why are you wanting linus favors for the off hand ?
then mabey you should know that new lv 70 wepon and off hand are give to everyone as soon as they hit lv 70 bpart of the quest line
why are you wanting linus favors for the off hand ?
then mabey you should know that new lv 70 wepon and off hand are give to everyone as soon as they hit lv 70 bpart of the quest line
i got questions for everyone defending idea of being able to get pvp gear first day u are lvl 70
do u think devs wanted ppl to have new ultimate gear with no grind needed so nothing to do with new mod?
dont u think this is to big advantage in pvp over ppl who might come back in game after some time?and a lot of ppl will come back now since they will have something to do
Also noone ever said no grind needed. LOL. They have to grind right now to get it.
Also for PVP it really doesnt make much difference. Why?
Because the players that have pre-farmed the glory today, are most likely the players that have also saved up or bought EXP boosters AND/OR will out level the general population VERY quickly to get 70 the first day.
Now if they have to go farm for some new currency, or have pre-farmed the glory, whats the difference?
When the casual players get to 70 and THEN need to start farming all their gear, EITHER WAY the players will already have their sets.
Even casual players have thousands of glory already. If anyone has ANY thoughts of PVP next module they are probably already sitting on enough glory, even as a casual, to get the Grim PVP set. So what this does is actually EVENS the playing field since it takes less time for casuals to get tenacity gear.
So what is the big deal? It seems this is just a silly witch hunt for no reason. I think people are just upset because they feel the PVP community is going to do what? Take their PVP gear into PVE? While this might be true, it doesnt affect your PVE in any way.
So it seems all of this is for no reason.
1) Making it cost new currency will end up hurting LVL 70 PVP MORE than making it just cost glory, it gives the players who level up to 70 the first day a massive head start. Keeping it the same in costing glory allows players who are casual to pick up pieces or EVEN farm glory from 61-70 and buy the T2 gear when they hit 70.
2) PVP players have the same access to the same gear that PVE players do and there is BOTH a PVE and PVP way of obtaining this.
This thread is a joke and the actual in game impact of what you are saying will be a complete moot point after about 1 week of release.
But you dont care, your just mad your too lazy to run FC or even GG pvp and save up glory. So instead of trying to do it for yourself, your trying to diminish or ruin the player who ARE putting in the time today.
so all we want is thew same opertuity let us buy lv 70 epics with the seals we have now but if we have to have new seals then so should pvp
Thats missing the point LOL.
PVP =/= PVE.
In PVE you can use ANY gear, obtained through leveling or not. In PVP you MUST use PVP gear because without tenacity you will just die.
So its like comparing apples and oranges.
PVP the GOAL is to kill players, you can do that today.
PVE the GOAL is to complete the new encounters. You cannot do this today.
You actually ALREADY have the same opportunity, you can also farm the PVP gear as well. I see ZERO reason why they should make this require new seals of triumph.
The ONLY thing I will support is doubling all the glory. Just like when you win a PVP game at lvl 20 you get much less glory than at lvl 60, so it should be for lvl 70.
Doubling the glory received, as well as the new glory cap as well as the gear COSTS is the only thing that does make sense, however this wont stop anyone from getting them.
Your entire premise is just flawed, its almost like saying lvl 60 players should not be able to buy epics with glory because someone can level up doing just PVP, hit 60 and have epics on day 1, while the PVE player quests and hits 60 but only has greens and blues. Its the SAME thing we have today, PVP gear is built for PVP purposes. PVE gear isnt.
Your solution would ruin the game.Create zero incentive to play PVE since you would just pre-farm it today with VERY little effort since the encounters are a joke.
However PVP the GOAL ISNT to get the gear, the gear is a means to an end which is beating PLAYERS.
In PVP the GOAL is to get the gear, the end IS the gear. They are NOT the same.
