So did Dev team give up and go home? or are they still clueless on how to fix the issue and dont want to admit that it might take days to fix? come on wake up and give us an update on when game will be up and running dont care if its days just tierd of checking forum and trying to log into the game with the same offline result....
When you don't know exactly what the problem is, you have no way of estimating a time to fix it. And even when you do know what the problem is, you still have almost no way of knowing when it's going to be fixed. And if you try to estimate it, you will either be wrong or full of BS. Better to be honest about it and not give an ETA because they'd have no hope in hell of being accurate.
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ellindar1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I think it would be great if you kept the accounts used for this open in good faith...
but make the bids used in these AD transactions absolute values, then reprocess them.
Consider it the same as taking out a loan that is too big.
Not worried at all, are yah?
I'd rather see them leave the money in the market and track down every person who did it, ban their accounts, then send collector's after them for how much $ they actually have transacted. That would be f'ing awesome. Some idiot gets a bill for $30,000. Time someone taught these f'ing idiots a lesson.
This guy even bragged about his punishment. All they gave him was a 72hr ban and he went on to say his hid alot of the purple / AD on his alt lvl 60. Laughed in there face about it and said because they are making us pay money during beta thats why he did it.
HAMSTER made close to $7000 using that hack and showed his guildmates how to do it.
Twitter post from neverwinter just a few minutes ago.......NO WIPES> WIPES ARE OFF THE TABLE.
Neverwinter @NeverwinterGame 5m @DjDazzled Whatever ends up happening, complete wipes are off the table, and we'll work to minimize the impact while fixing the issue.
I have bought Zen (legit, with my own credit card for repecs and keys mostly) I had bought 4 pack of black dye when I was playing my cleric and moved it to my GWF when I deleted the cleric. I sold it said pack today placing it legitly on the AH before all hell broke lose for 350K AD and it was bought
My GWF is almost 44 and I am a foundry creator with one live quest I am tweaking a second quest within the same campaign I just started on and a hack-n-slash quest that is live I am completely redoing to make a story driven quest. All my AD, Zen, Levels, Gear is all legit wiping everything even with zen refund isn't fair to legit player also as I have seen some founder's bring up if they wipe how do u give them there 3-5 day early access back would that mean I would have to wait a week roundabout to play a game I didn't cheat on. I could live with a 24hr rollback where I would have to resell my dye pack and rebuy my respect (with the zen they refunded to me because they rolled back to a time before the legit purchase was made) but a wipe or so ruins things far more than this will ruin the economy in the long term things will even out again and return to normal
I am glad they have stated no wipes and all ppl saying that ones calling for no wipes are being selfish we aren't I love the game and probably sticking around for a while but to say you got there legit but now start over. Yes whatever it is open beta I take care if its closed beta if they say there won't be anymore wipes then do it will look work then this exploit in the long run
Why on earth you would want to cheat in a game is beyond me. I don't mind waiting as long as the issue is resolved. I love this game thus far.
Exactly! The only other thing I'd like to see them do now is add in some sort of a Chat Mod team. Get rid of the constant spam so we can actually follow chat and be a bit more social, as MMO's are supposed to be. Up to this point its nearly impossible to read between the millions of spammed scam websites to buy diamonds astral diamonds n'stuff.
What will this do about the Zen that was purchased with Exploited AD?
Items purchased with Exploited AD and re-sold / traded / given away?
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jim1771Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
If they do shard wide rollbacks I see legal issues headed PWE's way because of people who purchased Zen. They would have tp refund our Zen or it becomes a legal issue.
Well as someone who has bought zen completely legitimately, if they do wipe the server will they refund my money because i bought 50 dollars worth of zen and put it into neverwinter.
If they do shard wide rollbacks I see legal issues headed PWE's way because of people who purchased Zen. They would have tp refund our Zen or it becomes a legal issue.
l2read bro no wipes
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jim1771Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Exactly! The only other thing I'd like to see them do now is add in some sort of a Chat Mod team. Get rid of the constant spam so we can actually follow chat and be a bit more social, as MMO's are supposed to be. Up to this point its nearly impossible to read between the millions of spammed scam websites to buy diamonds astral diamonds n'stuff.
I bet the exploiters are the gold spammers I see in chat and get mail from.
They are not doing any wipes! People, pay attention to Neverwinter's twitter feed, please! There are several rumors going around these forums. Remember, this is the internet! If it isn't Neverwinter saying it then it possibly isn't true! In others, you can ignore me if you want but for all that is holy, check out their Twitter feed!
