Best solution IMO is a complete wipe, Zen purchases refunded. Exploiting accounts permabanned. Game fixed.
To address the character situation, PW could restore all characters to level 1 but then give an xp boost to ease the releveling process, up to the level that the character was at before the wipe.
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kaiserschmarrnMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 390
If they wipe servers people are saying they won't play anymore.
So wipe away, because not playing a game you can't get your time invested in back, makes no sense.
This has screwed the game totally and ruined it.
So you have lost that time invested already.
Playing another game won't get the time back, leaving the game as it is, won't get your time back wasted.
I wish people would think outside of the box before throwing there toys out of their pram.
The only way they can fix this, imo, is refund people's zen they have bought, make a rollback by 24hrs (where the exploit got out of hand) start a new server and let people start again if they want.
Those who want to continue on the broken servers can, but the majority I am guessing would want to start again.
At least it gives us the players a choice of what's to happen.
It would be the same as a wipe, but not cause as much damage imo.
You do realize their goal was to merge everyone to one server right? Opening a new one won't do anything.
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rragleMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
You do realize their goal was to merge everyone to one server right? Opening a new one won't do anything.
Yes it does, merging 3 broken servers into one broken server won't do anything.
Making a new one and giving people the choice of starting again on a fresh one where it hasn't been exploited and ruined is a fix.
Those who don't want a wipe, still get to keep there characters on the other servers (even if its one big one)
A rollback is enough for now. If people know there will be a char wipe, they won't report exploits and will wait for the official launch to exploit. Then a wipe could happen, even if i don't like this idea.
It IS a game. Played any real life sport games in your life? Why do you do those? For fun!
I've seen your trollposts on the entire first page but I'll try to give you a decent response.
All the stuff I do in life is because I enjoy them or have to. I suffer if something bad happens while it's not my fault at all. Therefore they make me suffer in this game by giving a complete wipe. I hope you play this game for fun, just like you would any real sportsgame. If a referee makes a really bad call mid-season that destroys all your fun, wouldn't you suffer if you lost all the points you've gained in matches before? You'd basically have to play the entire season again. I do take into consideration that the game is beta and has only been out for 3 weeks, but that does NOT exclude the fact that this should've never happened.
As I said though, I'll wipe, if it's helpfull to create a long-term gaming enviroment.
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leonafireheadMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 6Arc User
edited May 2013
I honestly doubt they will wipe the servers - that would drive too many players away. I certainyl would think twice before leveling up again.
screw all those whiners...
its still a **** beta, get over it.
you have ****ed up your game so badly - now deal with it.
i say; wipe everything!. start anew and this time do it the right way. learn from your mistakes..
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rragleMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
If you start a new server and give people the choice of starting on it, then you give founders the head start over the others.
So they still get the benefit over those who didnt.
It's a simple solution that keeps all happy.
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rragleMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
Double post
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psych0zerMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
wipe? no thanks!
is the Cryptic guys job to hunt the worms and fix the bugs
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psych0zerMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
-double post
they should make something with the forums.. they move like...
Reinitialize founder pack resources to appropriate unbanned accounts.
Refund all zen purchases with chargebacks and other methods.
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v1spockMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 10Arc User
edited May 2013
From what I have read, the exploit that caused the AH/ZEN market shutdown has been going on for weeks. But became widespread in last 24 hours. If it has been going on this long then the currency base is already damaged to much. I have 5 characters ranging from level 15 to 36. I also have been extremely active in Professions and have 4 characters up to lvl 8 in Leadership and realize the work involved in getting back there. All that said, I am in favor of a full wipe with fully instituted lifetime bans for anyone found to use ANY exploit since Open Beta started. And this is to be carried out after the exploits have been found and fixed.
Even if they have to shutdown the game for a while, the Neverwinter lovers will return. The exploiters will move on to their next ill-gotten gain. It will make for a much more enjoyable gaming experience.
All the stuff I do in life is because I enjoy them or have to. I suffer if something bad happens while it's not my fault at all. Therefore they make me suffer in this game by giving a complete wipe.
I think his point is you are overreacting. you should be annoyed or frustrated, not SUFFERING. You SUFFER when you have cancer. you SUFFER when your spouse dies. you SUFFER when you are thrown into a gulag. You have to be a whining entitled child with no perspective in life to SUFFER from such minor first-world problems such as a character while.
+ complete wipe with bans.
Paid $60 for the SP, but it would be easy as sin to get back to where I was or better considering I know where to go, what to spec in and how to farm. It's the only solution to this clusterpluck of exploitation.
I also hope they hire some people who can code an auction house competently. It will be needed once it goes back up.
wipe? no thanks!
is the Cryptic guys job to hunt the worms and fix the bugs
No, its in fact our job to hunt the worms (beta...) and Cryptics job to fix the bugs but instead players use this "worms" for their own good as long as they can.
Think they should wipe and potentially give people a token to restore a characters to what ever level bracket i.e. 10 20 .. would fix the economy and no wipe out peoples time completely anyways.
