Nice build, im using 1 simular to yours. I have a few questions tho.
- This build is without the stats of a ioun stone i asume?
- You say somewhere at the start that your arpen comes from dread legion and "a" dark enchant. Whoever it doesnt show in your gear your using any dark.
- What rank are your enchants? because i can tell they arent r10's
- Last but not least. Im using a profound necklace to but i choose to go for the necklace of defiance(wich is also a defensive neck). The stats that are different then the warding are:
Warding:
+301 max hp
+142 deflect
vs
Defiance
+75 recovery
+75 defense
+67 regen
Wouldnt you agree it might be better to have more regen/recovery instead of the 300 hp. Asuming deflect and defense balance themselfs out.
My cat is unequipped. These stats are without an augment companion.
I recently changed a dark enchant to silvery- I will edit that in the post, thank you.
I have 1 rank 10, 1 rank 8, and the rest are 9s.
As for the neck, it really depends on your preference. If you need the extra recovery and regen, absolutely.
I dont understand how your arpen is that high, i have exactly the same gear only have fomorian daggers, so im missing out on arpen there. i do however have a lantern so i get 250 arpen from that.
I still only have 1,9k arpen without augment. The daggers dont give 500 arpen so i guess those stats are when you had arpen enchants.
You also say your a vorpal TR but your crit severity is 75%.
I guess its just your stats that arent updated
either way good build little bit to offensive for me but i can see it being good to hold the mid node
I dont understand how your arpen is that high, i have exactly the same gear only have fomorian daggers, so im missing out on arpen there. i do however have a lantern so i get 250 arpen from that.
I still only have 1,9k arpen without augment. The daggers dont give 500 arpen so i guess those stats are when you had arpen enchants.
You also say your a vorpal TR but your crit severity is 75%.
I guess its just your stats that arent updated
either way good build little bit to offensive for me but i can see it being good to hold the mid node
Perhaps you don't have the 250 ArP boon from Dread Ring.
Crit severity from vorpal does not show up on a character's stats. Total would be 125%.
I do have the boon, i guess maybe the stats are when you had a dark echantment. I cant figured out where you would get 300 extra arpen from.
I double checked it for you. It was an extra 260, so it must have been from when I had the dark.
Edited the first post to have the correct number- 2,044.
Thanks for checking those numbers so thoroughly. Sometimes I forget to edit it all when I make changes.
I switched my artifact to Sigil of the Great Weapon, which gives a very nice amount of HP & ArPen.
Also, I increased my recovery to 2.2k.
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krazypunk117Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 27Arc User
edited May 2014
Hey zokir, I just want to say I love your guide, very simple and to the point love it. Quick question though have you messed with or considered the corrupted ice dagger? It gives armor pen and stats look really nice.
Edit: Also wanted your opinion on the Dominator's Cloak? I just picked it up from the pvp campaign
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krazypunk117Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 27Arc User
edited May 2014
Another question, why go recovery enchantments instead of armor pen if you're trying to burst ppl down quickly? Sorry if it sounds like a stupid question but was just curious.
I just had the chance to face you in gaunt pvp (really 5 minutes ago) and I really love how you use a vorpal and not a bilethorn, really nice build man
I just had the chance to face you in gaunt pvp (really 5 minutes ago) and I really love how you use a vorpal and not a bilethorn, really nice build man
You're the TR that used courage breaker on me so I got stomped by 2 GWFs lol. Spent the rest of the match trying to find you and use courage breaker xD
Another question, why go recovery enchantments instead of armor pen if you're trying to burst ppl down quickly? Sorry if it sounds like a stupid question but was just curious.
I'm trying to burst people down, but I'm also trying to stay alive. With this amount of recovery I can run a rotation where im nearly always in stealth or ITC.
Hey zokir, I just want to say I love your guide, very simple and to the point love it. Quick question though have you messed with or considered the corrupted ice dagger? It gives armor pen and stats look really nice.
Edit: Also wanted your opinion on the Dominator's Cloak? I just picked it up from the pvp campaign
I'll be using the corrupted weapon sets and purified armor set. The dominator's cloak is nice for pvp. I'm sticking with profound warding for the recovery.
