Hi! I also agree with the others about some of the suspicious attitudes you have, for example, the nerf to the Lostmauth set once almost everyone have it, your late reactions usually, uuh? Of course it need a nerf anyway... not big buffs to the rest of the sets, we need some challenges in dungeons and balance in PvP, and all to be dps/etc gods will not help. Class balance (key word 'balance', not 'destroy a class with a pack of nerfs') is very welcome. We all know OPs bubble, GFs burst dps in PvP and GWFs god-like dps everywhere is ultra annoying and need a fix, so, try to balance the things rather than calling the nerf-hammer tornado! Finally, the overhaul to the leveling process from 60-70 sounds great!! Replacing vigilance quests with directed story content along with a new campaign for Elemental Evil is a "HomeRun"... if you implement it right obviously!, try to don't do it too generic and flavourless. I really doubt it but it would be great to give EE a finishing, like a dungeon or skirmish where you fight the 4 elemental bosses (the HEs and the other things where they appeared wasn't enough, it was horrible and too basic actually). And please, put more energy developing dungeons/skirmishes... the new CN have some few good things (Orcus design is awesome) but the overhaul experience is SO SHALLOW and with LACK OF DUNGEON ATMOSPHERE, just a lineal run from encounter to encounter. Old days dungeons were so great, fun and adventuring to play!! Even KR,LoL and SoT have their good things, but from that point foward... things went to hell! Anyway, good luck with these changes, hoping to see the post mentioned above! See you around people.
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putzboy78Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,950Arc User
to funny, noone is hopefully believing this. For 2 of the last 5 mods was just quests generated in foundry 3 of 5 used recycled maps and content.
Power changes like Into the Fray I hope..!? One power granting up to 80% damage to the entire party....
Way too many buffs in the game.
And that buff is what keeps gfs as viable characters to play in PVE. So nice thinking nerf the only thing keeping those players around. You take away GF buffs and we will replace them with GWF just like module 1 all over again
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mamalion1234Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,415Arc User
I don't get it. Why make a blog/tweet post and a forum thread and not have a single piece of information? How about get your info and facts straight, *then* make a post, a thread/post/update/etc..
Class balance and lostmouth are two very hot topics. Please proceed with care (..for a change).
Edit: to/two
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ghoulz66Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,748Arc User
Power changes like Into the Fray I hope..!? One power granting up to 80% damage to the entire party....
Way too many buffs in the game.
And that buff is what keeps gfs as viable characters to play in PVE. So nice thinking nerf the only thing keeping those players around. You take away GF buffs and we will replace them with GWF just like module 1 all over again
The GF is supposed to be a tank not a buff bot. Nor is the OP tank supposed to be an immortality spellcaster.
If it's true, I can't wait for the Lostmauth's set nerf. No more GWFs doing 1.5-2.0 mil damage haha!
SS CW's didn't really benefit a lot from it (most of the amazing feats do not crit a lot, like Storm Spell, Assailing Force) and it will be a mere 25% damage reduction. Finally.
Also, I find that it is completely unfair that Tenser's disc has all those amazing buffs like +2 DEX, +2 CHA etc. Let's not forget the INT bonuses guys
More INT, More INT, More INT, More INT, More INT, More INT!
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Guess I will be leveling a SW then, because without the lolset, my CW just became a pure support class with a dps spec that does less damage than GF or DC.
My CW has never used the LM set, because I refuse to use a belt with stats that are useless to my class. She is never top dps (if in a competitive group), but she has never scored below any (tanking) GF or DC.
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zekethesinnerMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 805Arc User
Power changes like Into the Fray I hope..!? One power granting up to 80% damage to the entire party....
Way too many buffs in the game.
I cant believe u r on this again, r u saying all i should be able to do is stand and take beating? What is the reason to gear up in that case? I could stand and take beating at 2k il in eCC with arpen bug around. But thats the difference between good and bad player.
Every class has secondary role it can shine on when geared up, just liek 4k gwf can tank almost every content beside orcus or 4k cw outdps every other class maybe side 4k sw
If it's true, I can't wait for the Lostmauth's set nerf. No more GWFs doing 1.5-2.0 mil damage haha!
SS CW's didn't really benefit a lot from it (most of the amazing feats do not crit a lot, like Storm Spell, Assailing Force) and it will be a mere 25% damage reduction. Finally.
Also, I find that it is completely unfair that Tenser's disc has all those amazing buffs like +2 DEX, +2 CHA etc. Let's not forget the INT bonuses guys
More INT, More INT, More INT, More INT, More INT, More INT!
Some1 show this poor, non-defiled with thought soul how much dps LM set is dealing on endgame cw.
U would definitely make use of more INT stat, but also dont forget of about WIS by any means.
(Sin)cerely Kain
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mamalion1234Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,415Arc User
Guess I will be leveling a SW then, because without the lolset, my CW just became a pure support class with a dps spec that does less damage than GF or DC.
