aanuunMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 8Arc User
edited May 2013
Regardless of whether you wipe or not, offer refunds, in cash, to all paying customers, for all the amount total that they have paid. That would be a sign of good faith, that you understand the issue and it's impact on the player base and community, and that will have a good number of us back and spending that money again when we know that our investments are at least somewhat secure. I want to believe PWI/Cryptic, please do right by us.
Why are so many people convinced that a wipe is the only solution? That sounds like a knee-jerk reaction. If your arm is mangled by a wild animal do you have to amputate? Possibly, but let the surgeon make that decision, not the butcher. My point is that very few of us are experts in game development, sure some of you likely have degrees in computer science and engineering and know well what needs to be done, but the majority have no concept of software beyond its function. We should let the experts, the guys who built it decide how to fix it. I have faith they are more skilled surgeons than many of you give them credit for. Of course as I write that I think about my rogue tier 2 breastplate that is still lacking a skin and wonder if I am not making the most common mistake I see in society today. Presupposing intelligence.....
i think they will find a way to fix this and also be fair to every one....to the ones that did that for sure i hope ban ip...but i dont think wipe is the solution...so many hours spent for so many people and so many zen from others...i am a free player and i wouldnt like to have it wiped...imagine paying and everything you paid for goes of the cliff....wipe is not the solution...hope they fix it fast and nice......ty for working on it guys
Dont be stupid if you paid money for zen you would get the proper zen back again.
If not this company would have a huge class action lawsuit filed against them pretty quick. Now as for time lost ya that sucks but you cant sue for that.
There may/will be rollbacks of everything? Toon level progress? Crafting progress? Money progress only?
Should I even play at this point? Or will I lose any progress? May? Will? Etc.?
This post could be so much more informative.
HE said rollbacks in Astral shards, not character progress.. just currency wise, LEARN TO READ, ty.
Update 6:35 PM Pacific: We have a plan of action. We're verifying the exact timeline with the Neverwinter team, then we'll be triple-checking the planned forum post with all key stakeholders before posting. We're not finished yet, folks, but we're getting closer.
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IN other words, this is the same info you have been giving us since your 1 hour downtime started 9 hours ago.
Without a rollback the gold farmers will have complete control of the AH and Zen buy/sell market. No one will be able to buy anything without buying millions of AD from Gold farm websites. Zen will become worthless unless you buy only from Zen market at 1$ to 100 zen value. seriously... 10$ for a healthstone?
The best way is the wipe... For all reasons, only exploiters dont want the wipe, the game is realy good and ppl dont care about level up the char again, whit a wipe we rly gona see who are good and bad in this game. Just wipe it!
was gone for the weekend so just herd about this exploit but guess what I don't want a wipe bc I put rl cash into my toon that I will not get back if they wipe
So, since I try to RP my character as much as possible, and it's looking like rollback is the word of the day, I'm trying to decide how to incorporate it into my character's story. After all, she's going to be missing "memories" and items, and have to re-do things she's already done.
From a story line perspective, this is all very interesting.
Character development... there is a silver lining to everything!
Gah, I should never drink Dwarven Ale with real Dwarves...what day is it? where the hell am I? Where is all my loot? Ah <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, another drunken night and mystery trip, at least I am still dressed....although not my own clothes.
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levixlushMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 2Arc User
So, since I try to RP my character as much as possible, and it's looking like rollback is the word of the day, I'm trying to decide how to incorporate it into my character's story. After all, she's going to be missing "memories" and items, and have to re-do things she's already done.
From a story line perspective, this is all very interesting.
Character development... there is a silver lining to everything!
Boy, I bet the people that paid $200 for the Founders Pack feel kind of stupid!
I didn't buy one but why? I do hope they end up selling the spider sometime. I'll gladly give 40 for one.
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onelownMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 2Arc User
edited May 2013
im up for a roll back but i think they need to refund all zen purchased and obtained by founders pack. im find starting over with new toons but something needs to be done. either way please get it up soon
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balmungenMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
I'll take the wipe with arms open as i play since 2 days anyway but i wonder if i should play cleric or continue my rogue
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jihancritiasMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
The best way is the wipe... For all reasons, only exploiters dont want the wipe, the game is realy good and ppl dont care about level up the char again, whit a wipe we rly gona see who are good and bad in this game. Just wipe it!