We can talk equal opportunity when I see pvp gear dropping in pvp! You can go days of farming glory and seals to get 1 piece of pvp gear. Equivalent pve gear, can be obtained (RNG aside) in 1 45 minute dungeon run. One could argue that it is possible to obtain a full page set in a fraction of the time it takes to get a full pvp set...maybe by your definition of fair, maybe make everything SEAL based and no more gear drops...
Are you guys even thinking about what you are saying/trying to compare?!
We can talk equal opportunity when I see pvp gear dropping in pvp! You can go days of farming glory and seals to get 1 piece of pvp gear. Equivalent pve gear, can be obtained (RNG aside) in 1 45 minute dungeon run. One could argue that it is possible to obtain a full page set in a fraction of the time it takes to get a full pvp set...maybe by your definition of fair, maybe make everything SEAL based and no more gear drops...
Are you guys even thinking about what you are saying/trying to compare?!
No you don't get it .. none of the PVE GEAR PPL WILL WANT will drop. YOU WILL HAVE TO FARM EFFIN NEW SEALS YOU CAN NOT FARM NOW.
You can farm prefarm resources to buy PVP gear NOW. You can't do same for PVE gear NOW. KAPISH ?!
also pvp is not gear driven it makes no diferance if you are wearing epics or blues so long as everyone is wering the same thing making it even playing field
pve is diffarnt we need the gear just to survive the new dungeons http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?865801-Feedbak-Level-70-Dungeons-Some-are-not-possible
we need our gear to be able to farm our gear
we can not use lv 60 epics or even lv 70 blues to farm our content we need our gesar to be bought with old curancy
also pvp is not gear driven it makes no diferance if you are wearing epics or blues so long as everyone is wering the same thing making it even playing field
pve is diffarnt we need the gear just to survive the new dungeons http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?865801-Feedbak-Level-70-Dungeons-Some-are-not-possible
we need our gear to be able to farm our gear
we can not use lv 60 epics or even lv 70 blues to farm our content we need our gesar to be bought with old curancy
You do realize this is not going to be how hard it is come release. so Chill out.
Also the GOAL of PVE IS GEAR
the GOAL of PVP IS WINING.
They have a different goal. If you were given the ability to pre-farm PVE dungeons why would anyone run them if you had all the gear? Makes no sense.
Anyways this guy is just clueless so please stop responding to this. Its a no win, he is just a whiner and wants free stuff he clearly doesnt care how his suggestions impact the game.
Both of: allowing PVE pre-farm ruins the game as well as creating new seals for PVP gear. AS I mentioned before there is only 1 way to do the PVP gear change and even that is hardly ANY real benefit for the time spent.
Im done with this thread seeing as this guy is flat out an idiot.
Im done with this thread seeing as this guy is flat out an idiot.
Haha, that idiot doesn't even know what people are farming linu's for. I bet he finds redcap powries too OP coz it drains all his AP and he can't protect himself with an icestorm. This game is TOO HARD, I must need to be BiS in PvE.
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then mabey you should know that new lv 70 wepon and off hand are give to everyone as soon as they hit lv 70 bpart of the quest line
The Neck still costs 15 Linu's.
Also noone ever said no grind needed. LOL. They have to grind right now to get it.
Also for PVP it really doesnt make much difference. Why?
Because the players that have pre-farmed the glory today, are most likely the players that have also saved up or bought EXP boosters AND/OR will out level the general population VERY quickly to get 70 the first day.
Now if they have to go farm for some new currency, or have pre-farmed the glory, whats the difference?
When the casual players get to 70 and THEN need to start farming all their gear, EITHER WAY the players will already have their sets.
Even casual players have thousands of glory already. If anyone has ANY thoughts of PVP next module they are probably already sitting on enough glory, even as a casual, to get the Grim PVP set. So what this does is actually EVENS the playing field since it takes less time for casuals to get tenacity gear.
So what is the big deal? It seems this is just a silly witch hunt for no reason. I think people are just upset because they feel the PVP community is going to do what? Take their PVP gear into PVE? While this might be true, it doesnt affect your PVE in any way.
So it seems all of this is for no reason.
