== WARNING ==
I tested the Tenebrous, has a terrible problem, he considers the "current life" and not the maximum. So the more damage the Warlock takes, the less damage it.
Another point that some classes have damage reduction in the first hits, then it may be that this damage is not effective.
Still looking for a definitive answer on whether or not terror enchants proc creeping death in Module 5.
Unfortunately I won't be able to log ingame for a couple of days (you know why zeusom) so your best call is to try borrow perfect terror from your guildy, Culc, and test it yourself :P
On the side note, Lifedrinker does proc creeping death.
Unfortunately I won't be able to log ingame for a couple of days (you know why zeusom) so your best call is to try borrow perfect terror from your guildy, Culc, and test it yourself :P
On the side note, Lifedrinker does proc creeping death.
lifedrin does stack with creeping death???? :cool:
+8.8% Necrotic damage then heal yourself for that amount.
I've mentioned that it makes a very good enchantment if you want to nulify your enemy's damage output.
4 stacks of hand of blight + 4 stacks of artifact weapon + warding curse + wraith's shadow + feytouched...way to make your opponent useless. Of course if they allow you to pull all that stuff on them first
I've mentioned that it makes a very good enchantment if you want to nulify your enemy's damage output.
4 stacks of hand of blight + 4 stacks of artifact weapon + warding curse + wraith's shadow + feytouched...way to make your opponent useless. Of course if they allow you to pull all that stuff on them first
The 12% that it drains, improve significantly the damage it?
"4 stacks of artifact weapon"
Works distance or only melee?
I think the feytouched, should decrease 12% damage the opponent's weapon!
If so the damage of the top gun is 716 ~ 876, reducing 12% is 630 ~ 770. This is something really significant?
Bronzewood is another enchantment that ignores 16% of armor, looked good too! But has the CD 20sec (too).
Now the biggest problem is the PvP damage reduction and deflect. : /
I took 1x1 with a TR that stopped hardly took damage, only deflecting and reducing damage. Then I went 1x1 with cleric and he was another who did not receive damage.
WHEN my damage came I took well, but the problem was the damage enter: /
Unfortunately I won't be able to log ingame for a couple of days (you know why zeusom) so your best call is to try borrow perfect terror from your guildy, Culc, and test it yourself :P
I borrowed Perfect Terror from Jinchuriki for about 10 min and ran ACT but results were inconclusive. I unequipped all Greater Tenebrous that could proc creeping death. I killed some yeti in IWD using only curse+infernal spheres (fire damage), with and without the perfect terror slotted. In both cases, damage from creeping death ranged from 20 to 30% so there something else in my build that is proc'ing CD. So.. inconclusive. The damage from Perfect Terror itself was lackluster, less than 5% of total.
So thinking I will change out one Greater Tenebrous for an Azure Rank 10 to compensate some for the terrible crit of the purified black ice set and reslot the Perfect Vorpal. Also wear orange CHA instead of CON belt, drink a +300 crit elixir, and hope Tymora coin flips for crit boost. Annoying since I highly prefer a stable buff-independent build, but will do for now. That or Greater Plague fire.
I borrowed Perfect Terror from Jinchuriki for about 10 min and ran ACT but results were inconclusive. I unequipped all Greater Tenebrous that could proc creeping death. I killed some yeti in IWD using only curse+infernal spheres (fire damage), with and without the perfect terror slotted. In both cases, damage from creeping death ranged from 20 to 30% so there something else in my build that is proc'ing CD. So.. inconclusive. The damage from Perfect Terror itself was lackluster, less than 5% of total.
So thinking I will change out one Greater Tenebrous for an Azure Rank 10 to compensate some for the terrible crit of the purified black ice set and reslot the Perfect Vorpal. Also wear orange CHA instead of CON belt, drink a +300 crit elixir, and hope Tymora coin flips for crit boost. Annoying since I highly prefer a stable buff-independent build, but will do for now. That or Greater Plague fire.
