maschinentraumMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 3Arc User
edited May 2013
"However, Neverwinter Heroes of the North will jump to the front of the queue as part of their exclusive."
Lesson learned: never ever buy a founders pack for a f2p game again EXCEPT I'm willing to pay a super high price and ESPECIALLY NOT when it's from Perfectworld/Cryptic.
Buying Guardian package I feel cheated. Headstart was the initial fix and you can't get your stuff now because well.. I was a cheapskate and have to wait with all the non paying tryouters now. I was thinking about buying some Zen. Well, guess what I will do.
P.S.: I know, nobody official will read this, still thank you for this opportunity to channel my rage towards you.
I'm not sure why people are complaining. This seems very typical of the dev process. I hopped in queue around 5500. The queue will jump occasionally to 86000 but then go back to normal.
BS! One thing is to endure the pain, the other is to see how the number 740 transforms into 143202 and this happens like 4 times every time you go below the 1000k!
NEXT Time : Start a KICKSTARTER! just for the Open Beta...
See the thing is it's not a launch, it's an 'Open Beta'.
Big difference.
Open Beta is like a final Stress Test/Bughunt open for the public! You fail here, you fail during the launch (as+suming they plan on keeping the 3 shards only)
0
Options
elenoe8Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
It's just another launch. People want to be able to play when they get home from work, like myself, and not having to queue for over a goddamned hour just to get into a game.. This shouldn't even happen.
Have you learned nothing from all the previous game launches?
oh, have YOU learned nothing from all the previous game launches? :P
0
Options
olszanMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 2Arc User
edited May 2013
amazing... i pay hard money for that game and i can't log in ..... GJ Perfect World ;|
0
Options
chrispybrownMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
I'm guessing the use of queue is a way to test capacity to find the lag choke points.
Now i understand Devs dont want to buy 10000 servers to support launch and then drop to a mere 1k a day and have all that waisted space, but 7 or 8k long ques, even at 12 am mid night pst, is a ludacris.
0
Options
maschinentraumMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 3Arc User
Ok I PAID for a Guardian pack giving me VIP log-in SO.....Why am I in a frigging Queue 1782 ????????
Think we need something sorted here and some comp if this continues.....
Well..guardian pack gave you a VIP 3 day early entry to beta...it however does NOT give you front of the line access like the 200$ pack. You got what you paid for mate.
Yes, the Queue's suck serious taint...but we were all forwarned that this could/would happen. For all of those folks who werent here for any of the beta...well...this is definatly OPEN BETA. Not all classes are in, toons were all just wiped...So while im sorry that a bunch of fools out there paid for the guardian pack and now think they are an entitled bunch of folks...but ya KNOW what ya paid for...you paid for the items and NOW you are just wishing that it had more in it than it did. It DOESNT. Get over it or upgrade.
You folks who paid are no better than the rest of the people tryin to log in cause im sure there are a TON of folks who paid for zen by the truckload but did NOT buy a 200/60$ pack..they paid money too right? So for all you people *****in and complainin that YOU PAID MONEY and that means ya should get in immediatly...well...you paid money for items in a free to play game that isnt even out of beta yet...you deserve any stupidity that falls upon your head...congratulations, you paid for beta.
0
Options
chrispybrownMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
BS! One thing is to endure the pain, the other is to see how the number 740 transforms into 143202 and this happens like 4 times every time you go below the 1000k!
NEXT Time : Start a KICKSTARTER! just for the Open Beta...
Get over it. The big number isn't real queue position. It probably represent full capacity of shard. From the other posts looks like I chose the right shard.
0
Options
citizen441Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 5Arc User
edited May 2013
Maybe you should extend the queue jump to those that paid $60 as well seeing as how your paying customers are being crowded out by non-paying customers. The non-payers will probably not buy zen or anything else, just looking for that next free game they can play to lv20 get tired of and leave and in the end your paying customers will have gotten tired of not playing a game they paid for and also leave.
If you're afraid of pissing off your $200 customers maybe the queue jump could be not to the front of the line but maybe to within 25% of the front. Hook us up with something that matters at least, we helped fund your game before we could even get in it.
Something's really wrong when there's a sizeable queue at 6AM EST. That's more than just a launch rush, that's a server shortage. Also, changing characters puts you in the queue, which is just ridiculous. On top of this, you can't even change servers without first sitting through the queue of whichever one you chose first. People who picked Dragon and are willing to move can't even do so.
0
Options
frost168Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Maybe you should extend the queue jump to those that paid $60 as well seeing as how your paying customers are being crowded out by non-paying customers. The non-payers will probably not buy zen or anything else, just looking for that next free game they can play to lv20 get tired of and leave and in the end your paying customers will have gotten tired of not playing a game they paid for and also leave.
If you're afraid of pissing off your $200 customers maybe the queue jump could be not to the front of the line but maybe to within 25% of the front. Hook us up with something that matters at least, we helped fund your game before we could even get in it.
I spent more than $60 in zen, so do I get to go ahead of the Guardian pack customers ???
I am surprised that a 2013 game is still having a queueing system! even early in the morning it's a 6k+ one who is not moving down fast. Oh and for citizen, it's not because some players don't care about what was offered in the 60$ pack that they won't buy what they want in the store! Don't be hasty to judge.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
0
Options
raize76Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 10Arc User
edited May 2013
I think people seem to be missing the point that this in BETA. I do believe that people that spent money on the $60 probably do warrant skipping ahead in the queue but really the point should be address the queue situation anyway.