Cryptic is in a tight spot here. The game, and more to the point the cash shop, have been online far too long to even consider a wipe -- unless they see suicide as an acceptable solution. If they credit zen purchases to our accounts or even do a real refund, the damage will be done. Chargebacks will be the order of the day. After all, most people didn't exploit. If everyone gets boned by this equally, fewer people will be willing to come back, and the negative buzz will keep some potential new blood away.
Time might heal that wound but never completely. No one in their right mind would hand over money and time to a company that solves problems with nuclear weapons.
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shadows1313Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 68Arc User
edited May 2013
Why should fair ppl tht spent tons of time on this game improving their chars pay for some lowlife tards tht cheat in the game, abused all possible glitches etc? Simply track down and permaban those tards and take out from game's economy all the currency tht was gotten from glitches/bugs including gear bought with it and such. If they do full wipe i dont think many ppl will be willing to waste another few weeks to lvl again their chars , get they hard earned gear bk and stuff like tht. Plus wht guarantees u have that this wont happen again even if they wipe servers clean? NONE! So wht... ppl waste another few weeks of their lives lvling,getting gear etc till a bunch of tards find another glitch and abuse it again. Thn what?! Oh i know... lets wipe servers again!
Wipe of servers doesnt fix the problem for real.. it just seems like it does. Fixing bugs/glitches found asap and permabanning any ppl tht abused from it even a bit is the solution.
People who have made a fair chunk playing legitimately want a rollback. People who are still poor want a wipe. People who abuse, well, they don't want **** to happen.
Wipe all assets everything, amour,weapons, crafting assets, bags you name it!
Refund all legit paid for with real money ZEN.
Keep levels gained.
Insert a NPC that gives out stock amour and weapons at your level for free that is bound on pickup.
This gets rid of all ill gotten gains without rolling back levels. (keep crafting levels)
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drezsMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 7Arc User
edited May 2013
WIPE!!! Agree about zen refund for PWE accounts.
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coryb77Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
My friends and I only play story content and dungeons so I don't care about some crappy in game economy or exploiters. They don't effect me or stop me from enjoying the game. So I voted something else and that something else is to do nothing.
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xyloctorMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 1Arc User
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To address the character situation, PW could restore all characters to level 1 but then give an xp boost to ease the releveling process, up to the level that the character was at before the wipe.
How do you reset a 5 and 3 day headstart ?
You do realize their goal was to merge everyone to one server right? Opening a new one won't do anything.
Yes it does, merging 3 broken servers into one broken server won't do anything.
Making a new one and giving people the choice of starting again on a fresh one where it hasn't been exploited and ruined is a fix.
Those who don't want a wipe, still get to keep there characters on the other servers (even if its one big one)
It IS a game. Played any real life sport games in your life? Why do you do those? For fun!
I've seen your trollposts on the entire first page but I'll try to give you a decent response.
All the stuff I do in life is because I enjoy them or have to. I suffer if something bad happens while it's not my fault at all. Therefore they make me suffer in this game by giving a complete wipe. I hope you play this game for fun, just like you would any real sportsgame. If a referee makes a really bad call mid-season that destroys all your fun, wouldn't you suffer if you lost all the points you've gained in matches before? You'd basically have to play the entire season again. I do take into consideration that the game is beta and has only been out for 3 weeks, but that does NOT exclude the fact that this should've never happened.
As I said though, I'll wipe, if it's helpfull to create a long-term gaming enviroment.
its still a **** beta, get over it.
you have ****ed up your game so badly - now deal with it.
i say; wipe everything!. start anew and this time do it the right way. learn from your mistakes..
So they still get the benefit over those who didnt.
It's a simple solution that keeps all happy.
is the Cryptic guys job to hunt the worms and fix the bugs
they should make something with the forums.. they move like...
Ban appropriate accounts.
Reinitialize founder pack resources to appropriate unbanned accounts.
Refund all zen purchases with chargebacks and other methods.
Even if they have to shutdown the game for a while, the Neverwinter lovers will return. The exploiters will move on to their next ill-gotten gain. It will make for a much more enjoyable gaming experience.
Paid $60 for the SP, but it would be easy as sin to get back to where I was or better considering I know where to go, what to spec in and how to farm. It's the only solution to this clusterpluck of exploitation.
I also hope they hire some people who can code an auction house competently. It will be needed once it goes back up.
No, its in fact our job to hunt the worms (beta...) and Cryptics job to fix the bugs but instead players use this "worms" for their own good as long as they can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKk4Cq56d1Y
Starship Troopers anyone?
Time might heal that wound but never completely. No one in their right mind would hand over money and time to a company that solves problems with nuclear weapons.
Wipe of servers doesnt fix the problem for real.. it just seems like it does. Fixing bugs/glitches found asap and permabanning any ppl tht abused from it even a bit is the solution.
Refund all legit paid for with real money ZEN.
Keep levels gained.
Insert a NPC that gives out stock amour and weapons at your level for free that is bound on pickup.
This gets rid of all ill gotten gains without rolling back levels. (keep crafting levels)