No, she won't be missing memories, she will have memories that never really happened.... Like Marty McFly when his 1985 timeline was altered by his actions. He came back to a world that had changed.
if exploiters make smurf account to exchange items buyed with zen/AD exploited..these accounts cannot be detected as exploiters and got multiple gears in stock..... how to deal with that ?
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damnyankeeMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 9Arc User
So, since I try to RP my character as much as possible, and it's looking like rollback is the word of the day, I'm trying to decide how to incorporate it into my character's story. After all, she's going to be missing "memories" and items, and have to re-do things she's already done.
From a story line perspective, this is all very interesting.
Character development... there is a silver lining to everything!
well, you could say that she had a hard night on the town and woke up with a memory loss
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shadathMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 7Arc User
All those voting for a wipe are not exploiters and cheaters. However, only Cryptic knows their systems, and how it will affect the playerbase. They will pick the solution that affects the fewest honest folk. Sadly many of these cheaters don't play this game for fun, they play for profit. This is who they are going to affect, and no matter how you here them exclaim in this thread and others how they wont be affected, they absolutely will.
This game isnt about the exploiters and cheaters, its about the honest folk. Have you noticed why 90%+ of the posters whining on the forums are not in guilds? Because the great majority of those who actively play together happily, will be playing together happily after this fix, thanks to the NWO employees who are spending their entire Sunday, day and night, getting this game up, the right way.
Cryptic needs to make the honest folks, whether they are in a guild or not, feel like they are pro-actively making this a better place. They are proving their weight in gold, tonight.
I would just like to add a note that not everyone who isn't in a guild isn't in one for that kind of reasoning. That statement made anyone not in a guild sound like a suspect; I just want to add a note here that that's not the case. I am guildless, yet I play the game for fun and do enjoy it.
That said, I do not agree with a wipe either, and I also agree that the polls are corrupted results. For one, it fails to take into account that a vast majority of players read the updates then didn't post on the forums.
So what actually happened anyway some people work like i do and missed what really happened to get to this piont
Despicable underhanded people were exploiting the Auction House to gain an Astronomical Amount of Astral Diamonds. They would place an item up for sale and enter a negative value, usually in the millions, and when the auction closed, they would be refunded the Astral Diamonds. Effectively getting something for nothing and effing up the economy as well.
I agree with a wipe, because the bug astral diamond has gone too far, I see the astral diamond has more than 200 million and banned him even though he had more character than one transaction to a friend and this game is not fun anymore,
I request the GM to think quickly .. The right time to do a wipe, if not I'm sure that playing this game just a hacker
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ironredeMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 8Arc User
edited May 2013
Word. Glad to send them the market signal that says "Bring it!"
So, since I try to RP my character as much as possible, and it's looking like rollback is the word of the day, I'm trying to decide how to incorporate it into my character's story. After all, she's going to be missing "memories" and items, and have to re-do things she's already done.
From a story line perspective, this is all very interesting.
Character development... there is a silver lining to everything!
Roofies...date ****...loss of memory...problem solved.
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jihancritiasMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Buddy .. If you had paid 60k Zen for ($ 600.00) for 4 items and you are not a founder pack owner(your forum title lacking), you either got the Zen from the Exploit or you are an idiot..... either way I hate you ....
Or, you could read the last line in my post instead of being an ***. 60k ad. Feel better?
I don't have guardian title because I don't care about a title on the forums. But, I'll try putting it on so you feel better. My in-game names are Jihan Critias, Strath Thunderstone, and Thom Tumblebelly, on the Mindflayer shard. If you think I exploited, check me out in game when it comes back up. Then you can look like a moron when you see my gear, and one level 60 toon.
TL : DR? Then don't waste my time responding.
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jukejointjezebelMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
I just hope that this is going to fix the havoc wreaked on the game economy. I don't mind a wipe or rollback if necessary, but I hope whatever choice is made actually fixes the issues, rather than slapping a bandage on it.
I do feel sorry for all the people working OT this weekend.
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graniticMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 1Arc User
Boy, I bet the people that paid $200 for the Founders Pack feel kind of stupid!
Not at all. The amount of downtime means that they are working on a more delicate solution, if they were just going to do a full wipe or rollback then the servers would have been up hours ago. I applaud the dev team for taking the time on a weekend to address this issue and to take proper action as soon as they became aware of the exploit.
if exploiters make smurf account to exchange items buyed with zen/AD exploited..these accounts cannot be detected as exploiters and got multiple gears in stock..... how to deal with that ?