If u are Fury, Critical Promise, Executioners Gift, and the other Necrotic Damaging Feats are whats procing Creeping death. Thats why they are such SMALL amounts of damage
vasdamas and friends ^^
CHA 1 = "1% Combat Advantage Damage" and "1% chance critical"
1 CON = "1% Damage" and "2% hp"
Note: Warlock has "90% Critical Severity" and "+ 3% chance critical".
What compensates for Warlock in this case, CON or CHA?
possible combinations (Initial Status):
-> 20CON and 15CHA (+6 points per level, in both)
-> 18CON and 18CHA (+6 points per level, in both)
Note: It has the belt that the + 4CON and the belt of + 4CHA
vasdamas and friends ^^
CHA 1 = "1% Combat Advantage Damage" and "1% chance critical"
1 CON = "1% Damage" and "2% hp"
Note: Warlock has "90% Critical Severity" and "+ 3% chance critical".
What compensates for Warlock in this case, CON or CHA?
possible combinations (Initial Status):
-> 20CON and 15CHA (+6 points per level, in both)
-> 18CON and 18CHA (+6 points per level, in both)
Note: It has the belt that the + 4CON and the belt of + 4CHA
Honestly, it's all up to you. If you use vorpal with HB paragon path and rely on RNG then perhaps maximizing crit chance is your way.
I personally find CON better for my PvP warlock as HP helps me survive longer plus the more HP I have, the more benefits I get from tenebrous enchantments in my offense slots.
This is a fantastic build and guide, thank you! My second shot at SW, am using this guide, at level 45 currently and am enjoying it more than any build or class I have so far tried (cw, gf, gwf, tr, hr) and gotten to 60. I play pvp almost exclusively and though I know things change at 60, SW at these levels (up to 45 so far) seem better than even tr. It is like an MI executioner without stealth but from range. KF is really like a ranged lashing blade and I am reaching 30k crits with it at only level 45! And kf is much easier to land than lashing.
would be good to make it sticky for this mod, since every 5th or 6th thread ask about a build for pvp , thank you
I am still going to keep my thread up to date once m6 is released even if there are decent improvements coming for lost PvE. No reason to make it sticky, I think. I did already ask Zebular to add my thread to guides database though. That should be enough .
Unintentionally encountered your guide and I gotta say it's amazing. The only problem is in proposed tactics against other classes. They work well if your opponent has common PvP build and ability rotation, but if they have some time to manage those against you, SW turns into a pile of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
GF - once he landed Crescendo - you're dead. He may also use Supremacy of Steel. Or you'll be killed with 100k Ferocious Reaction proc.
GWF - the only more or less even fight if you're good enough at dodging stuns. Or you'll be killed with 100k Ferocious Reaction proc.
HR - even fight if they don't abuse the set with a chance to reduce encounter CDs (Royal Guard IIRC).
TR - SE/LB, no need to use anything else.
DC - immortal or stun lock kills you with Break their Spirit.
CW - slot Storm Fury and dodge around.
I'm not saying your tips are bad, they're actually very good, but they only work against average opponents, who have no idea what they're facing.
M6 almost drains your soul given how boring it is. (c) joocycuzzzzzz
Unintentionally encountered your guide and I gotta say it's amazing. The only problem is in proposed tactics against other classes. They work well if your opponent has common PvP build and ability rotation, but if they have some time to manage those against you, SW turns into a pile of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
GF - once he landed Crescendo - you're dead. He may also use Supremacy of Steel. Or you'll be killed with 100k Ferocious Reaction proc.
GWF - the only more or less even fight if you're good enough at dodging stuns. Or you'll be killed with 100k Ferocious Reaction proc.
HR - even fight if they don't abuse the set with a chance to reduce encounter CDs (Royal Guard IIRC).
TR - SE/LB, no need to use anything else.
DC - immortal or stun lock kills you with Break their Spirit.
CW - slot Storm Fury and dodge around.
I'm not saying your tips are bad, they're actually very good, but they only work against average opponents, who have no idea what they're facing.