3:30 AM PST - Queue: 8950
3:30 AM with that large of a queue, tells me there is something wrong somewhere, i.e. not enough servers that there really should be.
I want to play your game, I want to buy your cash shop stuff if it's fun stuff, I don't / won't sit in a queue of 9,000 people.
Sorry, I hope that your game does well and maybe I'll check back in a few weeks/months to see how it's going, but I'll NEVER sit in a 9,000 person queue, that's just crazy stupid.
With so many other options out there get it right or you lose !
Waiting all day to download then finally install and end up in a queue for an hour ?
No thanks .... goodbye !
You may experience a short queue while starting Neverwinter. This is because we are close to capacity as Neverwinter fans rush to log in and begin their adventure. However, NeverwinterHeroes of the North will jump to the front of the queue as part of their exclusive. Thanks for your patience!
I don't get why everyone is hating on PWE and Cryptic so hard. It's open beta, sit back enjoy the game, if you don't want to wait for a queue go play something else, just means less people in front of those of us that are willing to wait it out, and understand what a BETA test is.
w8ted about 15min and got position 4000 and when i next time looked i was in position 13384... Thats <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>
0
Options
deronius2Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited May 2013
Wow! Jumping from 6k to 16k over and over again is not fun. Perhaps the devs need to be reminded what a queue is.
In computer science, a queue (pron.: /ˈkjuː/ kew) is a particular kind of abstract data type or collection in which the entities in the collection are kept in order and the principal (or only) operations on the collection are the addition of entities to the rear terminal position, known as enqueue, and removal of entities from the front terminal position, known as dequeue. This makes the queue a First-In-First-Out (FIFO) data structure. In a FIFO data structure, the first element added to the queue will be the first one to be removed. This is equivalent to the requirement that once a new element is added, all elements that were added before have to be removed before the new element can be removed. Often a peek or front operation is also implemented, returning the value of the front element without dequeuing it. A queue is an example of a linear data structure, or more abstractly a sequential collection.
Comments
Lesson learned: never ever buy a founders pack for a f2p game again EXCEPT I'm willing to pay a super high price and ESPECIALLY NOT when it's from Perfectworld/Cryptic.
Buying Guardian package I feel cheated. Headstart was the initial fix and you can't get your stuff now because well.. I was a cheapskate and have to wait with all the non paying tryouters now. I was thinking about buying some Zen. Well, guess what I will do.
P.S.: I know, nobody official will read this, still thank you for this opportunity to channel my rage towards you.
BS! One thing is to endure the pain, the other is to see how the number 740 transforms into 143202 and this happens like 4 times every time you go below the 1000k!
NEXT Time : Start a KICKSTARTER! just for the Open Beta...
Open Beta is like a final Stress Test/Bughunt open for the public! You fail here, you fail during the launch (as+suming they plan on keeping the 3 shards only)
oh, have YOU learned nothing from all the previous game launches? :P
spot the error.
Well..guardian pack gave you a VIP 3 day early entry to beta...it however does NOT give you front of the line access like the 200$ pack. You got what you paid for mate.
Yes, the Queue's suck serious taint...but we were all forwarned that this could/would happen. For all of those folks who werent here for any of the beta...well...this is definatly OPEN BETA. Not all classes are in, toons were all just wiped...So while im sorry that a bunch of fools out there paid for the guardian pack and now think they are an entitled bunch of folks...but ya KNOW what ya paid for...you paid for the items and NOW you are just wishing that it had more in it than it did. It DOESNT. Get over it or upgrade.
You folks who paid are no better than the rest of the people tryin to log in cause im sure there are a TON of folks who paid for zen by the truckload but did NOT buy a 200/60$ pack..they paid money too right? So for all you people *****in and complainin that YOU PAID MONEY and that means ya should get in immediatly...well...you paid money for items in a free to play game that isnt even out of beta yet...you deserve any stupidity that falls upon your head...congratulations, you paid for beta.
If you're afraid of pissing off your $200 customers maybe the queue jump could be not to the front of the line but maybe to within 25% of the front. Hook us up with something that matters at least, we helped fund your game before we could even get in it.
I spent more than $60 in zen, so do I get to go ahead of the Guardian pack customers ???
just fair right.
IJS
26h later : i finally can enter the game.
3:30 AM with that large of a queue, tells me there is something wrong somewhere, i.e. not enough servers that there really should be.
I want to play your game, I want to buy your cash shop stuff if it's fun stuff, I don't / won't sit in a queue of 9,000 people.
Sorry, I hope that your game does well and maybe I'll check back in a few weeks/months to see how it's going, but I'll NEVER sit in a 9,000 person queue, that's just crazy stupid.
This is from the HoTN pack REWARD DESCRIPTION.
VIP Game Access
When loads are high, jump to the head of the queue and get priority log-in access. (account unlock)
So yes, its listed as a reward for the 200$ pack
it is NOT however on the Guardians pack. YOU GOT WHAT YOU PAID FOR.
Waiting all day to download then finally install and end up in a queue for an hour ?
No thanks .... goodbye !
I was at about 8950 in the queue, came to post the message up above, went back into the game and now theres a queue of 132202
There's obviously a problem with the system, it doesn't jump by 123,000 people that have the founders pack in a matter of minutes.
So I guess you'll need to fix it.
Checked it again, now it says, 7450
It's obviously broken.
Position in queue 171,768 - you have to be kidding right?