yes but alot of people are only on 2-3 hours a day
that means at least 1 every day, anf you get the triumph even when losing.
said so, its no developer fault.
and as i already said, regardless the time i spend answering to people on forums my playtime is limited too but i aint got probs
oh god....
so now u ill blame it all on that you dont have time to farm it?
LMFAO.
since u started posting in this thread you havent made a single valid point just give up already.
and you are right i havent made 1 single valid point from a pvp point of view but from a pve veiw pooint i have and thats all that matters
And quite honestly, GG is dull. You spend 20 minutes running around on horses, and then getting spawncamped, after which you get maybe 4 GG coins which are worth, what, 200 glory? If I'm going to lose a PVP match to get only 200 glory, then I'd rather do it in a Domination match that takes only 10 minutes rather than a GG match which takes twice as long. And then you run the Fardelver dungeon which is just mind-numbingly easy and stupid. And you have to do that about 300 times to get all the glory to get the PVP gear.
So no I'm not going to do Fardelver's Crypt dungeon 300 times. I do not have the mental ability to stand it for that long.
And so if I have limited daily playtime, I do not feel inspired to waste 1 hour doing this. I would rather do Tiamat or dragon heralds or dailies or something else.
Sometimes you just have to accept reality for what it is and roll with the punches. Which is why you'll see a lot of us in pure pve gear leisurely roasting marshmallows in pvp arenas until the mod hits. Everyone will just be there to farm anyway so who cares about winning.
Sometimes you just have to accept reality for what it is and roll with the punches. Which is why you'll see a lot of us in pure pve gear leisurely roasting marshmallows in pvp arenas until the mod hits. Everyone will just be there to farm anyway so who cares about winning.
I rather agree with this.
You will have 1 or 2 'hardcore' PVP players who will ragequit but eh, if they wanted a 'real' PVP experience they shouldn't be pugging anyway, they should be doing premades.
I once had a PVP Domination match where only about 2 or 3 players actually fought each other. The rest just rode back and forth between the two home bases for the entire match, not killing anything. Maybe it's time that we do more of this.
and that point is why is pvp players alowed to get epic lv 70 gear as son as they hit lv 70 and farm pve for boe gear when pve players can not
Why can't they ffs??? WHYYYY??? You limited yourself from the content because you don't wanna play it and you complain that you don't wanna play the content? "I don't wanna study, pls, disable all knowledge people have gained, because they are smarter then me."
M6 almost drains your soul given how boring it is. (c) joocycuzzzzzz
Why can't they ffs??? WHYYYY??? You limited yourself from the content because you don't wanna play it and you complain that you don't wanna play the content? "I don't wanna study, pls, disable all knowledge people have gained, because they are smarter then me."
spoken like a pvp player
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ironzerg79Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,942Arc User
edited March 2015
Personally I'm glad I can't "pre-farm" my PvE gear...hopefully that will at least keep me busy for a bit.
Who wants to be "done" with content on day 1? You're going to have months to farm the PvE content. What's the rush?
we cant we only get epics by
1 farming dungeons this requires us to be able to farm lv 70 epic dungeons but that will not be posibale with lv 60 gear
2 crafting for this we need items we get from lv 70 epic dungeons that we cant do till we get the gear als we will have to raise crafting
3 buying gear this we cant the seals for this only drop in lv 70 epic dungeons
so no mater how you look at pve players are at a huge disadvantge pvp people WILL farm epics to get boe gear to sell but the pve people will not be able to farm for there own gear for at least a month
silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
edited March 2015
I cant believe this thread is allowed to troll onwards..
the concern was expressed, can we not kill it. There is no advantage given, since ANYONE can get this armour, if they want to. Its not gated by some super elite credit card club.
u just won the internet pvp players ill farm pve!!!!
rofl.
You do realize, back in the day, PVP players DID farm Castle Never and other PVE dungeons in order to get loot to sell to gear up for PVP, right? Right? Oh no wait you've only been around a few months now.