1) Making it cost new currency will end up hurting LVL 70 PVP MORE than making it just cost glory, it gives the players who level up to 70 the first day a massive head start. Keeping it the same in costing glory allows players who are casual to pick up pieces or EVEN farm glory from 61-70 and buy the T2 gear when they hit 70.
2) PVP players have the same access to the same gear that PVE players do and there is BOTH a PVE and PVP way of obtaining this.
This thread is a joke and the actual in game impact of what you are saying will be a complete moot point after about 1 week of release.
But you dont care, your just mad your too lazy to run FC or even GG pvp and save up glory. So instead of trying to do it for yourself, your trying to diminish or ruin the player who ARE putting in the time today.
Basically, "if I cant have it, you cant either".
Thats missing the point LOL.
PVP =/= PVE.
In PVE you can use ANY gear, obtained through leveling or not. In PVP you MUST use PVP gear because without tenacity you will just die.
So its like comparing apples and oranges.
PVP the GOAL is to kill players, you can do that today.
PVE the GOAL is to complete the new encounters. You cannot do this today.
You actually ALREADY have the same opportunity, you can also farm the PVP gear as well. I see ZERO reason why they should make this require new seals of triumph.
The ONLY thing I will support is doubling all the glory. Just like when you win a PVP game at lvl 20 you get much less glory than at lvl 60, so it should be for lvl 70.
Doubling the glory received, as well as the new glory cap as well as the gear COSTS is the only thing that does make sense, however this wont stop anyone from getting them.
Your entire premise is just flawed, its almost like saying lvl 60 players should not be able to buy epics with glory because someone can level up doing just PVP, hit 60 and have epics on day 1, while the PVE player quests and hits 60 but only has greens and blues. Its the SAME thing we have today, PVP gear is built for PVP purposes. PVE gear isnt.
Your solution would ruin the game.Create zero incentive to play PVE since you would just pre-farm it today with VERY little effort since the encounters are a joke.
However PVP the GOAL ISNT to get the gear, the gear is a means to an end which is beating PLAYERS.
In PVP the GOAL is to get the gear, the end IS the gear. They are NOT the same.
Are you guys even thinking about what you are saying/trying to compare?!
No you don't get it .. none of the PVE GEAR PPL WILL WANT will drop. YOU WILL HAVE TO FARM EFFIN NEW SEALS YOU CAN NOT FARM NOW.
You can farm prefarm resources to buy PVP gear NOW. You can't do same for PVE gear NOW. KAPISH ?!
PVP gear lvl 70 > PREFARM ? > YES
PVE gear lvl 70 > PREFARM ? > NO
WHAT IS IT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ?
pve is diffarnt we need the gear just to survive the new dungeons
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?865801-Feedbak-Level-70-Dungeons-Some-are-not-possible
we need our gear to be able to farm our gear
we can not use lv 60 epics or even lv 70 blues to farm our content we need our gesar to be bought with old curancy
You do realize this is not going to be how hard it is come release. so Chill out.
Also the GOAL of PVE IS GEAR
the GOAL of PVP IS WINING.
They have a different goal. If you were given the ability to pre-farm PVE dungeons why would anyone run them if you had all the gear? Makes no sense.
Anyways this guy is just clueless so please stop responding to this. Its a no win, he is just a whiner and wants free stuff he clearly doesnt care how his suggestions impact the game.
Both of: allowing PVE pre-farm ruins the game as well as creating new seals for PVP gear. AS I mentioned before there is only 1 way to do the PVP gear change and even that is hardly ANY real benefit for the time spent.
Im done with this thread seeing as this guy is flat out an idiot.
Haha, that idiot doesn't even know what people are farming linu's for. I bet he finds redcap powries too OP coz it drains all his AP and he can't protect himself with an icestorm. This game is TOO HARD, I must need to be BiS in PvE.
Have the gear and skills, but lack the friends to play with? Come and apply for Essence of Aggression. We have been here and strong since beta. (Immature, rude, and arrogant people will not be accepted)