I know is I can't wait for the game to come back online because i'm thoroughly enjoying it. It's a good game, if the kinks in the programming get ironed out appropriately (and they fire/lynch their QA team). Then maybe they'll focus on more pressing manners, like why my cloak keeps getting DEVOURED by the backside of my character, hahahaha
funny - where the **** was this at during closed beta? or alpha? did you post it to reddit then, or after the issues suddenly appeared? i'm going to need evidence of when you found/submitted these things, or i'm not inclined to believe you even played the closed beta weekends. you're some piece of **** trying to get upvotes off of a list you compiled after PWE pissed you off and you decided to wanted to milk the in-game issues people were discovering. way to go - you've got a cult of little ****s who can't pull their heads out of their asses long enough to think for themselves.
*****Spoiler*****
It's Spock's voice now
But isn't that how Apple type computers talk on the internet?
yes, and ofc those ppl who assured you they reported this werent benefitting from it at ALL. And so had no reason to actually NOT report it as they told you about and and told you to be sure not to tell anyone!! Ofc! Anyone knows thats what really happened!
They reported it, you reported it.. we all reported it. Sure we did lol.
Exactly, this is beta, then they should do what they did in closed beta...fix exploits, complete wipe, refund NWO zen and AD...After all this is beta. They did it before, why not do it now?