My CW has never used the LM set, because I refuse to use a belt with stats that are useless to my class. She is never top dps (if in a competitive group), but she has never scored below any (tanking) GF or DC.
i laughed with this my wizard was always doing more damage than dc-gf when had valindra set and i am master of flame renegade( that means i am not so high damage dealer like the dps tree). i lost 200k on kits and rp to change to lostmauth and lasted 1 month that change its ok. next double rp i will go back to valindra since i kept a belt-amulet for that case.
fabricant coming this comment from you you look like amateur after so many guides you wrote for the control wizard. be real.
Guess I will be leveling a SW then, because without the lolset, my CW just became a pure support class with a dps spec that does less damage than GF or DC.
My CW has never used the LM set, because I refuse to use a belt with stats that are useless to my class. She is never top dps (if in a competitive group), but she has never scored below any (tanking) GF or DC.
You ever looked at any of my speed kill videos? some of them feature dps GFs and dps DCs. They exist. It is not a hyperbole, if a GF or DC specs for DPS they will hit harder than a CW post this change. It is not some made up piece of information, its a fact, I tested with and without the elol set across 60 dungeon runs ages ago to gain some idea. The class with the second lowest dps without the elol set is CW.
Power changes like Into the Fray I hope..!? One power granting up to 80% damage to the entire party....
Way too many buffs in the game.
I cant believe u r on this again, r u saying all i should be able to do is stand and take beating? What is the reason to gear up in that case? I could stand and take beating at 2k il in eCC with arpen bug around. But thats the difference between good and bad player.
Every class has secondary role it can shine on when geared up, just liek 4k gwf can tank almost every content beside orcus or 4k cw outdps every other class maybe side 4k sw
You still defend an 80% damage buff? Nothing overpowered about that? Are you sure...?
A 5/5/5/5 flat damage buff is way more balanced than your BS.
Guess I will be leveling a SW then, because without the lolset, my CW just became a pure support class with a dps spec that does less damage than GF or DC.
My CW has never used the LM set, because I refuse to use a belt with stats that are useless to my class. She is never top dps (if in a competitive group), but she has never scored below any (tanking) GF or DC.
DPS spec'd GF or DC will definitely outdps a CW without the lolset. CW's viability as DPS is entirely dependent on the scope of the nerf to the lolset. Anyone posting otherwise has no idea where the damage their class deals comes from.
Power changes like Into the Fray I hope..!? One power granting up to 80% damage to the entire party....
Way too many buffs in the game.
And that buff is what keeps gfs as viable characters to play in PVE. So nice thinking nerf the only thing keeping those players around. You take away GF buffs and we will replace them with GWF just like module 1 all over again
The GF is supposed to be a tank not a buff bot. Nor is the OP tank supposed to be an immortality spellcaster.
Improve the GF's ability to tank.
You've got a poorly built GF if you can't do both.
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klangeddinMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 882Arc User
The fact is those changes sound too good to be an April's Fool. Generally it's the other way around, you announce something negative to scare off and then say it's a joke. You don't get hopes up and then let down just like that. That would be sadistic. As for Power changes... I suppose I'm ok with them nerfing Into The Fray (if they touch it all), Lunging Strike or Bull Rush, but if they do, then I expect stuff like Iron Warrior, Avalance Rush (? errr the new level 65 power that I forgot the name, not Commander Strike the other one lol) and other sucky powers to be buffed quite a lot. As for Losmouth... this was coming. There has been too much complaining about it, it was an elephant in the room obvious to everyone except ostrichs.
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thefabricantMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 5,248Arc User
Guess I will be leveling a SW then, because without the lolset, my CW just became a pure support class with a dps spec that does less damage than GF or DC.
My CW has never used the LM set, because I refuse to use a belt with stats that are useless to my class. She is never top dps (if in a competitive group), but she has never scored below any (tanking) GF or DC.
i laughed with this my wizard was always doing more damage than dc-gf when had valindra set and i am master of flame renegade( that means i am not so high damage dealer like the dps tree). i lost 200k on kits and rp to change to lostmauth and lasted 1 month that change its ok. next double rp i will go back to valindra since i kept a belt-amulet for that case.
keep laughing mamal, it only shows how little you understand this game.
lazaroth666Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,332Arc User
With these power changes I'm assuming that they will remove certain specific mechanics to some classes and add them to the upcoming class just to make it useful or necessary...
... Are we going to have to redo EE on ALL our toons now for some campaign?
I'll answer this to allay any concerns. Our goal with the EE campaign from the very start was to have it reward players who have made progress in the existing zones, i.e. if you've already completed Spinward Rise, then you'll have completed all the Spinward Rise tasks in the campaign.
We'll have more details to come about how this works.
I cant have acess to preview the next days, if you havent put that equipment obtainable from the vigilances quest as reward in the remade of EE areas could you please do? There are very nice transmutes that we cant have back anymore because they....hum.....went missing.