You're the TR that used courage breaker on me so I got stomped by 2 GWFs lol. Spent the rest of the match trying to find you and use courage breaker xD
LOL well you eventually found me but you used whirl instead hahaha (I was so low health that a dagger was really enough haha) and I was actually looking for you for the curiosity of a 1v1 (yeah 1v1 in gaunt, gl for that lol)
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krazypunk117Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 27Arc User
edited May 2014
Ok awesome, let me know how the purified ice set works out for you? I'm curious if it's better, the only problem is that we lose out on our more stealth meter and more damage while stealthed
So I decided to try this build today so I decided to respec and I must say that it's an amazing build, I didn't use DF in pvp before and i'm still getting used to it but still I managed to hold the point against 3 people. Really love this build thx hyenas.
Is it still effective at fitting the role as a roaming build in premades with the mount changes?
Also, how does this build go against HRs 1v1? I'd think being a more spike dmg build with vorpal would help immensely.
Yes, it is. However, I have adjusted the build to have more recovery to allow for point-holding in some cases. I also do have both a vorpal and a bilethorn now to switch between roaming and point-holding.
HR 1v1s are extremely difficult for TRs to win at the moment. It's easier to 1v1 them with a vorpal burst build than a bile, I've tested that, but if you're up against a good pathfinder HR your best bet is just to kite them until help arrives.
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krazypunk117Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 27Arc User
edited June 2014
Hey Zokir, so I'm trying out this build and curious how the playstyle is exactly. I feel like I do no dmg and I rarely survive. Also I have a perfect bilethorn not vorpal cause my friend gave me it, I couldn't say no. Also I should mention I don't have the waters artifact cause I don't have enough AD to get it and I don't have the gwf artifact cause I don't have a gwf lol which could be hurting me a lot. I do have rank 9s silver and radiant so that's helping a little.
Also how well does build do in PvE? It doesn't seem too bad. Sorry for all the question, is just I've tried numerous amounts of builds and wasted a good chunk of AD trying to find one that does well for me and that I like of course
Hey Zokir, so I'm trying out this build and curious how the playstyle is exactly. I feel like I do no dmg and I rarely survive. Also I have a perfect bilethorn not vorpal cause my friend gave me it, I couldn't say no. Also I should mention I don't have the waters artifact cause I don't have enough AD to get it and I don't have the gwf artifact cause I don't have a gwf lol which could be hurting me a lot. I do have rank 9s silver and radiant so that's helping a little.
Also how well does build do in PvE? It doesn't seem too bad. Sorry for all the question, is just I've tried numerous amounts of builds and wasted a good chunk of AD trying to find one that does well for me and that I like of course
The damage in this build should be very high because of the feats. With vorpal, and with bilethorn.
Survivability should be high due to the amount of HP and regen, but what's really going to impact your ability to survive is your playstyle. You need to be sure to time your rotation correctly: your stealth, your ITC, your dodges. If you'd like me to go more in-depth with this let me know.
For PvE this build actually does very well since it is executioner. Of course if you want a PvE build it's not the best and would require completely different gear.
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krazypunk117Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 27Arc User
The damage in this build should be very high because of the feats. With vorpal, and with bilethorn.
Survivability should be high due to the amount of HP and regen, but what's really going to impact your ability to survive is your playstyle. You need to be sure to time your rotation correctly: your stealth, your ITC, your dodges. If you'd like me to go more in-depth with this let me know.
For PvE this build actually does very well since it is executioner. Of course if you want a PvE build it's not the best and would require completely different gear.
If you could go more in depth that would be awesome. I definitely want a PvP build, only reason I asked about PvE is cause I do dailies, and dungeons with ppl from legit so I would like to do somewhat well in those scenarios :P. But def I want a PvP build cause that's what I mostly play. Right now I'm trying snow's pvp perma build and it seems ok so far, some games I do amazing and some I don't. That's why I was interested in this guide cause it goes down executioner like you mentioned and even though I mostly pvp I still wanted a build that does well in pvp and not so bad in pve, or at least not doing the least amount of dmg in a group lol. I played with a group yesterday and the GF almost beat me in damage lol
Also sorry to bother you but what Feats would you recommend for a non-human? Is worth getting the shocking execution feat even though shocking execution kind of got nerfed and to me it seems like whirlwind is better
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[UPDATED] with a different playstyle. With the popularization of pathfinder HR and roar-spammer GWF I've left behind my hope that TRs will not continue to be backed into the corner that is perma. I've updated my build for a semi-perma executioner playstyle with bilethorn =/ So much sadness.