Why would it not be detected? Trading logs happen. They trade all the items they have to another character I'm sure they can see it.
Multiple Personas, only 'One' me
"Why should one devolve themselves to try and entertain those of a lesser mindset around them?"
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solresolMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
If it is a roll back and only to save the economy, just do the AD and AH items. I had two toons break 30 over the weekend and crafting with three slots now. It will be a huge mess if they roll back our levels
I remember the doom and gloom in SWTOR when the first day of the Restes place or whatever went live and Imps farmed Rebs and got to max pvp rank/points in a day that had taken many several weeks of BG grinding. Then a few weeks later it did not mater because most of the people caught up and things balanced out again. Just band the people who exploited and put faith in the player base to fix the rest in time. There is no reason a 3 day band is viable unless you can monitor, heavily, the players in question so they do not exploit again. If you do rollback, wipe, etc.. I want drows moved to normal account and given Dragonborn as my HotN Race. ^ ^
I didn't buy one but why? I do hope they end up selling the spider sometime. I'll gladly give 40 for one.
Yeah. I wanted one of those spiders myself. But I didn't care for the other stuff. And no way was I going to pay $200 for just the spider. Would snap it up in a heartbeat at $40. Even if they just sold an unarmored rank 2 version.
I remember the doom and gloom in SWTOR when the first day of the Restes place or whatever went live and Imps farmed Rebs and got to max pvp rank/points in a day that had taken many several weeks of BG grinding. Then a few weeks later it did not mater because most of the people caught up and things balanced out again. Just band the people who exploited and put faith in the player base to fix the rest in time. There is no reason a 3 day band is viable unless you can monitor, heavily, the players in question so they do not exploit again. If you do rollback, wipe, etc.. I want drows moved to normal account and given Dragonborn as my HotN Race. ^ ^
It's OK, not gonna lose your money or legit AD ... they are not gonna wipe ... and besides when they did wipe at end of closed Beta they reset all the AD (founders) and Zen that was purchased at PWE.
It's a beta...comp for money spent = yes; comp for time spent = silly! You are promising your time to help the game progress when playing a beta, knowing that you might find 'bugs' that help the game into the future. In fact, this is the primary purpose of beta testing.
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greymasqueMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
After all, it is "only a beta"... right?
Well, we know it is not. The Beta tag is just a marketing cover to push unfinished product out the door.
Money is changing hands after all so it is Live and For Consumption.
However, a Total Wipe is what this game needs to go forward.
c'mon Chant with me !
Wipe
Wipe
Wipe
By your reasoning, then, the closed betas of pretty much every PWE game was actually Live.
I can't help but think you're a sockpuppet of aeonaheart, with your... "interesting" definition of "open beta." (Hint: open beta has to do with bugtesting, not money.)
Stop attacking the devs, who are doing their best to quickly resolve this with a minimum amount of collateral damage and, instead, take time to appreciate the work they are doing on a game that is still in beta.
These kids refuse to believe that, however. The refuse to acknowledge it is their fault for the exploit going on for so long. The point of a Beta Test is so that the testers REPORT to the devs what is going on. No one did. instead, the greedy kids just said "Hey, there's no server wipe after Beta so I am going to slam this exploit for all it's worth, then if it gets "caught" I will swoop in at the last moment and look like I am one of the people reporting it."
I agree with a wipe, because the bug astral diamond has gone too far, I see the astral diamond has more than 200 million and banned him even though he had more character than one transaction to a friend and this game is not fun anymore,
I request the GM to think quickly .. This is the right time to do a wipe, if not I'm sure that playing this game just a hacker :mad::mad::mad:
I hate how the players who never buy zen and play 100% free think it's appropriate to scold those of us who have paid for them to play the game simply because we are concerned about getting what we paid for.
How about if you are too cheap to pay Perfect World employee salaries you let those of who are paying their salaries commiserate & vent about this issue that concerns us... but doesn't concern you. Mkay?
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levixlushMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 2Arc User
edited May 2013
I was one bar from 58 when the servers went down......here I am....waiting.
Darn you greedy exploiters. I'm a greedy Jew (yes I have Jewish ancestry) when it comes to AH etc but c'mon let's get real, you're ruining the experience for everyone else.
Also it makes me laugh how all the exploiters are saying "gg, bad game, learn to fix your games etc etc" Well, first off it is still in beta, and free to play. Then we have Diablo III on the other hand, which was in development for over a decade and was the biggest let down on Earth, which had it's own AH glitch just a week or so ago, caused by them! That game had had hundreds of millions of dollars poured into it. So let's just take that into account.
missed a part.....