You do realize, back in the day, PVP players DID farm Castle Never and other PVE dungeons in order to get loot to sell to gear up for PVP, right? Right? Oh no wait you've only been around a few months now.
and pvp players still run pve content all the time
we cant we only get epics by
1 farming dungeons this requires us to be able to farm lv 70 epic dungeons but that will not be posibale with lv 60 gear
2 crafting for this we need items we get from lv 70 epic dungeons that we cant do till we get the gear als we will have to raise crafting
3 buying gear this we cant the seals for this only drop in lv 70 epic dungeons
so no mater how you look at pve players are at a huge disadvantge pvp people WILL farm epics to get boe gear to sell but the pve people will not be able to farm for there own gear for at least a month
As many have said, there is no gate stopping anyone from farming to get pvp gear in which to farm pve content. To say that people who have this gear will profit, because there is no way to complete the content without this gear.... Well, it seems you would have your answer. Farm the glory and GG coins as well, so you can be the one to benefit from being prepared.
Anyone able to complete this content and sell BoE gear is only helping. If someone can't complete the content because of gear, then their problem is now solved. Someone who worked hard to earn their gear shouldn't be scorned because they decided to be prepared for the next module. No one locked the AH to prevent people from buying terror enchants and shards, and Fardelver's Crypt is open to anyone who feels like farming glory via GG coins. To say "PVErs are at a huge disadvantage" is to make yourself a victim, when you just don't want to do the content you need to do to have the same opportunity.
I guarantee that if the roles were reversed, you all would be singing a different tune.
This entire discussion boils down to PVPers attempting to defend their indefensible and unjustified advantage in the new mod. That is all it is. The rest is just self-interested rationalizations. The members of the forum PVP tribe are circling the wagons.
OF COURSE PVErs are at a huge disadvantage with PVP gear being the only pre-farmable gear set. I'm willing to bet most of you already had 50k glory and tons of GG coins even before the new sets were announced. How many PVE players had that?
So I am supposed to just shut up and take it if I'm not willing to run Fardelver's Crypt *three hundred times* between now and mod6 in order to get my PVP gear (as well as, somehow, get the triumph seals)? Suppose the new pre-farmable gear was only purchaseable with, say, Sharandar currency. If you complained about having to do 300 stupid boring dull brainless time-wasting PVE Sharandar dailies in order to get gear - FOR PVP - and I said "oh just shut up and stop making yourself a victim", would you really respond by saying "oh gee he has a point, guess I'd better go back to killing Redcaps"? Umm, no. You'd be screaming bloody murder and rightly so.
MY solution is to make a PVE set ALSO pre-farmable by removing the Unified Elements requirement for upgrading the Black Ice gear in the BI profession, and to modify the upgraded BI gear to make it a lvl 70 pure PVE set by removing the tenacity and buffing the stats a bit to make it about equivalent to the PVP set. It would still require players to prepare ahead of time to pre-farm 50k in Black Ice, and to pre-farm the BI gear if they don't already have it. Which are non-trivial tasks. But at least it's POSSIBLE to do by doing ONLY PVE and by never setting foot in your PVP matches and ruining them.
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1x/week ??? maan is an event every 3 hours
really ?
that means at least 1 every day, anf you get the triumph even when losing.
said so, its no developer fault.
and as i already said, regardless the time i spend answering to people on forums my playtime is limited too but i aint got probs
edit: gaunt is running now :P
and you are right i havent made 1 single valid point from a pvp point of view but from a pve veiw pooint i have and thats all that matters
So no I'm not going to do Fardelver's Crypt dungeon 300 times. I do not have the mental ability to stand it for that long.
And so if I have limited daily playtime, I do not feel inspired to waste 1 hour doing this. I would rather do Tiamat or dragon heralds or dailies or something else.
I rather agree with this.
You will have 1 or 2 'hardcore' PVP players who will ragequit but eh, if they wanted a 'real' PVP experience they shouldn't be pugging anyway, they should be doing premades.