[UPDATED] with a different playstyle. With the popularization of pathfinder HR and roar-spammer GWF I've left behind my hope that TRs will not continue to be backed into the corner that is perma. I've updated my build for a semi-perma executioner playstyle with bilethorn =/ So much sadness.
gotta try this new playstyle, with the upcoming nerf on stealth just around the corner we need to adapt to change (well always)
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gdawg311Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 4Arc User
edited June 2014
I have a quick question regardin this build. ive been following it and i love it so far, but what are the best companions to use here, or what do you guys use/think is the best, im currently leveling and would like to level up the best ones along with my character! thanks!
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My cat is unequipped. These stats are without an augment companion.
I recently changed a dark enchant to silvery- I will edit that in the post, thank you.
I have 1 rank 10, 1 rank 8, and the rest are 9s.
As for the neck, it really depends on your preference. If you need the extra recovery and regen, absolutely.
Hyenas@zokir - Essence of Aggression
I still only have 1,9k arpen without augment. The daggers dont give 500 arpen so i guess those stats are when you had arpen enchants.
You also say your a vorpal TR but your crit severity is 75%.
I guess its just your stats that arent updated
either way good build little bit to offensive for me but i can see it being good to hold the mid node
Perhaps you don't have the 250 ArP boon from Dread Ring.
Crit severity from vorpal does not show up on a character's stats. Total would be 125%.
Hyenas@zokir - Essence of Aggression
I double checked it for you. It was an extra 260, so it must have been from when I had the dark.
Edited the first post to have the correct number- 2,044.
Thanks for checking those numbers so thoroughly. Sometimes I forget to edit it all when I make changes.
Hyenas@zokir - Essence of Aggression
Also, I increased my recovery to 2.2k.
Hyenas@zokir - Essence of Aggression
Edit: Also wanted your opinion on the Dominator's Cloak? I just picked it up from the pvp campaign
You're the TR that used courage breaker on me so I got stomped by 2 GWFs lol. Spent the rest of the match trying to find you and use courage breaker xD
I'm trying to burst people down, but I'm also trying to stay alive. With this amount of recovery I can run a rotation where im nearly always in stealth or ITC.
I'll be using the corrupted weapon sets and purified armor set. The dominator's cloak is nice for pvp. I'm sticking with profound warding for the recovery.
Hyenas@zokir - Essence of Aggression
LOL well you eventually found me but you used whirl instead hahaha (I was so low health that a dagger was really enough haha) and I was actually looking for you for the curiosity of a 1v1 (yeah 1v1 in gaunt, gl for that lol)
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Also, how does this build go against HRs 1v1? I'd think being a more spike dmg build with vorpal would help immensely.
Yes, it is. However, I have adjusted the build to have more recovery to allow for point-holding in some cases. I also do have both a vorpal and a bilethorn now to switch between roaming and point-holding.
HR 1v1s are extremely difficult for TRs to win at the moment. It's easier to 1v1 them with a vorpal burst build than a bile, I've tested that, but if you're up against a good pathfinder HR your best bet is just to kite them until help arrives.
Hyenas@zokir - Essence of Aggression
Also how well does build do in PvE? It doesn't seem too bad. Sorry for all the question, is just I've tried numerous amounts of builds and wasted a good chunk of AD trying to find one that does well for me and that I like of course
The damage in this build should be very high because of the feats. With vorpal, and with bilethorn.
Survivability should be high due to the amount of HP and regen, but what's really going to impact your ability to survive is your playstyle. You need to be sure to time your rotation correctly: your stealth, your ITC, your dodges. If you'd like me to go more in-depth with this let me know.
For PvE this build actually does very well since it is executioner. Of course if you want a PvE build it's not the best and would require completely different gear.
Hyenas@zokir - Essence of Aggression
If you could go more in depth that would be awesome. I definitely want a PvP build, only reason I asked about PvE is cause I do dailies, and dungeons with ppl from legit so I would like to do somewhat well in those scenarios :P. But def I want a PvP build cause that's what I mostly play. Right now I'm trying snow's pvp perma build and it seems ok so far, some games I do amazing and some I don't. That's why I was interested in this guide cause it goes down executioner like you mentioned and even though I mostly pvp I still wanted a build that does well in pvp and not so bad in pve, or at least not doing the least amount of dmg in a group lol. I played with a group yesterday and the GF almost beat me in damage lol
Also sorry to bother you but what Feats would you recommend for a non-human? Is worth getting the shocking execution feat even though shocking execution kind of got nerfed and to me it seems like whirlwind is better
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gotta try this new playstyle, with the upcoming nerf on stealth just around the corner we need to adapt to change (well always)
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he has the old one
I consider myself one of the lucky few to still have mine.
As a general question, what does anyone figure those would be worth unbound now? (I might have one or three....)
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