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  • minotaur2857minotaur2857 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,141 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If they roll back I'm done with this game and charging back my founders pack and zen purchases, I've absolutely hammered the game over the weekend doing the REALLY boring stuff necessary to level up my crafting and there's no way I'm doing it again.
  • dezstravusdezstravus Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    OP has been updated with the latest!
  • killsmallchildr1killsmallchildr1 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If they roll back I'm done with this game and charging back my founders pack and zen purchases, I've absolutely hammered the game over the weekend doing the REALLY boring stuff necessary to level up my crafting and there's no way I'm doing it again.
    If they do not roll back the game is done for anyways. You would rather see the game be broken then level again? You are silly.
  • mapost1985mapost1985 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0
    edited May 2013
    yarknarf wrote: »
    Yeah, I don't see them doing anything other than ban some accounts that have already laundered the currencies.

    I guess the choice is wipe and lose many, many F2P who may not want to put in all of the work again

    or

    Don't wipe and lose far less people but people who spend money.

    I figure they will see losing a few people who have spent money and dealing with that thing is the lesser of two evils.

    Which is a shame because a wipe with zen refund would solve the issue.

    I can't see myself doing a lot of PvP if enough people are max geared through exploits and I'm just setting myself up with the basics - so this kind of cuts off a whole side of the game.

    I hope they see the long term picture and restart.

    But I doubt it.

    You do realize this game has no subscription. Just the start up amount. For Founders.
  • randomone777randomone777 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Well crud. I was really enjoying this game. Now I have to stop playing until they clearly tell us what they're doing about this.

    I am grumpy.
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  • maho4200maho4200 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 526 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    dezstravus wrote: »
    Update 12PM Pacific: We are still investigating the situation. There is a high likelihood that we will be performing character-specific rollbacks on any accounts that were found to be utilizing the exploit. Additionally, we are investigating the extent of what can additional steps can be taken to remove any illegitimately obtained Astral Diamonds that have entered into the economy. At this stage, the possibility of performing a shard-wide is unlikely.
    Bullpoop, that's not enough.
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  • natejam101natejam101 Member Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    wolfrat14 wrote: »
    Thank you for using the Better Business Bureau's Online Complaint System.
    Your complaint has been assigned case # 57257837.
    Correspondence regarding this complaint will be emailed to : [DELETED]
    Please print a copy of this for your records.

    Filed on : May 19 2013

    Filed by :
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    Filed against :
    Perfect World Entertainment
    101 Redwood Shores Parkway Ste 400
    Redwood City CA 94065

    Complaint Description:
    Perfect World sold in-game currency for their game Neverwinter through their Guardian's Pack product. Perfect World then allowed an outrageous economic exploit to go viral within the game that rendered the in-game currency worthless. Perfect World then removed my access to the in-game currency all together, effectively re-taking possession of a product or service they had previously sold to me, thereby obtaining money under false pretenses. I do not have the in-game currency I was sold, and it's value has been terribly comprised by the ineptitude and complicity of Perfect World employees.

    Your Desired Resolution:
    A full character and server wipe and refund to all players.

    This case will be reviewed by a complaint specialist at the Better Business Bureau, and then forwarded to the business for their response. It is our policy to allow the business 10 working days to respond to your complaint. You will be notified when the business has responded.

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    ****, you beat me to it!! lol nice work
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  • killsmallchildr1killsmallchildr1 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Game is dead. Moderator please ban my account I do not care to play your **** game. selective rollback will not do anything you idiots.
  • manduchessmanduchess Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 46
    edited May 2013
    They need to do a full wipe or this game is over. Just look at the poll. A large majority of the players who want to continue playing this game want a full wipe. Not to mention a full wipe helps PWE legally. If they do not perform a full wipe this game is dead and PWE can enjoy a long summer of class action law suits...
  • marcvinimarcvini Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 30
    edited May 2013
    Wipes or Rollbacks are the laziest and most daring solutions. How will you have confidence to spend your money and time in a game that, at any moment, might just "start" all over again?
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  • limbwoodlimbwood Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    But you're wrong. I've done plenty of chargebacks on games. I plan to add this one to my list.
  • devlinnedevlinne Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    marcvini wrote: »
    Wipes or Rollbacks are the laziest and most daring solutions. How will you have confidence to spend your money and time in a game that, at any moment, might just "start" all over again?

    I'm gonna TRY and not be rude with you....

    Please tell me good sir. How is a ROLLBACK of 24hrs a STARTOVER? Did u start playing 24 hrs ago?
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  • satukisatuki Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dezstravus wrote: »
    Update 12PM Pacific: We are still investigating the situation. There is a high likelihood that we will be performing character-specific rollbacks on any accounts that were found to be utilizing the exploit. Additionally, we are investigating the extent of what can additional steps can be taken to remove any illegitimately obtained Astral Diamonds that have entered into the economy. At this stage, the possibility of performing a shard-wide is unlikely.

