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Envy's DPS Guardian Fighter compendium.

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  • supjeremiahsupjeremiah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 569 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    dman2423 wrote: »
    Just a quick question, in terms of PvE, is the timeless set or Stalwart set better in terms of dps?

    I recommend Timeless. Rokuthy recommends Stalwart. You can complete any content in the game with either. Go with cheapest, probably.
    Envy - 60 Guardian Fighter - Mindflayer

    Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer

    Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide

    Youtube Channel

    http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
  • sammylolsammylol Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just read through your guide, and I've decided I'm going to do a DPS GF. Originally was going to do hybrid, but this seems more fun. Just curious about the stat roll, I was thinking of going Dwarf and going with 18 Str/18 Con/12 Dex. Is this any good? It seems about as good as it'll get for a Dwarf.
  • wrannecwrannec Member Posts: 38
    edited May 2013
    Got a question :

    I've picked up some nice starter gear after i hit lvl 60. But what boots would be best to start off with?

    Your guide is amazing OP. Thanks a lot for all your tips!
  • d15aud15au Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Are you going to update your Power Tree build screenshot with the Knights Challenge build?
  • threaded1threaded1 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Question, does Wrathful Warrior work ONLY when you have temporary hit points or does it act as like a small buff with a timer whenever you gain temporary hit points?

    I mean...if you get crit the chance of the measly 1-5% temporary hit points lasting more than a second when something slaps you again is next to nothing.
  • shadowxakirashadowxakira Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hey evny whats your @handle ?? trying to armory you, you can do it by e.g

    http://gateway.playneverwinter.com/#char(The Corrupted One@corruptionkills)/charactersheet

    gear1_zps2c77a5c6.png

    or http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p373/nova6t9er/gear1_zps2c77a5c6.png for bigger one


    their name + handle and you can view anyones guy/gear

    Thank

    bahhhh the photos being dumb. well u can see i am logged in my account viewing someone else's gear.
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    manipulating request parameters, nice :)
  • diekaodiekao Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    So Crusher Shield is a strong choice, probably best if one values crit (well and before clearing castle never)

    What about weapon though? Currently using a Lizardfolk Scimitar (only 17k AD on Beholder). Is there a better choice later on and where does it drop?
  • supjeremiahsupjeremiah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 569 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    diekao wrote: »
    So Crusher Shield is a strong choice, probably best if one values crit (well and before clearing castle never)

    What about weapon though? Currently using a Lizardfolk Scimitar (only 17k AD on Beholder). Is there a better choice later on and where does it drop?

    I have the Castle Never weapon and I'm still using the Scimitar.
    Envy - 60 Guardian Fighter - Mindflayer

    Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer

    Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide

    Youtube Channel

    http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
  • braemarbraemar Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    maiku217 wrote: »
    Envy has timeless set which requires him to stack crit, I've got 3k crit without stacks and one heal from a cleric would give me 10k power due to feats/build.

    Since maiku isn't answering, would you explain me the last part of this sentence? i didn't find any trait that can give you 10k power when receiving heals.. am i loosing something? the only power boost i've found so far is the one from 4t1 pieces..
  • ceonnynceonnyn Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I have the Castle Never weapon and I'm still using the Scimitar.

    Nice guess they let you keep your stuff then after all.
  • robman1978robman1978 Member Posts: 125 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    ceonnyn wrote: »
    Nice guess they let you keep your stuff then after all.

    Well of course, since that is the best way to teach people not to exploit.
  • supjeremiahsupjeremiah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 569 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    ceonnyn wrote: »
    Nice guess they let you keep your stuff then after all.

    I didn't get anything using the valiant set, sorry to burst your bubble. Oh wait, I got the Shadow Slayer title. **** it I hope they don't take it away!!!
    Envy - 60 Guardian Fighter - Mindflayer

    Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer

    Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide

    Youtube Channel

    http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
  • clacksonclackson Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Thanks for the guide, Envy! Your thoughts were very helpful, and I'm enjoying my own 60 GF immensely in tier 2s and pvp.
  • ceonnynceonnyn Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I didn't get anything using the valiant set, sorry to burst your bubble. Oh wait, I got the Shadow Slayer title. **** it I hope they don't take it away!!!

    Naw, just gear for your buds and stuff to sell on the AH. But anyways, take notice everyone and see how much Cryptic/PWE cares. They don't.
  • sylektasylekta Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    braemar wrote: »
    Since maiku isn't answering, would you explain me the last part of this sentence? i didn't find any trait that can give you 10k power when receiving heals.. am i loosing something? the only power boost i've found so far is the one from 4t1 pieces..

    i answered you in the other thread but will post here
    GF have two feats that give you temp HP, one from getting heals from cleric, the other from taking a crit
    there is another feat that gives you bonus damage when you have temp HP, which is boosted by the final conq feat

    so when a gf with those feats gets healed or is crit, their power spikes
    in maiku's case it must spike to 10k
  • alienfrombeyondalienfrombeyond Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Have you tried grouping with another DPS GF and both of you run Into the Fray so you can stack up the buff from Villain's Menace? Saw a screenshot of a guy with 4 stacks of it at once. Dude was a giant.
  • supjeremiahsupjeremiah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 569 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    ceonnyn wrote: »
    Naw, just gear for your buds and stuff to sell on the AH. But anyways, take notice everyone and see how much Cryptic/PWE cares. They don't.

    Kids gonna be mad, GG.
    Envy - 60 Guardian Fighter - Mindflayer

    Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer

    Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide

    Youtube Channel

    http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
  • maiku217maiku217 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Okay Envy, Roku. I see your builds and I raise you some dps. I don't calculate much, I just READ the skills and go with the flow. This is CN up until 3rd boss but cw had to leave.. (pug) as usual. Dungeon ran today about 4-5 hours ago.