SW turns into pile of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> pretty often Those are just proposed strategies for most PvP encounters. Only GFs/GWFs seem to have SW killing stuff(FR) on their powers bar the first time I encounter them in a match as it tends to be effective against everything. The other classes most of the time are like "Oh a SW, a free kill. Not gonna bother changing my powers and stomp this one with what I have now" which allows me to take an advantage over, at least in the beginning till they got annoyed.
The key is to be unpredictable and do something they don't expect, I think.
Good PVP CWs don't currently use Storm Fury, but Chilling Presence and Storm Spell (which has some buggy interactions that causes it to do way too much damage). They'll just kill SWs with Ray of Frost -- through shadow slip.
As I said, when they use common build, you can play with them a bit a try to work your strategy, but man, have you ever played as a SW against Storm Fury? CW doesn't even need to use anything, once he drops below 50% - you're dead. SF procs for 10k every couple of seconds. And it hits you regardless of the range.
M6 almost drains your soul given how boring it is. (c) joocycuzzzzzz
Feytouched He steals 12% of the damage for how long does?
Vorpal
What would be the minimum chance of critical, so that "Vorpal" becomes efficient?
Plague Fire
Plague fire would be a second alternative to Vorpal?
Honestly, I don't remember how long was the duration of feytouched enchantment buff when I had perfect feytouched on my GF. But my guess it's 10 seconds To make vorpal efficient than the rest you should have 40%+/- (depending on your crit severity) If your crit is low and around 20%-30% I think I'd suggest plague fire. However, solbinder builds soulsparks faster with critical hits.
I say wait for m6, the things changed drastically with the enchantments rework.
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== WARNING ==
I tested the Tenebrous, has a terrible problem, he considers the "current life" and not the maximum. So the more damage the Warlock takes, the less damage it.
Another point that some classes have damage reduction in the first hits, then it may be that this damage is not effective.
Sopi SW Youtube channel pvp brickabrack
Unfortunately I won't be able to log ingame for a couple of days (you know why zeusom) so your best call is to try borrow perfect terror from your guildy, Culc, and test it yourself :P
On the side note, Lifedrinker does proc creeping death.
WTB Class Reroll please
It does proc creeping death, still lower damage than using perfect vorpal. Therefore im back here with perfect vorpal than perfect terror.
军医骑士 超过三千水平 突破极限释放开
Daily: Granworm Sword
Enounter: Vow of Enmity | Worm Smasher | 縮退砲
Class Feature: Kabbalah System
Aura: Warp Field
IGN: Faluzure 19k Tenebrous Soulbinder Scourge Warlock
(The Corrupted) (Retired)
even reducing armor by 20%?
lifedrin does stack with creeping death???? :cool:
+8.8% Necrotic damage then heal yourself for that amount.
Yeah its just not as good as you think it is. I dont recommend it by all means.
军医骑士 超过三千水平 突破极限释放开
Daily: Granworm Sword
Enounter: Vow of Enmity | Worm Smasher | 縮退砲
Class Feature: Kabbalah System
Aura: Warp Field
IGN: Faluzure 19k Tenebrous Soulbinder Scourge Warlock
(The Corrupted) (Retired)
I've mentioned that it makes a very good enchantment if you want to nulify your enemy's damage output.
4 stacks of hand of blight + 4 stacks of artifact weapon + warding curse + wraith's shadow + feytouched...way to make your opponent useless. Of course if they allow you to pull all that stuff on them first
WTB Class Reroll please
"4 stacks of artifact weapon"
Works distance or only melee?
WTB Class Reroll please
If so the damage of the top gun is 716 ~ 876, reducing 12% is 630 ~ 770. This is something really significant?
Bronzewood is another enchantment that ignores 16% of armor, looked good too! But has the CD 20sec (too).
Now the biggest problem is the PvP damage reduction and deflect. : /
I took 1x1 with a TR that stopped hardly took damage, only deflecting and reducing damage. Then I went 1x1 with cleric and he was another who did not receive damage.