PWE: in light of recent events we will also institute a few class changes..... dmg increase for rogues and CW and nerf for gwf!
and to compensate you for all the f-ups we will add a shiny new mount to zen market for only 5000 zen!
cant nerf the GWF cause then he be the SMF....lol
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siderious133Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 7Arc User
edited May 2013
I have been waiting all day for someone to say exactly this. And I couldn't have said it better, myself.
Amen! Halleloo! Thank you!
And the exploiting scum want to SUE PWE! WTF? I don't want to live on this planet anymore!!
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What is brain Aienbbvfsnb vkshbs........
...does that mean she gets a DeLorean?
well, you could say that she had a hard night on the town and woke up with a memory loss
I would just like to add a note that not everyone who isn't in a guild isn't in one for that kind of reasoning. That statement made anyone not in a guild sound like a suspect; I just want to add a note here that that's not the case. I am guildless, yet I play the game for fun and do enjoy it.
That said, I do not agree with a wipe either, and I also agree that the polls are corrupted results. For one, it fails to take into account that a vast majority of players read the updates then didn't post on the forums.
Despicable underhanded people were exploiting the Auction House to gain an Astronomical Amount of Astral Diamonds. They would place an item up for sale and enter a negative value, usually in the millions, and when the auction closed, they would be refunded the Astral Diamonds. Effectively getting something for nothing and effing up the economy as well.
I request the GM to think quickly .. The right time to do a wipe, if not I'm sure that playing this game just a hacker
Roofies...date ****...loss of memory...problem solved.
Or, you could read the last line in my post instead of being an ***. 60k ad. Feel better?
I don't have guardian title because I don't care about a title on the forums. But, I'll try putting it on so you feel better. My in-game names are Jihan Critias, Strath Thunderstone, and Thom Tumblebelly, on the Mindflayer shard. If you think I exploited, check me out in game when it comes back up. Then you can look like a moron when you see my gear, and one level 60 toon.
I do feel sorry for all the people working OT this weekend.
Not at all. The amount of downtime means that they are working on a more delicate solution, if they were just going to do a full wipe or rollback then the servers would have been up hours ago. I applaud the dev team for taking the time on a weekend to address this issue and to take proper action as soon as they became aware of the exploit.
Why would it not be detected? Trading logs happen. They trade all the items they have to another character I'm sure they can see it.
Multiple Personas, only 'One' me
"Why should one devolve themselves to try and entertain those of a lesser mindset around them?"
Ilum was in SWTOR and Restuss in SWG.
Yeah. I wanted one of those spiders myself. But I didn't care for the other stuff. And no way was I going to pay $200 for just the spider. Would snap it up in a heartbeat at $40. Even if they just sold an unarmored rank 2 version.
Ilum was in SWTOR and Restuss in SWG.
I guess, of all the possible reasons for an itchy downstairs, that would be the most preferable. o.O
By your reasoning, then, the closed betas of pretty much every PWE game was actually Live.
I can't help but think you're a sockpuppet of aeonaheart, with your... "interesting" definition of "open beta." (Hint: open beta has to do with bugtesting, not money.)
These kids refuse to believe that, however. The refuse to acknowledge it is their fault for the exploit going on for so long. The point of a Beta Test is so that the testers REPORT to the devs what is going on. No one did. instead, the greedy kids just said "Hey, there's no server wipe after Beta so I am going to slam this exploit for all it's worth, then if it gets "caught" I will swoop in at the last moment and look like I am one of the people reporting it."
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I request the GM to think quickly .. This is the right time to do a wipe, if not I'm sure that playing this game just a hacker :mad::mad::mad:
How about if you are too cheap to pay Perfect World employee salaries you let those of who are paying their salaries commiserate & vent about this issue that concerns us... but doesn't concern you. Mkay?
Darn you greedy exploiters. I'm a greedy Jew (yes I have Jewish ancestry) when it comes to AH etc but c'mon let's get real, you're ruining the experience for everyone else.
Also it makes me laugh how all the exploiters are saying "gg, bad game, learn to fix your games etc etc" Well, first off it is still in beta, and free to play. Then we have Diablo III on the other hand, which was in development for over a decade and was the biggest let down on Earth, which had it's own AH glitch just a week or so ago, caused by them! That game had had hundreds of millions of dollars poured into it. So let's just take that into account.
cant nerf the GWF cause then he be the SMF....lol
Amen! Halleloo! Thank you!
And the exploiting scum want to SUE PWE! WTF? I don't want to live on this planet anymore!!
LEAVE THE DEVS ALONE!!