I once had a PVP Domination match where only about 2 or 3 players actually fought each other. The rest just rode back and forth between the two home bases for the entire match, not killing anything. Maybe it's time that we do more of this.
all the new gear is level 70.
meanwhile "PVE" players (actually anyone) can get Elemental at level 61 which boosts HP by about 2x
and that point is why is pvp players alowed to get epic lv 70 gear as son as they hit lv 70 and farm pve for boe gear when pve players can not
Why can't they ffs??? WHYYYY??? You limited yourself from the content because you don't wanna play it and you complain that you don't wanna play the content? "I don't wanna study, pls, disable all knowledge people have gained, because they are smarter then me."
spoken like a pvp player
Who wants to be "done" with content on day 1? You're going to have months to farm the PvE content. What's the rush?
1 farming dungeons this requires us to be able to farm lv 70 epic dungeons but that will not be posibale with lv 60 gear
2 crafting for this we need items we get from lv 70 epic dungeons that we cant do till we get the gear als we will have to raise crafting
3 buying gear this we cant the seals for this only drop in lv 70 epic dungeons
so no mater how you look at pve players are at a huge disadvantge pvp people WILL farm epics to get boe gear to sell but the pve people will not be able to farm for there own gear for at least a month
the concern was expressed, can we not kill it. There is no advantage given, since ANYONE can get this armour, if they want to. Its not gated by some super elite credit card club.
IF you dont want to then, DONT, stop complaining.
... of all the ridiculous things ive seen ..
You do realize, back in the day, PVP players DID farm Castle Never and other PVE dungeons in order to get loot to sell to gear up for PVP, right? Right? Oh no wait you've only been around a few months now.
Some CW posted "CWs arent that tanky look at this SS" I posted the GWF damage logs showing CW having MUCH MUHC higher "net DR" than GWF.
Guess what - was REMOVED from the thread.
Dont say anything against CW or it gets taken down.
and pvp players still run pve content all the time
As many have said, there is no gate stopping anyone from farming to get pvp gear in which to farm pve content. To say that people who have this gear will profit, because there is no way to complete the content without this gear.... Well, it seems you would have your answer. Farm the glory and GG coins as well, so you can be the one to benefit from being prepared.
Anyone able to complete this content and sell BoE gear is only helping. If someone can't complete the content because of gear, then their problem is now solved. Someone who worked hard to earn their gear shouldn't be scorned because they decided to be prepared for the next module. No one locked the AH to prevent people from buying terror enchants and shards, and Fardelver's Crypt is open to anyone who feels like farming glory via GG coins. To say "PVErs are at a huge disadvantage" is to make yourself a victim, when you just don't want to do the content you need to do to have the same opportunity.
This entire discussion boils down to PVPers attempting to defend their indefensible and unjustified advantage in the new mod. That is all it is. The rest is just self-interested rationalizations. The members of the forum PVP tribe are circling the wagons.
OF COURSE PVErs are at a huge disadvantage with PVP gear being the only pre-farmable gear set. I'm willing to bet most of you already had 50k glory and tons of GG coins even before the new sets were announced. How many PVE players had that?
So I am supposed to just shut up and take it if I'm not willing to run Fardelver's Crypt *three hundred times* between now and mod6 in order to get my PVP gear (as well as, somehow, get the triumph seals)? Suppose the new pre-farmable gear was only purchaseable with, say, Sharandar currency. If you complained about having to do 300 stupid boring dull brainless time-wasting PVE Sharandar dailies in order to get gear - FOR PVP - and I said "oh just shut up and stop making yourself a victim", would you really respond by saying "oh gee he has a point, guess I'd better go back to killing Redcaps"? Umm, no. You'd be screaming bloody murder and rightly so.
MY solution is to make a PVE set ALSO pre-farmable by removing the Unified Elements requirement for upgrading the Black Ice gear in the BI profession, and to modify the upgraded BI gear to make it a lvl 70 pure PVE set by removing the tenacity and buffing the stats a bit to make it about equivalent to the PVP set. It would still require players to prepare ahead of time to pre-farm 50k in Black Ice, and to pre-farm the BI gear if they don't already have it. Which are non-trivial tasks. But at least it's POSSIBLE to do by doing ONLY PVE and by never setting foot in your PVP matches and ruining them.
What is wrong with this?