WHEN my damage came I took well, but the problem was the damage enter: /
I borrowed Perfect Terror from Jinchuriki for about 10 min and ran ACT but results were inconclusive. I unequipped all Greater Tenebrous that could proc creeping death. I killed some yeti in IWD using only curse+infernal spheres (fire damage), with and without the perfect terror slotted. In both cases, damage from creeping death ranged from 20 to 30% so there something else in my build that is proc'ing CD. So.. inconclusive. The damage from Perfect Terror itself was lackluster, less than 5% of total.
So thinking I will change out one Greater Tenebrous for an Azure Rank 10 to compensate some for the terrible crit of the purified black ice set and reslot the Perfect Vorpal. Also wear orange CHA instead of CON belt, drink a +300 crit elixir, and hope Tymora coin flips for crit boost. Annoying since I highly prefer a stable buff-independent build, but will do for now. That or Greater Plague fire.
Sopi SW Youtube channel pvp brickabrack
If u are Fury, Critical Promise, Executioners Gift, and the other Necrotic Damaging Feats are whats procing Creeping death. Thats why they are such SMALL amounts of damage
CHA 1 = "1% Combat Advantage Damage" and "1% chance critical"
1 CON = "1% Damage" and "2% hp"
Note: Warlock has "90% Critical Severity" and "+ 3% chance critical".
What compensates for Warlock in this case, CON or CHA?
possible combinations (Initial Status):
-> 20CON and 15CHA (+6 points per level, in both)
-> 18CON and 18CHA (+6 points per level, in both)
Note: It has the belt that the + 4CON and the belt of + 4CHA
I personally find CON better for my PvP warlock as HP helps me survive longer plus the more HP I have, the more benefits I get from tenebrous enchantments in my offense slots.
WTB Class Reroll please
WTB Class Reroll please
Congratulations.
Loving it, thanks again!
I am still going to keep my thread up to date once m6 is released even if there are decent improvements coming for lost PvE. No reason to make it sticky, I think. I did already ask Zebular to add my thread to guides database though. That should be enough
WTB Class Reroll please
GF - once he landed Crescendo - you're dead. He may also use Supremacy of Steel. Or you'll be killed with 100k Ferocious Reaction proc.
GWF - the only more or less even fight if you're good enough at dodging stuns. Or you'll be killed with 100k Ferocious Reaction proc.
HR - even fight if they don't abuse the set with a chance to reduce encounter CDs (Royal Guard IIRC).
TR - SE/LB, no need to use anything else.
DC - immortal or stun lock kills you with Break their Spirit.
CW - slot Storm Fury and dodge around.
I'm not saying your tips are bad, they're actually very good, but they only work against average opponents, who have no idea what they're facing.
The key is to be unpredictable and do something they don't expect, I think.
WTB Class Reroll please
As I said, when they use common build, you can play with them a bit a try to work your strategy, but man, have you ever played as a SW against Storm Fury? CW doesn't even need to use anything, once he drops below 50% - you're dead. SF procs for 10k every couple of seconds. And it hits you regardless of the range.
you got me curious now. ive never seen a single good SW in this game but you seem to be decent
wanna duo-queue one of these days? so i can see you in action.
let me know
Guardian Fighter main. I will never switch to Paladin even if we're a dying breed. GF for ever!
Main alts: Great Weapon Fighter, Control Wizard.
bets of luck with that duo queue ^^
He steals 12% of the damage for how long does?
Vorpal
What would be the minimum chance of critical, so that "Vorpal" becomes efficient?
Plague Fire
Plague fire would be a second alternative to Vorpal?
Honestly, I don't remember how long was the duration of feytouched enchantment buff when I had perfect feytouched on my GF. But my guess it's 10 seconds
I say wait for m6, the things changed drastically with the enchantments rework.
WTB Class Reroll please
and Test server items are iffy right now, enchants some working some not lol