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ghoulz66Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,748Arc User
You've got a poorly built GF if you can't do both.
I never said anything about my GF's performance. I don't know why you're puking HAMSTER out of your mouth.
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ironzerg79Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,942Arc User
Good. It's been a long time coming.
I know it'll impact CWs a lot, as other people have noted, but I've been a wizard since beta. I've stuck to my orbs for three years now, I'm not about to hang them up because of an impending nerf. For those CWs who haven't abandoned the art for the new flavor of the mod, we'll figure it all out, I'm sure.
I'm actually excited to see what the balance changes actually are...I embrace the changes, for good or for bad. They keep the game interesting to say the least.
Also helps that I play exclusively with people who could care less about DPS, gearscore or paingiver, so whatever the changes are, I'm sure they'll have zero impact on my ability to keep having fun in PvE.
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Class balance (key word 'balance', not 'destroy a class with a pack of nerfs') is very welcome. We all know OPs bubble, GFs burst dps in PvP and GWFs god-like dps everywhere is ultra annoying and need a fix, so, try to balance the things rather than calling the nerf-hammer tornado!
Finally, the overhaul to the leveling process from 60-70 sounds great!! Replacing vigilance quests with directed story content along with a new campaign for Elemental Evil is a "HomeRun"... if you implement it right obviously!, try to don't do it too generic and flavourless. I really doubt it but it would be great to give EE a finishing, like a dungeon or skirmish where you fight the 4 elemental bosses (the HEs and the other things where they appeared wasn't enough, it was horrible and too basic actually). And please, put more energy developing dungeons/skirmishes... the new CN have some few good things (Orcus design is awesome) but the overhaul experience is SO SHALLOW and with LACK OF DUNGEON ATMOSPHERE, just a lineal run from encounter to encounter. Old days dungeons were so great, fun and adventuring to play!! Even KR,LoL and SoT have their good things, but from that point foward... things went to hell!
Anyway, good luck with these changes, hoping to see the post mentioned above! See you around people.
but I will start with ANY change to dps without doing anything to pally bubble will all but put the finishing blow to pvp.
Why make a blog/tweet post and a forum thread and not have a single piece of information?
How about get your info and facts straight, *then* make a post, a thread/post/update/etc..
Class balance and lostmouth are two very hot topics. Please proceed with care (..for a change).
Edit: to/two
Improve the GF's ability to tank.
SS CW's didn't really benefit a lot from it (most of the amazing feats do not crit a lot, like Storm Spell, Assailing Force) and it will be a mere 25% damage reduction. Finally.
Also, I find that it is completely unfair that Tenser's disc has all those amazing buffs like +2 DEX, +2 CHA etc. Let's not forget the INT bonuses guys
More INT,
More INT,
More INT,
More INT,
More INT,
More INT!
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Instead of speculating , I'll just wait changes and always thinking positive
Please only post in English. Thank you.
My CW has never used the LM set, because I refuse to use a belt with stats that are useless to my class. She is never top dps (if in a competitive group), but she has never scored below any (tanking) GF or DC.
Every class has secondary role it can shine on when geared up, just liek 4k gwf can tank almost every content beside orcus or 4k cw outdps every other class maybe side 4k sw Some1 show this poor, non-defiled with thought soul how much dps LM set is dealing on endgame cw.
U would definitely make use of more INT stat, but also dont forget of about WIS by any means.
(Sin)cerely
Kain
i laughed with this my wizard was always doing more damage than dc-gf when had valindra set and i am master of flame renegade( that means i am not so high damage dealer like the dps tree). i lost 200k on kits and rp to change to lostmauth and lasted 1 month that change its ok. next double rp i will go back to valindra since i kept a belt-amulet for that case.
fabricant coming this comment from you you look like amateur after so many guides you wrote for the control wizard. be real.
A 5/5/5/5 flat damage buff is way more balanced than your BS.
As for Power changes... I suppose I'm ok with them nerfing Into The Fray (if they touch it all), Lunging Strike or Bull Rush, but if they do, then I expect stuff like Iron Warrior, Avalance Rush (? errr the new level 65 power that I forgot the name, not Commander Strike the other one lol) and other sucky powers to be buffed quite a lot.
As for Losmouth... this was coming. There has been too much complaining about it, it was an elephant in the room obvious to everyone except ostrichs.
I know it'll impact CWs a lot, as other people have noted, but I've been a wizard since beta. I've stuck to my orbs for three years now, I'm not about to hang them up because of an impending nerf. For those CWs who haven't abandoned the art for the new flavor of the mod, we'll figure it all out, I'm sure.
I'm actually excited to see what the balance changes actually are...I embrace the changes, for good or for bad. They keep the game interesting to say the least.
Also helps that I play exclusively with people who could care less about DPS, gearscore or paingiver, so whatever the changes are, I'm sure they'll have zero impact on my ability to keep having fun in PvE.
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