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[Guide] Deities of New Neverwinter - Detailed

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  • valas625valas625 Member Posts: 195 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2013
    gillrmn wrote: »
    ...Elistraee- death was important to save all drow. Now good drow can become dark elves and are not doomed for their fate is in hands of Corellon. So if you are a good drow, lolth can no longer control you - for Elistraee cleverly sacrificed her life to liberate a few good drow (plot hook to let drow roam freely as good - without having to do naked dance in front of open-air fires).

    Actually, good drow can't become dark elves now. They had to either worship Elistraee at the time of her demise, or not have the blood of Wendonai the Balor in them. Which for the latter was only about 10-15% of the drow race population, so not many were made into dark elves. At the end of the book, it even says that in order to save her people, Elistraee sacrificed the souls of those who didn't worship her to save those who did. In other words, drow who didn't worship her at the time will forever be drow. They can still worship other gods (such as Corellon) and not enter Lolths domain, but they can never become dark elves. Which is probably why we won't be seeing them as their own race until D&D Next at least. I'm curious how they'll play that out though. I'm kind of hoping they lean them more towards wizards/priests, since those were the two classes that helped revive their race. Off-point, just thought I'd clear up the dark elf thing there.
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Pink hair? :D
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  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Pink hair? :D

    Where where?

    *can't find the pink hair*
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    *checks and sees they are still gods and not primordials*....

    Are you sure? I thought they were made primordials...
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    Gilrmn is correct, the 4th edition Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide lists the following as the Realms' Five Primordials. I've had them listed as Primordials since it's writing here also in my Grimoire. There is also the Seven Lost Gods stating that some of these lost seven gods, such as Dendar the Night Serpent, Kezef the Chaos Hound, and Borem of the Boiling Mud, may have been primordials.

    The ones that have been Primordials and the Elemental Gods though and remain (exception: Bazim) are:

    • Akadi
    • Bazim-Gorag (he is actually an ascended batrachi to primordial form from old Pandemonium)
    • Grumbar
    • Istishia
    • Kossuth

    The other four have always been the Realm's "Elemental Lords," or neutral primordial gods. Now it's just all official and they have their own category apart from the Gods.
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    zebular wrote: »
    ...

    The ones that have been Primordials and the Elemental Gods though and remain (exception: Bazim) are:

    • Akadi
    • Bazim-Gorag (he is actually an ascended batrachi to primordial form from old Pandemonium)
    • Grumbar
    • Istishia
    • Kossuth
    ...
    Oh! Thats nice knowing all the primordials. I was just suspecting it as they were never mentioned to be in Astral Plane and all gods have to be in Astral Sea.

    Just checked the list on your updated thread. That is a nice list!
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I checked the actual FR campaign guide updated on the D&D Insider site. If they changed it, it is they who need to update it.
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  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I checked the actual FR campaign guide updated on the D&D Insider site. If they changed it, it is they who need to update it.

    Something is not right here. Just opened the FRCG. (Actually I never realized which book had them until you told me)

    Here is what it says on page 81:-
    PRIMORDIALS


    Name

    Alignment

    Gender

    Sphere

    Realm

    Priests

    Adjective



    Akadi

    Unaligned

    female

    Air Sky

    Home

    airwalkers

    Akadian



    Bazim-Gorag

    Chaotic evil

    male

    Chaos

    Pandemonium

    Stone lords of change

    Bazimite



    Grumbar

    Unaligned

    male

    Earth Root

    Hold

    earthwalkers

    Grumbarryn



    Istishia

    Unaligned

    male

    Water

    Cresting Spires

    waterwalkers

    Istishian



    Kossuth

    Unaligned

    male

    Fire

    Undying Pyre

    firewalkers

    Kossuthan


  • bitterwinterbitterwinter Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    So tell me where does Orcus fit in the FR setting? Or does he I'm a bit confused...wish they would release a FR Pantheons book.
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I actually mean the Compendium on D&D Insider which includes any and all erratas for said books.


