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  • sockmunkeysockmunkey Member Posts: 4,622 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    flyingfinn wrote: »
    If they are going to "tweak" it, tweak it so that ignoring someone doesn't count for the muting. That's the biggest flaw of the whole FUBAR system.

    Or just allow the demerits expire over time. That way a few ignores a year ago wont count for much.
  • bel1eveeebel1eveee Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Yes this is dragon.This is not prime time.I am currently logged in dragon and a whole page at the moment takes about 15 seconds.

    Can you please remember that i am not some chinese spamming that I am selling diamonds , nor am i a kid 'spamming' zone chat saying my HAMSTER is big or a racist or whatever.And I did/do not write 2 lines or more in a row.
  • thequeueballthequeueball Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    bel1eveee wrote: »
    Yes this is dragon.This is not prime time.I am currently logged in dragon and a whole page at the moment takes about 15 seconds.

    Can you please remember that i am not some chinese spamming that I am selling diamonds , nor am i a kid 'spamming' zone chat saying my HAMSTER is big or a racist or whatever.And I did/do not write 2 lines or more in a row.

    He's trolling you. Check his history. He's one of the people spam reporting others.
  • nephtnepht Member Posts: 5,826 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    bel1eveee wrote: »
    Yes this is dragon.This is not prime time.I am currently logged in dragon and a whole page at the moment takes about 15 seconds.

    Can you please remember that i am not some chinese spamming that I am selling diamonds , nor am i a kid 'spamming' zone chat saying my HAMSTER is big or a racist or whatever.And I did/do not write 2 lines or more in a row.

    ERM I'd do less of the China bashing, Chinese money helped fund this game..you know Perfect World. Not all gold sellers are from China I bet most countries have these scammers. This is about the chat ban system not your bigotry. I am starting to see why you where chat muted.
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  • elessymelessym Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    He's trolling you. Check his history. He's one of the people spam reporting others.

    I suppose we're supposed to ignore that bel1eveee was trying to organize a mass reporting campaign on this very forum?
    "Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
  • bel1eveeebel1eveee Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    nepht wrote: »
    I am starting to see why you where chat muted.

    My point was that I did not break the rules or deserve to be flagged as spammer as evident by my screenshots and the flaws we have pointed in this thread.No offense to the chinese .
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  • stormdrag0nstormdrag0n Member Posts: 3,222 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    syberghost wrote: »
    ...and there it is. It usually only takes three posts before you folks make it clear the REAL reasons you keep getting chat-banned. Thanks for not disappointing.



    Turning yours off instead seems to be working.

    Ahh Syber you are indeed one of my favorite poster here , logic in a sea of hyperbole. :cool:
    Always Looking for mature laidback players/rpers for Dungeon Delves!
  • thequeueballthequeueball Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    elessym wrote: »
    I suppose we're supposed to ignore that bel1eveee was trying to organize a mass reporting campaign on this very forum?

    I had no idea. But I do know shahualing has been trolling this thread from the start.
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  • synkodesynkode Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I just got out of a 24 hour ban, and now am back because 1 person reported me as a spammer.
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  • bel1eveeebel1eveee Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    my suggestion has been and always will be to move trade chat somewhere else where it's out of the way and voluntary to listen to. A bazaar zone, start promoting the player-made trade channel...whatever the case may be.
    I agree that something has to be done and that is what I've been working towards by posting here.
    About the mass report organize I was angry and my logic was that its the same situation with the AH exploit ->Cryptic does not give attention to a problem unless a LARGE amount of people are affected.I do not want to be afraid of looking for group.
    Nevertheless the plan did not work because I edited my post by the time I cooled off[about 5-10 min later] and realised that my logic was affected by my anger.
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  • bel1eveeebel1eveee Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    How can I promote them , when I will most likely get spam reported again.
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  • synkodesynkode Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    shahualing wrote: »
    See, now this is a troll.

    It's impossible to get 24 hour banned from one person reporting you as a spammer.

    I am not a troll, I just got out of a 24 hour ban and was posting in the zone chat and got reported again.
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  • thequeueballthequeueball Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    synkode wrote: »
    I am not a troll, I just got out of a 24 hour ban and was posting in the zone chat and got reported again.

    No point in arguing. The people saying the ones being chat banned "deserve it" are making assumptions. When in fact the only people that the chat ban hurts are the legitimate players who are not trying to troll. Those spamming chat with malicious intent know they are going to get a chat banned. It's those that have no malicious intent that suffer from this system.
  • thequeueballthequeueball Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    shahualing wrote: »

    But this all comes down to, if you are going to use zone chat for trade, you run the risk of getting chat banned. .

    Wow the troll hit the nail on the head. Bravo sir, you just said why this system is broken and you didn't even mean too.
  • elessymelessym Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    When in fact the only people that the chat ban hurts are the legitimate players who are not trying to troll.

    That's ridiculous. The chat-ban catches lots of spammers. No one other than Cryptic knows what the 'false-positive' rate is, and judging by the complaints on the forum, it's pretty near zero.
    "Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
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  • thequeueballthequeueball Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    elessym wrote: »
    That's ridiculous. The chat-ban catches lots of spammers. No one other than Cryptic knows what the 'false-positive' rate is, and judging by the complaints on the forum, it's pretty near zero.

    So would a rate limiter. So would a zone specific chat ban.

    My argument is why ban from ALL chat in game, and in other games? I don't care about a zone chat ban, that would be acceptable.
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  • thequeueballthequeueball Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    shahualing wrote: »
    And completely ignored the rest of my post where I offered solutions to the problem that you yourself can effect without having to wait for developer intervention? Brava, sir.

    Because asking legitimate players to put in effort to avoid a chat ban that shouldn't exist in the first place is asinine.
  • nephtnepht Member Posts: 5,826 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Calm down boys. Facts are this. The report spam feature is a failure Zone in the enclave is still unreadable.
  • calaminthacalamintha Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    shahualing wrote: »
    sending tells

    I can't fathom anything going wrong with this plan. Also, only a minority reads forums so that's pointless too.
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  • thequeueballthequeueball Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    shahualing wrote: »
    Asking players to circumvent a system that isn't going to change and at the same time, stop annoying thousands of players?

    The nerve!

    Of course it won't change if you keep brushing the issue under the rug.
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