Update on the Trade Bar Store

gothkid1972 · April 2016

regenerde said:
Well, i was still hoping for another update on the Trade Bar Store... but looks like they just droped the change, and then moved on to the next item on their Dev list.

I just honestly dont think they care...its pretty simple...you want to upgrade your gear:

Wait and pray you get a coal from invoking, and as Ive said...10 characters over the last 6 months and not one coal...yep...

or hey pay that $10...which do you think Perfect Worlds Banking on you doing.....

regenerde · April 2016

gothkid1972 said:

regenerde said:
Well, i was still hoping for another update on the Trade Bar Store... but looks like they just droped the change, and then moved on to the next item on their Dev list.
I just honestly dont think they care...its pretty simple...you want to upgrade your gear:

Wait and pray you get a coal from invoking, and as Ive said...10 characters over the last 6 months and not one coal...yep...

or hey pay that $10...which do you think Perfect Worlds Banking on you doing.....

I'm up for supporting the game with ViP and/or a pack with account-wide stuff in it every now and then.
But i'm not going to throw my money out of the window by buying Wards.
There is too much ups and downs going on these days to pour money into equipment "upgrades"...

hypnoticbeast · April 2016

See I just got 3 pes-wards from 16 boxes. The last time I had 11 box's and got 1 . Now I was going to keep this under my hat. But since there are too many people who don't pay attention to what is in front of there eyes. {freaking millennials}. I read "I had 40 boxes saved and did not get any thing." Now pay attention kids this is called "observation." You get your 11 celestial coins and now we get to PICK one of the three Chests. "But which one?" You ask. Well if you look at your tool tip every now and then you will learn something. Like the the fact that there are 2 lists of what items you could/can get. One has 3/4 list, the next has a 9/9 list the 3rd is a 9/5 list. The second half list is where the Pres-ward and C-ward are. So I wonder what box every one who is saying that they don't give anything from is picking? 3 OF MY PRES-WARDS CAME FROM THE FIRST CHEST. And the one I got before was from a the last Chest. Here is a hint. IT HAS A 3/4 LIST PEOPLE. So why don't we all stop the crying about why the dev's have to make money to keep the game running. And just play the freaking game.

wildfirede · April 2016

if you had read the previous comments you would have known that we are talking about the box with 3. but having 3 or 4 does not play any role if all boxes have 0.1% for a c.ward...... it's just a indication how the other 99.9 % are distributed. and the last box has better total worth couse of greater marks if both have 0.1% of c.wards....

0.1% c.ward
9.9% p.ward
90% else1

vs

0.1% c.ward
9.9% p.ward
45% else
45% else2 (worth more than else1)

regenerde · April 2016

@hypnoticbeast
P. Wards are going to do you no good, if you want to craft/refine something with a 1% chance of success.
And guess what?
You will come across a lot of those 1% chances after a while.

And here is another fun fact here, there're no official plans on improving ViP.
If you don't believe me, look into one of the Devs letter or Q&A, and you will find that information right in there.
Shouldn't they be right on top of improving something, that is bringing them in money?

In short, C. Wards have to return to the TB Store again, bound to account and for ~100 TBs per 1 C. Ward.
Also ViP and DLCs should be improved at the same time, so that they are well worth buying again.
And we're still missing account-wide companion options in the ZEN shop too.

It looks like there're more then enough ways to make money to keep the lights on here.
Which raises the question, why is the managment ignoring those options?

wildfirede · April 2016

Opened another batch of 50 boxes (for people playing a single character for under 2h/day = 550 days playtime), got 12 p.wards 0 c.wards some white/green t.stones and some r4/r5 enchants.

gothkid1972 · April 2016

Honestly something needs to be done about the coals...I know our opinion doesnt mean a damn thing, just PWE's moneez...but seriously, this is total BS...

wildfirede · April 2016

"we’ll monitor the effects of the removal of these items from the Trade Bar Store and plan based on the results we receive."
By Andy (StrumSlinger) Thu 18 Feb 2016

So, after 50+ days, with 37 pages of disapproval and ZAX constantly going up (i have no info if p.ward sales got up). @strumslinger are you planing something based on the results you received?

mythdrannor32 · April 2016

They just want you to buy them. End of story. They dont care about anything else. They know you MUST use them and you WILL buy them.

Dont be surprised if soon they are non-tradeable and Zen only.

regenerde · April 2016

They can't force anyone to buy anything, and customers/players are not an infinite resource.

greywynd · May 2016

wildfirede said:
"we’ll monitor the effects of the removal of these items from the Trade Bar Store and plan based on the results we receive."
By Andy (StrumSlinger) Thu 18 Feb 2016

So, after 50+ days, with 37 pages of disapproval and ZAX constantly going up (i have no info if p.ward sales got up). @strumslinger are you planing something based on the results you received?

Right up there with last Sept's "wards won't be leaving the tradebar store" lie.

wildfirede · May 2016

another month has passed by, has the monitoring brought any insight and eventual changes?

inyawayupdeep · May 2016

Please just eliminate wards entirely and put the success rate at 100%, it's the simplest and best solution. Make this game fun and entertaining again.

regenerde · May 2016

The update is done, and i doubt that we will see anything new in this department, until they decide to remove something else from the Trade Bar Store.

It was the very same with the Leadership update, the change was made, and then nothing... until they came up with another nerf for Leadership. They didn't even take the time to throw in a few simple improvements/corrections for Leadership with that update.

And it looks like the Trade Bar Store Update is working just fine on their end, C. Wards are probably selling good... otherwise we might have seen something new in here at some point.

wildfirede · May 2016

Dusk gloves, boots are coming but nothing for endgame.

And i would accept a "We are happy about the changes that resulted from the removal" if indeed no other update is planned... and if it is how much more monitoring do we have to wait for?

araneax · May 2016

wildfirede said:
Dusk gloves, boots are coming but nothing for endgame.

And i would accept a "We are happy about the changes that resulted from the removal" if indeed no other update is planned... and if it is how much more monitoring do we have to wait for?

I would rather accept a : " NO , We are not happy about the changes that resulted from the removal of the wards, since our sale rate went down "

However, it is wishful thinking on my part.

I am sure they will monitor for a "few" more months, at least 5 more, like they did with " set monitoring " and " RP " monitoring. Fashion monitoring, dungeons monitoring, Elemental evil campg. without campg. monitoring. You know, the usual.

wildfirede · June 2016

2 c.wards from the last 250+ for me.

beckylunatic · June 2016

And I got 2 c.wards yesterday in a stack of about 20, though my drop rates for them were kind of cruddy in the past several hundred.

Pres wards in around 1/4 boxes looks about right.

regenerde · June 2016

Logging through my characters only once per day for a while now, so it's 12 coffers every 11 days, and i haven't seen a single C. Ward for some time now.
A few P. Wards are in every round, and i had some luck with a 1% refine chance going through after 10 P. Wards, but that is not something you can rely on to keep on upgrading your equipment in the long run.

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