    Yes this is a mess now.
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  • bitterwinterbitterwinter Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I'm assuming Truth that wasn't in answer to my question ...or was it?
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    However, Orcus was resurrected by Quah-Nomag, one of his foremost high priests and thralls, in a blasphemous ritual he enacted in the Astral Plane. Orcus then reclaimed his kingdom and his original name, re-proclaiming himself Prince of the Undead, despite his hatred of undead. However, as a result of his second death and resurrection, Orcus has lost his divinity and is now a demon lord again.
    According to the fourth edition Monster Manual, Orcus was once a mighty primordial who was corrupted by the evil of the Abyss, reshaping him "into the likeness of pure destructive evil".[28]:52 Long ago, the gods tried to slay Orcus while he was traveling outside the Abyss. Although the gods sent a host of angels to slay him, Orcus killed every last one of them.[28]:223

    Orcus is not considered a god anymore and would fit now as an outside demon power. Technically since 4th ed, Orcus is a major Demon Lord and not a deity like Asmodeus became (again.)
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  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Orcus is not considered a god anymore and would fit now as an outside demon power. Technically since 4th ed, Orcus is a major Demon Lord and not a deity like Asmodeus became (again.)

    As truth said. Also I was not able to find any option for Player Character to worship him.
  • bitterwinterbitterwinter Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Okay so he can still be doing machinations within the realms as Orcus the Prince of Undead (as a demon lord)? So we can use him as Foundry fodder?
  • morbicmorbic Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I'm guessing that would be the path to follow unless Orcus shows up somewhere in canon material and throws your Foundry material into chaos....
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Okay so he can still be doing machinations within the realms as Orcus the Prince of Undead (as a demon lord)? So we can use him as Foundry fodder?


    Oh absolutely! He's been bothering even gods since his "reassignment" to Demon Lord and trying to achieve (or reachieve depending on edition,) godhood since!
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  • adamantium1adamantium1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Tempuran temple of "the Bloodhall" High House of Swords and Banners in the town of Ormpetarr. Ormpetarr still exists after the spellplague.

    The Abby of the Sword another Tempuran Temple exists in Battledale.
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Tempuran temple of "the Bloodhall" High House of Swords and Banners in the town of Ormpetarr. Ormpetarr still exists after the spellplague.

    The Abby of the Sword another Tempuran Temple exists in Battledale.

    Oops! forgot to update it. Updating now.
  • morbicmorbic Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I might have missed but were Avandra, Ioun, or Vecna still around anywhere?
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    morbic wrote: »
    I might have missed but were Avandra, Ioun, or Vecna still around anywhere?

    Those deities do not, never existed in Forgotten realms. They exist in other campaign settings and core setting.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    morbic wrote: »
    I might have missed but were Avandra, Ioun, or Vecna still around anywhere?
    These are Greyhawk/Base D&D deities, not Forgotten Realms gods. They do not exist or have no influence within the Realms' Crystal Sphere. The only Ioun that ever existed in the realms is an Archmage from Netheril who went by the name of Congenio Ioun and was the creator of the Ioun Stones, which at first were known as Congenio's Pebbles.
  • aeternys123aeternys123 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 149 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2013
    Dieties available for players to worship at character creation seem to be -

    Amaunator
    Tempus
    Corellon
    Selune
    Moradin
    Oghma
    Silvanus
    Sune
    Torm
    Kelemvor
    Chauntea
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    Dieties available for players to worship at character creation seem to be -

    Amaunator
    Tempus
    Corellon
    Selune
    Moradin
    Oghma
    Silvanus
    Sune
    Torm
    Kelemvor
    Chauntea
    Just keep in mind, as the game isn't even in Beta yet, this is subject to change.
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    And just for the record, Vecna being a deity of secrets and all, DOES have his body "artifacts" show up in the FR. I can't share details, but there's even a quip about one of his "parts" in game somewhere....
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  • aeroth001aeroth001 Member Posts: 420 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2013
    Dieties available for players to worship at character creation seem to be -

    Amaunator
    Tempus
    Corellon
    Selune
    Moradin
    Oghma
    Silvanus
    Sune
    Torm
    Kelemvor
    Chauntea

    Were are the evil gods ?
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    aeroth001 wrote: »
    Were are the evil gods ?

    I will quote Zebular here:-
    Just keep in mind, as the game isn't even in Beta yet, this is subject to change.
  • aeroth001aeroth001 Member Posts: 420 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2013
    "If I don't cry about it maybe they will forget" - Paranoid Wizard
  • magrynmagryn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    :cool:Magryn here...Hard core - PnP Cleric. Good to finally tune in and see this level of excitement. On a side note...have I missed something in some thread or is it too soon to raise the question of spell lists ????
  • markfalconemarkfalcone Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 4
    edited January 2013
    I know I'm behind in my reading. What ever happened to Finder?
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I know I'm behind in my reading. What ever happened to Finder?

    Check deities in my signature. He lived in gates of the Moon. He is missing though.

    EDIT: oops! Here
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?23281-Deities-of-New-Neverwinter-Detailed/page2&p=373521#post373521

    EDIT2
    didn't realize it was this thread itself :D
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