    2UFML.png

    2UFRD.jpg

    2UFRN.jpg

    Build? PvP spec similar to Envy's because he really has a decent guide. Now I say decent is because if you want to kill in pvp, follow.
    I do however have a different play style to you guys mainly because I have 300ms I have somewhat of a lag so I build towards hp which results in power anyway. Try beat. :D
    PS: Those CW/TR have quite nice gear, not going to lie.
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  • supjeremiahsupjeremiah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 569 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    maiku217 wrote: »
    Okay Envy, Reno. I see your builds and I raise you some dps. I don't calculate much, I just READ the skills and go with the flow. This is CN up until 3rd boss but cw had to leave.. (pug) as usual. Dungeon ran today about 4-5 hours ago.

    2UFML.png

    2UFRD.jpg

    2UFRN.jpg

    Build? PvP spec similar to Envy's because he really has a decent guide. Now I say decent is because if you want to kill in pvp, follow.
    I do however have a different play style to you guys mainly because I have 300ms I have somewhat of a lag so I build towards hp which results in power anyway. Try beat. :D
    PS: Those CW/TR have quite nice gear, not going to lie.

    Cant really tell you my CN damage as I only do it when my static would have time for it (not often) and with no particular interest as there's nothing that drops from there that I would want. I'll let you know if it comes up, however.
    Envy - 60 Guardian Fighter - Mindflayer

    Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer

    Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide

    Youtube Channel

    http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
  • supjeremiahsupjeremiah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 569 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Fun with the GF

    New short video up!
    Envy - 60 Guardian Fighter - Mindflayer

    Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer

    Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide

    Youtube Channel

    http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
  • waspinator0waspinator0 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Envy, would you be willing to post your character sheet/stats/items so we can take a look at *exactly* what you're working with as of the "fun with the GF" video?
  • maiku217maiku217 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Cant really tell you my CN damage as I only do it when my static would have time for it (not often) and with no particular interest as there's nothing that drops from there that I would want. I'll let you know if it comes up, however.

    That run was my first time.
    ElfenLiedSig.gif
  • supjeremiahsupjeremiah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 569 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Envy, would you be willing to post your character sheet/stats/items so we can take a look at *exactly* what you're working with as of the "fun with the GF" video?

    Yup! Give me a few.
    Envy - 60 Guardian Fighter - Mindflayer

    Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer

    Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide

    Youtube Channel

    http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
  • supjeremiahsupjeremiah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 569 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
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    Source

    Crit Strike is with the Timeless bonus stacked.
    Envy - 60 Guardian Fighter - Mindflayer

    Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer

    Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide

    Youtube Channel

    http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
  • renokyozumirenokyozumi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
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    My gear So far. Not really playing atm as PVE is pretty boring.
  • trique76trique76 Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hey, Envy,

    First, thanks for this amazing guide. I am following it step by step and along with my experience playing tanks and offtanks I am rocking on NWN with my GF. Reason is that none of the classes were interesting to me so I was almost waiting till they release the paladin, even being a hero founder. But I found the GF really fun and a nice dpser as well much thanks to your guide.

    Now, my questions. I hitted my lvl 28 today. I rolled a human, 18str, 16con. Thing is, I noticed that the extra 3 HEROIC feats are not essential and that you also rolled a non-human. The extra options are ok but not essential to a dps oriented. So I am torn here. I rolled a tiefling guardian now and I find that tieflings are an ok choice for this... Reason:
    +2 con
    + 5% extra damage to all enemies with less than 50% health (trade of with my all time +2% damage bonus from 18str)
    + 10% chance to proc a debuff that lowers power

    So humans have a nice +3% bonus to defense, but all in all dont you think that tiefs are better for a dps guardian?
    And yes, I am a min/maxer. :)
  • supjeremiahsupjeremiah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 569 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    trique76 wrote: »
    Hey, Envy,

    First, thanks for this amazing guide. I am following it step by step and along with my experience playing tanks and offtanks I am rocking on NWN with my GF. Reason is that none of the classes were interesting to me so I was almost waiting till they release the paladin, even being a hero founder. But I found the GF really fun and a nice dpser as well much thanks to your guide.

    Now, my questions. I hitted my lvl 28 today. I rolled a human, 18str, 16con. Thing is, I noticed that the extra 3 HEROIC feats are not essential and that you also rolled a non-human. The extra options are ok but not essential to a dps oriented. So I am torn here. I rolled a tiefling guardian now and I find that tieflings are an ok choice for this... Reason:
    +2 con
    + 5% extra damage to all enemies with less than 50% health (trade of with my all time +2% damage bonus from 18str)
    + 10% chance to proc a debuff that lowers power

    So humans have a nice +3% bonus to defense, but all in all dont you think that tiefs are better for a dps guardian?
    And yes, I am a min/maxer. :)

    Yes I think Tiefling might be the best min max for guardian.
    Envy - 60 Guardian Fighter - Mindflayer

    Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer

    Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide

    Youtube Channel

    http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
  • trique76trique76 Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Yes I think Tiefling might be the best min max for guardian.

    Thanks, I guess I will stick with him then. :)
  • vaichanavaichana Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 91
    edited May 2013
    What about half orcs? They can get bonus to both STR and DEX and have slightly stronger crits. With high enough crit chance the 5% crit severity alone can get close to the 5% extra damage <50 of the tiefling (can't get as good though since we cannot reach 50% crit chance) and depending on how much STR and DEX influence our dps it might give (slightly, obviously) higher dps overall I think?
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