I haven't exploited once, but I don't want a wipe, unless I get to keep my character levels at least. Gear, stick me with level greens. I want my profession levels also. Saying only exploiters don't want a wipe is pretty idiotic.
The best way is the wipe... For all reasons, only exploiters dont want the wipe, the game is realy good and ppl dont care about level up the char again, whit a wipe we rly gona see who are good and bad in this game. Just wipe it!
Wrong... soooooo wrong. According to this im an exploiter even tho iv only played the game for like 10hours and im lvl 10?
was gone for the weekend so just herd about this exploit but guess what I don't want a wipe bc I put rl cash into my toon that I will not get back if they wipe
If they did decide to do a wipe then all Zen transferred into Neverwinter would be refunded.
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shathrallMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited May 2013
I'm sick of hearing the word "soon"
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onelownMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 2Arc User
edited May 2013
im up for a roll back but i think they need to refund all zen purchased and obtained by founders pack. im fine starting over with new toons but something needs to be done. either way please get it up soon
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ladywillow15Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Gah, I should never drink Dwarven Ale with real Dwarves...what day is it? where the hell am I? Where is all my loot? Ah <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, another drunken night and mystery trip, at least I am still dressed....although not my own clothes.
And why am I so itchy down there...?
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ironredeMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 8Arc User
What a mess this is turning out to be. Justifies my decision on why one never ever puts money into something like this AND also why a game should Never Ever have payments in a beta stage.
Flaws like this is the reason why after the end of beta the servers are actually wiped clean, it is also a set point as to what will happen, but the
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zethrynMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited May 2013
will i be lossing the ad i got from the founders pack i just got the other day cause if so i deserve a refund of my money back
was gone for the weekend so just herd about this exploit but guess what I don't want a wipe bc I put rl cash into my toon that I will not get back if they wipe
If they did decide to do a wipe then all Zen transferred into Neverwinter would be refunded.
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sylphmoreMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 3Arc User
edited May 2013
If there is going to be a wipe and i need to play the whole thing again i hope i get appropriate compensation for my 14 days or more of gameplay and my money spent. Perhaps a 5 days headstart again for the founders, ahead of everyone asking for a full server wipe. Wouldnt want to let the founders lose the 5 days advantage would you? Im perfectly fine with a roll back and some freebies though.
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-gold?
Yes, gold
-Oh, cats you mean.. hehe, how silly of me
Dont be stupid if you paid money for zen you would get the proper zen back again.
If not this company would have a huge class action lawsuit filed against them pretty quick. Now as for time lost ya that sucks but you cant sue for that.
HE said rollbacks in Astral shards, not character progress.. just currency wise, LEARN TO READ, ty.
IN other words, this is the same info you have been giving us since your 1 hour downtime started 9 hours ago.
was gone for the weekend so just herd about this exploit but guess what I don't want a wipe bc I put rl cash into my toon that I will not get back if they wipe
Gah, I should never drink Dwarven Ale with real Dwarves...what day is it? where the hell am I? Where is all my loot? Ah <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, another drunken night and mystery trip, at least I am still dressed....although not my own clothes.
Dedication right there.
Apparently the servers run on shards... this could be a bigger problem than we first anticipated...
I didn't buy one but why? I do hope they end up selling the spider sometime. I'll gladly give 40 for one.
I haven't exploited once, but I don't want a wipe, unless I get to keep my character levels at least. Gear, stick me with level greens. I want my profession levels also. Saying only exploiters don't want a wipe is pretty idiotic.
Wrong... soooooo wrong. According to this im an exploiter even tho iv only played the game for like 10hours and im lvl 10?
If they did decide to do a wipe then all Zen transferred into Neverwinter would be refunded.
And why am I so itchy down there...?
Hey! That's my program, too, only I'm not even tired!
Flaws like this is the reason why after the end of beta the servers are actually wiped clean, it is also a set point as to what will happen, but the
If they did decide to do a wipe then all Zen transferred into Neverwinter would be refunded.