I'd rather see them leave the money in the market and track down every person who did it, ban their accounts, then send collector's after them for how much $ they actually have transacted. That would be f'ing awesome. Some idiot gets a bill for $30,000. Time someone taught these f'ing idiots a lesson.
I feel bad for people who believe in such fairy tales.
If they do shard wide rollbacks I see legal issues headed PWE's way because of people who purchased Zen. They would have tp refund our Zen or it becomes a legal issue.
They would refund the zen. I don't even think PWE is that dumb.
l2comprehend bro I said rollbacks not wipes two entirely different things.
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yoyoyomMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
pretty much unless they turn and flood the market with Zen itams and create new zen market
the entire economy will be broke seen too many good games go down because of broken eco seems we will ad another to the list
to those complaining about them not doing a wipe you seriously think they are going to leave all the **** that was exploited still in the game and leave it broken ffs get a brain use it and realize that not everyone is as dumb as you
Full wipe teaches exploiters that they can ruin everyone's progress and fun.
they already have. hello friendly neighborhood exploiter, I hope you get to keep the mule accounts you stashed all your goods on and likely exploited on if you were smart enough to preserve your main account also.
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When you don't know exactly what the problem is, you have no way of estimating a time to fix it. And even when you do know what the problem is, you still have almost no way of knowing when it's going to be fixed. And if you try to estimate it, you will either be wrong or full of BS. Better to be honest about it and not give an ETA because they'd have no hope in hell of being accurate.
HAMSTER made close to $7000 using that hack and showed his guildmates how to do it.
Can everyone stop speculating now?
Not sure if you're dumb as a box of rocks or trolling...
Neverwinter @NeverwinterGame 5m
@DjDazzled Whatever ends up happening, complete wipes are off the table, and we'll work to minimize the impact while fixing the issue.
I have bought Zen (legit, with my own credit card for repecs and keys mostly) I had bought 4 pack of black dye when I was playing my cleric and moved it to my GWF when I deleted the cleric. I sold it said pack today placing it legitly on the AH before all hell broke lose for 350K AD and it was bought
My GWF is almost 44 and I am a foundry creator with one live quest I am tweaking a second quest within the same campaign I just started on and a hack-n-slash quest that is live I am completely redoing to make a story driven quest. All my AD, Zen, Levels, Gear is all legit wiping everything even with zen refund isn't fair to legit player also as I have seen some founder's bring up if they wipe how do u give them there 3-5 day early access back would that mean I would have to wait a week roundabout to play a game I didn't cheat on. I could live with a 24hr rollback where I would have to resell my dye pack and rebuy my respect (with the zen they refunded to me because they rolled back to a time before the legit purchase was made) but a wipe or so ruins things far more than this will ruin the economy in the long term things will even out again and return to normal
I am glad they have stated no wipes and all ppl saying that ones calling for no wipes are being selfish we aren't I love the game and probably sticking around for a while but to say you got there legit but now start over. Yes whatever it is open beta I take care if its closed beta if they say there won't be anymore wipes then do it will look work then this exploit in the long run
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Exactly! The only other thing I'd like to see them do now is add in some sort of a Chat Mod team. Get rid of the constant spam so we can actually follow chat and be a bit more social, as MMO's are supposed to be. Up to this point its nearly impossible to read between the millions of spammed scam websites to buy diamonds astral diamonds n'stuff.
Items purchased with Exploited AD and re-sold / traded / given away?
so the cheaters get to keep the stuff, the economy stays borked.....good job guys, well done
l2read bro no wipes
I bet the exploiters are the gold spammers I see in chat and get mail from.
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So you're really that dumb? Who said they were keeping ****? They are going to fix it without wipes. Track down the accounts, ban them, move on.
sigh.
Rollbacks are not wipes. Rollbacks are still an option. They even mentioned it in the first post.
l2comprehend bro I said rollbacks not wipes two entirely different things.
the entire economy will be broke seen too many good games go down because of broken eco seems we will ad another to the list
well, neither.
they already have. hello friendly neighborhood exploiter, I hope you get to keep the mule accounts you stashed all your goods on and likely exploited on if you were smart enough to preserve your main account also.
Farewell remorse; all good to me is lost.
Evil, be thou my good.
I dont know some of these asian companys have some weird policys.