    Seriously? a rollback of who, how many ? do yo realize this glitch has been going on since day 1 ? its too late for a roll back .... money laundry <- by the time you fiqure out the fix the exploited money would have worked its way into the system.'
    get your head out of your @#$ Cryptic the masses have voted we want a full out wipe. stop being lazy cryptic and stop using simple copy and paste coding to "fix" things and do the right thing

    and yeah i am calling you out on it so what?
  • theenigma7theenigma7 Member Posts: 31
    edited May 2013
    wolfrat14 wrote: »

    Put mine in last night before this current **** storm...... to bad it will be probably 10 days before it is even read with this **** company.
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dezstravus wrote: »
    OP has been updated with the latest!

    What you didn't get is that exploiters are active people on the forums and you'll find their accounts completely empty with a symbolic amount of ADs left. Everything will be turned into items, given to friends/alts via direct trades or mail (not disabled in game), and then spread across several alt accounts you won't ban.
  • revenantbobrevenantbob Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    A full wipe is <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. I paid money for a head start and I earned all my gear legit. I dropped 200$ to be where I'm at, and some dude unrelated to me runs a scam so I get punished? Roll back the AD, punish the dudes, let the people whining move to a different game, and life goes on.

    As if they don't have logs of every transaction as it stands. People have no idea where the economy is and are speculating/talking out their butts.
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  • xilinearxilinear Member Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dezstravus wrote: »
    There is a high likelihood that we will be performing character-specific rollbacks on any accounts that were found to be utilizing the exploit.

    I don't get it, I thought they will be banned forever and their IP banned. Now they get a rollback ? wow !
  • zraaxzraax Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    marcvini wrote: »
    Wipes or Rollbacks are the laziest and most daring solutions. How will you have confidence to spend your money and time in a game that, at any moment, might just "start" all over again?

    Lumping together wipes and rollbacks doesn't really work. If there was a full wipe at any moment, then I would agree, but a 2- or 3-day rollback every once in a while really wouldn't hurt much. No fun, granted, but if it was fixing a serious flaw and only rolled back as far as was needed then it would be tolerable.
  • nova1690nova1690 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dezstravus wrote: »
    Update 12PM Pacific: We are still investigating the situation. There is a high likelihood that we will be performing character-specific rollbacks on any accounts that were found to be utilizing the exploit. Additionally, we are investigating the extent of what can additional steps can be taken to remove any illegitimately obtained Astral Diamonds that have entered into the economy. At this stage, the possibility of performing a shard-wide is unlikely.

    This isn't enough, the games economy will be totally and utterly ruined for us who didn't cheat at all.
  • metesametesa Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    there is no more neverwinter on my computer, uninstall op!
  • killsmallchildr1killsmallchildr1 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    My favorite part of this MMO is when it lit on fire and burned to death.
  • ikla7ikla7 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    nice, will rollback only a few acc.
    and for example, if my buddy has 100m AD, i put in some <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> (which worth 100ad or so) for 90M.
    he buys it.
    will i got rollbacked too?
    how will u know, that he didnt misclick?
    how will u know, that we are friends?
  • killsmallchildr1killsmallchildr1 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    A full wipe is <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. I paid money for a head start and I earned all my gear legit. I dropped 200$ to be where I'm at, and some dude unrelated to me runs a scam so I get punished? Roll back the AD, punish the dudes, let the people whining move to a different game, and life goes on.

    As if they don't have logs of every transaction as it stands. People have no idea where the economy is and are speculating/talking out their butts.
    Hey fat kid. Go work out. No one cares what you have done. It is best for the game.
  • stubbinmytoestubbinmytoe Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 44
    edited May 2013
    imivo wrote: »
    They do. I deal with them on a daily basis.

    And that is B.S. they DO NOT do chargebacks on virtual downloads. I too deal with them on a daily basis
  • eisprizessineisprizessin Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Lol, few of the people in my guild have literally billions of AD worth of items in their accounts and alts. I see no way to counter that except a full wipe.
  • crimsonseacrimsonsea Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Can you guys AT LEAST put up a new server for us to play on for now at least?
  • crazydavey804crazydavey804 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Wow the the speed at which the exploits spiraled out of control in this game is mind blowing. From what I've read so far AD is completely worthless in game now. Great job PWE, another stellar launch.
  • mumps4mumps4 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I want a new server with a bonus from the start (exp packs and Zen and AD, etc.). I don't want to continue this game any more.
  • killsmallchildr1killsmallchildr1 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ****ing wip the servers you noobs. The game is saturated!
  • killsmallchildr1killsmallchildr1 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    This exploit has existed for weeks!
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